PAF officers booked in group captain's murder case on court order

[messiach]

Someone from a different source also mentioned the same thing. Musharraf looks to be under the microscope.

The deal in question is the Chinese KJ2000 deal signed during mushraff era...

 

[Fieldmarshal]

The deal in question was for british HMD....for which a huge sum in $ terms was released to a company owned by an ex airmarshal. Such was the urgency shown by the PAF that the state bank was made to make the payment on a weekend when the governor state bank was in Beijing.......n all in advance....n not one HMD was ever delivered n the rest is all history.

The way PAF top brass is running its affairs it certainly does not need any enemies

 

[airmarshal]

Whats going on in PAF? There needs to be investigation. First a cadet was killed by his seniors couple of years back in student ragging gone too far and now this!

 

[MastanKhan]

Some ex-service men have come forward to expose the level of corruption in all branches of armed forces...
The deal in question is the Chinese KJ2000 deal signed during mushraff era...

Hi,

Do you think that awareness created by this board PDF has something to do with it---?

Whats going on in PAF? There needs to be investigation. First a cadet was killed by his seniors couple of years back in student ragging gone too far and now this!

I have told you guys for years---the Paf heirarchy are Traitors---.

 

[saltyashell]

Some people are starting a whispering campaign here to prejudge the guy who died.
If he was corrupt , a court appointed investigation will bring it out. But if he was a whistleblower then expect this enquiry to never see the light of day.
Ofcourse assuming the independence of the judicial system in pakistan , on which i cant really cant commet.

 

[GriffinsRule]

This news story already negates the accounts of other members in this thread on the subject of how he died ... jumping from a window vs death in a cell by hanging. Another reason not to believe word of mouth stories and heresy.
If there are cases where corruption or mismanagement of someone is to be investigated, you dont abduct them and try to beat the confession out of them. Arrest them, give them access to a military lawyer and preset your case with evidence to support the accusation. How is that so hard to understand or implement.
As for people who were going to judge the person from the neighborhood he is from, he might have been from a well to do family for all we know. Seems like us Pakistanis are always subconsciously jealous and hate others that are successful or well to do (not related to this case but an observation of Pakistani society). Our heroes can only be dead ones somehow.

 

[saltyashell]

And making up stories about a dead person who no one here knows or knew , thats just cruel. And if its in aid of preserving the fair name of the pakistani defence establishment , the whole world is aware of its history of toppling civilian governments.
Pakistan under dictators is useful to the world powers , so everyone plays along.
A clean armed forces is in every citizens interest , dont look at short term imagined gains.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

The deal in question was for british HMD....for which a huge sum in $ terms was released to a company owned by an ex airmarshal. Such was the urgency shown by the PAF that the state bank was made to make the payment on a weekend when the governor state bank was in Beijing.......n all in advance....n not one HMD was ever delivered n the rest is all history.

The way PAF top brass is running its affairs it certainly does not need any enemies

Your statement implicates and maligns PAF in a sweeping statement, so I don't agree. The "deal" in question is not just one deal. Your speculation on the HMD has what evidence or reference? There is no record of the UK HMD ever being ordered by the PAF. Just conjecture?

No amount of money is ever released to a company without an equivalent bank guarantee or bond. If there are any advance payments, they are usually 20-30 percent of contract value, and always very secure. Even if there was such a transaction, I am confident PAF must secured its funds at the end of the day.

 

[Raider 21]

Whats going on in PAF? There needs to be investigation. First a cadet was killed by his seniors couple of years back in student ragging gone too far and now this!

Sad. Even something similar happened in the army during Raheel Sharif's tenure as PMA Commandant. Cadet got electrocuted in the swimming pool and body was found after the weekend was over.

 

[Bilal Khan 777]

This news story already negates the accounts of other members in this thread on the subject of how he died ... jumping from a window vs death in a cell by hanging. Another reason not to believe word of mouth stories and heresy.
If there are cases where corruption or mismanagement of someone is to be investigated, you dont abduct them and try to beat the confession out of them. Arrest them, give them access to a military lawyer and preset your case with evidence to support the accusation. How is that so hard to understand or implement.
As for people who were going to judge the person from the neighborhood he is from, he might have been from a well to do family for all we know. Seems like us Pakistanis are always subconsciously jealous and hate others that are successful or well to do (not related to this case but an observation of Pakistani society). Our heroes can only be dead ones somehow.

