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PAF Vs IAF Command and Control Systems

Do you mean that the PAF Chief has to/is able to sit at a central console or keyboard and push the buttons to control the air war?
That is an interesting concept.

The IAF Chief does not have to do it, he attends to more important things.
The IAF has five operational commands to command an area which is far larger than PAF has to deal with. They have their AD systems which are interlinked/integrated to each other. At the same time interconnected to the IA's AD systems as well as the CD organisation nation-wide. And there is a team of dedicated AD-tasked staff to carry that out.
Hope that helps answer your query.

PAF follows a concept of centralized control with decentralized execution.

The PAF chief is able to retain control because he has a real time picture of the battle area.

As far as commands are concerned the PAF for it's small size has four commands as compared to India's five. This is because we have very little depth and providing air defence against a potent threat such as IAF is very challenging. Needless to say all regional commanders also enjoy a complete real time air picture of thier areas of responsibilities


The PAF operates in a Common Operating Environment which acts as a force multiplier
 
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Thanks for this very informative post. I like this kinda post rather then india has 47% people under poverty line or pakistan is terror hub.
this article is old but modernizations just started so its fairly gives the picture about status of both air forces. it seems pakistani command and control has more modern radars as compared to india.
i would interested to know about e-jamming resistance of radars. what are the systems which are very prone to jamming and who has better jamming electronics. what is current ability of nato to jam these radars.

Pakistan operates a bewildering variety of radars from varying sources. The most modern units are six TPS-43G 3-D long range radars. These are supplemented by some older American, Chinese and British long-range radars. The TPS-43G is a large E-band system with a 278-mile (447km) range against highlevel targets and a 4MW peak power output, though normal power output is 6.7KW. These radars were acquired as the second-phase of Project CRYSTAL. Two installations operate the FPS-89/100 modified versions of the FPS-6/-20 heightfinding radars supplied under the US Military Assistance Program. These E/F band systems have a range of 217 miles (350km) and a peak power of 4.5MW.

As can be seen from the article PAF operates radars from different countries. These radars gives the PAF Overlapped, Multiband Coverage in all height regimes, making jamming very difficult.

Nevertheless older radars such as MPDR's have less Electronic Counter Counter Measures and hence are more prone to jamming. Newer inductions such as the TPS-77 on the other hand are almost impossible to jam
 
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PAF follows a concept of centralized control with decentralized execution.

The PAF chief is able to retain control because he has a real time picture of the battle area.

As far as commands are concerned the PAF for it's small size has four commands as compared to India's five. This is because we have very little depth and providing air defence against a potent threat such as IAF is very challenging. Needless to say all regional commanders also enjoy a complete real time air picture of thier areas of responsibilities


The PAF operates in a Common Operating Environment which acts as a force multiplier


The above is now an old concept, nowadays there will be a joint stratgic command comprise of land, sea and air which will be co ordinating combained military movements.

In this area, Indian strategy evolves like keeping stand by satellites + launchers ready if the enemy shoot down our satellites.
(As told by DRDO chief in an interview when China showed the capability to shoot down the satellites)
 
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As can be seen from the article PAF operates radars from different countries. These radars gives the PAF Overlapped, Multiband Coverage in all height regimes, making jamming very difficult.

Nevertheless older radars such as MPDR's have less Electronic Counter Counter Measures and hence are more prone to jamming. Newer inductions such as the TPS-77 on the other hand are almost impossible to jam

From wherever you buy Radars, you will get L,S,C,X,K band radars..:cheesy:
 
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^^ How will you Jam a ground based Radar?

In order to jam it, you need to come at least to the range of your system, which can be done thru fighter air crafts, which in turn could not carry jamming equipment of huge radars.

Regards,

A lot of power is not required to jam radars. Infact radar recievers are very sensitive and even small amounts of concentrated energy can disrupt thier performance. The radar transmits in 360 degrees the jammer does not.

There are primarily three types of jammers.

Stand Off Jammers These are high power jammers that jam the target radar from a distance. They are often installed on large platforms such as AEW aircrafts.

Escort Jammers Escort jammers are part of the raid package. Their task is to jam the radars for a short duration in so that it becomes difficult to detect the incomming raid. The jamming power is large enough to protect the raid package for the desired duration.

Self Protection Jammers These are used to protect the aircraft particularly against weapon control tracking radars.
 
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The above is now an old concept, nowadays there will be a joint stratgic command comprise of land, sea and air which will be co ordinating combained military movements.