Do you feel the news story is correct? The wife claims that he called home and advised he was the Officers Mess. How is he abducted? He was obviously under arrest and when faced with the FGCM charges, he took his own life.
Who do you believe? the Official version, or the Wife's claims, who herself was involved in the illegal business enterprise of the Late GC by abetting, supporting, and covering the businesses in which her husband was involved. I not sure you know, but families of PAF Officers are ALSO well aware of the rules and regulations of Service. This is a blatant misuses of a position of power, and mockery of the rule of law.

Living in a posh area seems to be indicator on source of income, however, it may likely be that living in an Air Force compound brings some kind of scrutiny and oversight on your visitors which one avoids by living in a civil area. Unlike others, I am not giving opinion based on speculation but based on statements by the people who knew him best, the boys of GDP 85, his course mates. GC Rizwan (Late) was not from a well to do family, for your information. He came from a lower middle class at best. He was very ambitious person, thats why he chose to break the PAF rules and regulations, and even drag others down this dark hole with him. His first involvement in business was with his "In Laws," who have a construction / general contracting firm. He faced a board of inquiry, in which he he somehow got away. This last event was in a long series of investigations, which perhaps broke the preverbal camel's back.

Hi,

Do you think that awareness created by this board PDF has something to do with it---?



I have told you guys for years---the Paf heirarchy are Traitors---.

Here you go, on your usual crib against the senior lot.

Someone from a different source also mentioned the same thing. Musharraf looks to be under the microscope.

I dont believe this is about KJ2000.

Hi,

What I don't understand is---that once he admitted to his crimes---why was he not kept under suicide watch---. Why was his wife not kept under watch for fear of escaping the country---.

A person is deeply corrupt along with his family---. he cannot simply be corrupt by himself---.

Once that fact is established---the state needs to learn to charge both the parties---the spouses and children as active accomplices in the act---.

The age old technique of inquisition from LAPD---los angeles police dept needs to be used---ie---tell us how you can afford Italian suits---Italian shoes---expensive swiss watches---expensive shirts and ties---expensive night club outings---your sisters new house---your mom and dad's new bungalow---your new sports car.

Explain to us the source of those funds---.

You are correct. His wife seems to be an accomplice to the event. She also left the country soon after her Husband's passing, and now doing this media battle from far distance.

You are also correct in asking this question, what really happened here? This is what we we old lot not able to understand. If there was a charge sheet, why wasn't he properly processed. This maybe sheer negligence on part of law enforcement, or another nefarious agenda on part of the Top decision maker. We may never find out.

 

[saltyashell]

Do you feel the news story is correct? The wife claims that he called home and advised he was the Officers Mess.

Is this the SOP in pakistan army to detain a officer suspect in a officers mess ? Normally armies have a prosecuting arm and a brig.
And the corrupt wife must be really stupid to demand a enquiry in which she would also be implicated.

 

[MastanKhan]

Is this the SOP in pakistan army to detain a officer suspect in a officers mess ? Normally armies have a prosecuting arm and a brig.
And the corrupt wife must be really stupid to demand a enquiry in which she would also be implicated.

Hi,

I guess you have never been kidnapped---hiding from someone for dear life or under extreme duress---.

If you had been---you would know---that to keep the family calm---you may call them and give information contrary to what is happening---.

 

[Armchair]

Ms Khan alleged that her husband was first abducted on May 3 and released on May 7. He told his wife that he was physically and mentally abused before being dropped off at F-11/1.

She alleged that the officers were attempting to coerce him into giving a statement against a former deputy chief of air staff engineering.

On June 23, the FIR added, he was again taken into unofficial custody and escorted to an unknown location where they demanded he record the aforementioned statement. When he did not return home, Ms Khan called Rescue 15 and submitted an application with the Shalimar police station in F-10.

He later returned, and on July 6, 2017, left home in uniform at around 12pm.

The FIR said at 12:05pm a squadron leader came to their home and threatened the family with dire consequences after which Ms Khan called Rescue 15 and registered a complaint against him with the police.

Just a reminder. He was repeatedly taken, beaten, tortured. Then suddenly, he committed "suicide".

 

[MastanKhan]

Here you go, on your usual crib against the senior lot.

Hi,

I was just testing the waters---. I don't think this board has anything to do with how business is done at the HQ in pakistan---.

But I guarantee that if it was an indian website---someone higher up would take notice---.

 

[On the Edge]

Whatever the truth or outcome of the investigation, lets rest assured that its details and its results or lack of it will remain within the boundaries of military, we Pakistanis will not know any of it,

I don't know what is going on there but some members mentioned that living in F-11 shows someone is corrupt, I don't think its necessarily true, there could be many other means of acquiring property, inheritance, in laws, old investments etc