In this area, Indian strategy evolves like keeping stand by satellites + launchers ready if the enemy shoot down our satellites.
(As told by DRDO chief in an interview when China showed the capability to shoot down the satellites)

Joint Operations is a concept that will still take a lot of time to mature. Especially in our region where there is a lot of branch loyalty. The Air Force must have an independent Automation system at the core level in order to be effective.

Common Operating Environment is not in my opinion an obsolete concept. The challenge is to have a common gui in a system made up of components of different origins. This must first be achieved at the Air Force level before it is taken to the joint services level
 
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This image can't be true! if it is true depiction of Indian Airdefense thn I am surprised to see almost not air defense/SAM systems along China border.
This also shows how much focused Indian Defense extabishment is on Pakistan irrespective of the rhetoric tht their defense is focused on China not Pakistan!

Regarding Radar Systems i think Pakistan needs to update it Radar systems with effective Long Range Radars--PAF should be able to see any jet/missile taking off from as far as Indore/Dehli/Mumbay.

Regarding SAMs I think if Pakistan has FT2000 or other long range SAM with atleast 8 systems will be enough for our needs.

Moreover ADC center only 10 meter deep is not safe!

This has become possible after the induction of SAAB AEW aircrafts
 
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This image can't be true! if it is true depiction of Indian Airdefense thn I am surprised to see almost not air defense/SAM systems along China border.
This also shows how much focused Indian Defense extabishment is on Pakistan irrespective of the rhetoric tht their defense is focused on China not Pakistan!

Regarding Radar Systems i think Pakistan needs to update it Radar systems with effective Long Range Radars--PAF should be able to see any jet/missile taking off from as far as Indore/Dehli/Mumbay.

Regarding SAMs I think if Pakistan has FT2000 or other long range SAM with atleast 8 systems will be enough for our needs.

Moreover ADC center only 10 meter deep is not safe!

This was in 1980, today the latest command and control centers are nuclear proof which also includes faraday cages for EMP protection
 
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IAF kick starts AFNET enabling network centric warfare

NEW DELHI: The IAF got a boost towards becoming a truly network centric air force with Defence Minister A K Antony launching Air Force Network (AFNET), a reliable and robust digital information grid that enables accurate and faster response to enemy threats.

The modern, state-of-the-art AFNET is a fully secure communication network, providing IAF critical link among its command and control centre, sensors such as the Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems and shooters like the fighter jets and missile squadrons.

With the launch of AFNET, IAF became the first among the three services to complete interlinking major installations throughout the country on a high bandwidth network.

Describing the AFNET operationalisation as a "momentous occasion", Antony said the aim of network spectrum policy of the government was two-fold -- growth of teledensity and modernisation of the defence forces' communication systems.

He said the network centric operations' key capabilities were three-fold -- adaptability, availability and inter-operability.

Antony said he was waiting for the day when the Navy and the Army too would launch their networked communication systems thereby acquiring network centric warfare capabilities.

The AFNET will now replace the IAF's old communication network set-up using the tropo-scatter technology of the 1950s and marks the successful clearance of one milestone for release of radio spectrum, a very valuable but finite resource.

IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik said the launch of AFNET was "definitely a historic moment for IAF" as it entered the digital information grid and a "giant stride" towards attaining network centric warfare capability and "an apt indicator" of that capability.

He said the IAF had a compelling need to consistently strive for an information advantage enabled by a robust networking of decision makers, weapon systems and sensors.

"We need to leverage the advantages of networks by translating the information advantage into a decisive fighting tool. AFNET is a potent force multiplier and critical for becoming a network centric aerospace force," he added.

The IAF project is part of the overall mission to network all three services. The mission comes in the backdrop of an Information Technology Roadmap document of the Defence Ministry stipulating automation, simulated training and mandatory computer proficiency in the services.

Telecommunications Minister A Raja, in his address, said robust communication was critical for synergy among forces and for success in future operations.

He said spectrum was an essential component for growth of wireless and mobile telecommunication systems.
 
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IAF kick starts AFNET enabling network centric warfare

NEW DELHI: The IAF got a boost towards becoming a truly network centric air force with Defence Minister A K Antony launching Air Force Network (AFNET), a reliable and robust digital information grid that enables accurate and faster response to enemy threats.

The modern, state-of-the-art AFNET is a fully secure communication network, providing IAF critical link among its command and control centre, sensors such as the Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems and shooters like the fighter jets and missile squadrons.

With the launch of AFNET, IAF became the first among the three services to complete interlinking major installations throughout the country on a high bandwidth network.

Describing the AFNET operationalisation as a "momentous occasion", Antony said the aim of network spectrum policy of the government was two-fold -- growth of teledensity and modernisation of the defence forces' communication systems.

He said the network centric operations' key capabilities were three-fold -- adaptability, availability and inter-operability.

Antony said he was waiting for the day when the Navy and the Army too would launch their networked communication systems thereby acquiring network centric warfare capabilities.

The AFNET will now replace the IAF's old communication network set-up using the tropo-scatter technology of the 1950s and marks the successful clearance of one milestone for release of radio spectrum, a very valuable but finite resource.

IAF Chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik said the launch of AFNET was "definitely a historic moment for IAF" as it entered the digital information grid and a "giant stride" towards attaining network centric warfare capability and "an apt indicator" of that capability.

He said the IAF had a compelling need to consistently strive for an information advantage enabled by a robust networking of decision makers, weapon systems and sensors.

"We need to leverage the advantages of networks by translating the information advantage into a decisive fighting tool. AFNET is a potent force multiplier and critical for becoming a network centric aerospace force," he added.

The IAF project is part of the overall mission to network all three services. The mission comes in the backdrop of an Information Technology Roadmap document of the Defence Ministry stipulating automation, simulated training and mandatory computer proficiency in the services.

Telecommunications Minister A Raja, in his address, said robust communication was critical for synergy among forces and for success in future operations.

He said spectrum was an essential component for growth of wireless and mobile telecommunication systems.

The Air force is always the first in this domain due to very less reaction times. The quote below gives the status of Pakistan Army Automation in 2004 The PAF of course was much more advanced.

The point is that India is still waiting for something which was available in Pakistan in 2004


If there is one area of warefare, where Pakistan Army is making the most effort that is the arena C4I. Without going into details (a lot of them are confindential and hence my info on them is limited) we all know as a fact that the C4I directorate in GHQ is currently headed by a serving Lt. Gen. Till some years back it used to be commanded by a Brig. It is working extensively on implementing C4I doctrine. A comprehensive C4I doctrine was prepared and approved two years back. It calls for high level of automation in communications and control, as well as providing secure and redundant mode of communication for peacetime and war. Networks as PASCOM (Pakistan Army Strategic Comm.), DEFCOM (Defence Comm.), PATCOM (Pakistan Army Tactical Comm.), SATCOM (Satellite Comm.) have all been but into place and are working. Every company of the Pakistan army is connected coomunications wise whether in peace time or during operational deployment to its battalion and divisional headquarters which are inturn connected to the area headquarter.

The doctrine of Battlefield Management System is also set and these days it is put into practice. All the Tanks, Guns, etc are being supplied with GPS which are going to be connected with their tactical headquarters. Additionally, Tactical Radars of Army will also be connected to the radar network of PAF in order to provide low level activity report of enemy AF to PAF for help in CAS.
Posted in a Defence Forum in 2004​
 
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TPS-77 PAF's Best Ground Based Sensor

The TPS-77 is PAF's latest induction. It is an extremely capable sensor which has been fully integrated with PAF's automation system

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Does any one else have any details of PAF or IAF sensors?
 
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According to the US policy framework, the sale of the AN/TPS-77 radars to Pakistan would not affect the basic military balance in the region. India is already in receipt of eight $100 million AN/TPQ-37 FIREFINDER counter battery artillery radars from the US.

This is in addition to a deal of one billion dollars for the purchase of Phalcon radar systems from Israel, giving India strategic advantage and surveillance insights over large parts of Pakistan.

The sale of AN/TPQ FIREFINDER radar systems by the US is said to provide India an increase in counter-battery artillery capability consistent with India's force planning and defence strategy.

The systems being acquired by Pakistan would not offset the regional military balance tilted heavily in favour of India as revealed by the military negotiations for radar systems by the two countries.
DAWN.COM | Archive | Your Source of News on the World Wide Web
 
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According to the US policy framework, the sale of the AN/TPS-77 radars to Pakistan would not affect the basic military balance in the region. India is already in receipt of eight $100 million AN/TPQ-37 FIREFINDER counter battery artillery radars from the US.

This is in addition to a deal of one billion dollars for the purchase of Phalcon radar systems from Israel, giving India strategic advantage and surveillance insights over large parts of Pakistan.

The sale of AN/TPQ FIREFINDER radar systems by the US is said to provide India an increase in counter-battery artillery capability consistent with India's force planning and defence strategy.

The systems being acquired by Pakistan would not offset the regional military balance tilted heavily in favour of India as revealed by the military negotiations for radar systems by the two countries.
DAWN.COM | Archive | Your Source of News on the World Wide Web

How does India Integrate Sensors From different countries? At the Tactical Level are these sensors operated seperately ?
 
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