PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

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USAF Viper test pilots have found the Rafale to be extremely capable as well.

Well, the Viper Drivers I stood next to, would disagree. They weren't impressed & neither was I.

It didn't do anything that WoWed me - except the fact that it makes a lotta noise. But so does my neighbors 2003 Camaro.

The F-35, to me it looked like cinderblock in air, but no one questions its capabilities. Just aerial display.

But again, that's just my opinion.

 

[FuturePAF]

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Would be great, especially for the Navy; to protect the SLOCs and help create a bastion along the coast.

I have heard a rumor that the J-10C is not as good as the Rafale, is this true?

Someone correct me if I heard wrong.

There is a lot of data that is classified on both sides, so no one really knows. Pakistan does have experience with the Rafale and I’d assume they tailored the J-10CP to counter it as best as possible. A lot of what was developed for the Rafale has been around for over a decade. Long enough for countermeasures to be developed. IMHO, The J-10CP is comparable kinematically, and the weapons are in a similar class. What we don’t fully know is the capabilities of the electronics on either side, which makes assessing any statement of the relative performance hard to do.

 

[Raider 21]

Well, the Viper Drivers I stood next to, would disagree. They weren't impressed & neither was I.

It didn't do anything that WoWed me - except the fact that it makes a lotta noise. But so does my neighbors 2003 Camaro.

The F-35, to me it looked like cinderblock in air, but no one questions its capabilities. Just aerial display.

But again, that's just my opinion.

The Paris Air Show had its first F-35A display by a LM test pilot, it shut a lot of the skeptics in terms of its maneuverability and performance.

The Rafale demos I recall at Dubai 2005 and 2007 by Dassault were beyond impressive, I have not seen the French AF Rafale demos yet that often perform at the more recent Dubai exhibitions.

Say hi to your neighbour.

Cheers

 

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[MultaniGuy]

Would be great, especially for the Navy; to protect the SLOCs and help create a bastion along the coast.


There is a lot of data that is classified on both sides, so no one really knows. Pakistan does have experience with the Rafale and I’d assume they tailored the J-10CP to counter it as best as possible. A lot of what was developed for the Rafale has been around for over a decade. Long enough for countermeasures to be developed. IMHO, The J-10CP is comparable kinematically, and the weapons are in a similar class. What we don’t fully know is the capabilities of the electronics on either side, which makes assessing any statement of the relative performance hard to do.

Thanks for the update on information. I too have little knowledge when comparing fighter planes.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Would be great, especially for the Navy; to protect the SLOCs and help create a bastion along the coast.


There is a lot of data that is classified on both sides, so no one really knows. Pakistan does have experience with the Rafale and I’d assume they tailored the J-10CP to counter it as best as possible. A lot of what was developed for the Rafale has been around for over a decade. Long enough for countermeasures to be developed. IMHO, The J-10CP is comparable kinematically, and the weapons are in a similar class. What we don’t fully know is the capabilities of the electronics on either side, which makes assessing any statement of the relative performance hard to do.

Pakistan should get J-31 or J-20 if they are for export or if they can be built under license in Pakistan.

We need to have a qualitative advantage over India.

Not just minimum deterrence.

 

[karachidude86]

No they are not. Secondly I don't take information from those whose sources are social media or Haqeeqat TV. I take news from sources which are as reliable as they can get. I am not spreading lies you are. After seeing so many weapons in last one and a half year you are still in denial so nothing would change you. How about you stop being in denial. No I am not making anything happen I just literally try to get these kind of news 24 hours a day. So please lot of weapons are coming and lot more will come including big stuff. But no weapons can bring you out of your denial so stop debating with me please.

INSHA ALLAH

 

[MultaniGuy]

Would be great, especially for the Navy; to protect the SLOCs and help create a bastion along the coast.


There is a lot of data that is classified on both sides, so no one really knows. Pakistan does have experience with the Rafale and I’d assume they tailored the J-10CP to counter it as best as possible. A lot of what was developed for the Rafale has been around for over a decade. Long enough for countermeasures to be developed. IMHO, The J-10CP is comparable kinematically, and the weapons are in a similar class. What we don’t fully know is the capabilities of the electronics on either side, which makes assessing any statement of the relative performance hard to do.

But the best part from buying from China is that never comes with conditions, and plus we are buying from an ally.
Buying equipment from the West always comes with conditions.

So fvck the West.

 

[TheSolution]

But the best part from buying from China is that never comes with conditions

Nothing to back this up, there are definitely conditions...

 

[MultaniGuy]

Nothing to back this up, there are definitely conditions...

And what conditions did J-10Cs for Pakistan come with? There were no conditions I believe, like the West does.

I have heard a rumor that the J-10C is not as good as the Rafale, is this true?

Someone correct me if I heard wrong.

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[Raider 21]

And what conditions did J-10Cs for Pakistan come with? There were no conditions I believe, like the West does.


@Dreamer. , fvck off you Indiot. The J-10C is better than your shitty MiG-29s.

Now shoo.

Any modern fighter acquisition program comes with conditions irrespective of USA, China, Russia, South Korea.....
USA export programs are more documented

 

[Dreamer.]

And what conditions did J-10Cs for Pakistan come with? There were no conditions I believe, like the West does.


@Dreamer. , fvck off you Indiot. The J-10C is better than your shitty MiG-29s.

Now shoo.

Just because I gave a laugh reaction to your stupid post? I am not an indian and your post has been reported for its foul language.

 

[FuturePAF]

Pakistan should get J-31 or J-20 if they are for export or if they can be built under license in Pakistan.

We need to have a qualitative advantage over India.

Not just minimum deterrence.

J-31 still seems like it’s in development, but it looks promising. Budgetary concerns aside, the navy does need a long range twin engine platform to knock out enemy ships (and enemy fighters that try to cover them) and escort patrol aircraft, to prevent encirclement via the sea.

The J-31 also opens up the option for more offensive operations and operating in contested airspace (in an environment where the S-400 changes how operations have to be done)

Two squadrons of J-31 would be a good start, even in their current form.

But the best part from buying from China is that never comes with conditions, and plus we are buying from an ally.
Buying equipment from the West always comes with conditions.

So fvck the West.

There are always strings, but considering the level of trust, they don’t have to spelled out, they are understood.

Besides, key systems (such as datalinks) are changed to prevent inadvertent leaks (such as if a spy gets through screening and tries to transfer any information)

 

[MultaniGuy]

Just because I gave a laugh reaction to your stupid post? I am not an indian and your post has been reported for its foul language.

lol. Sorry, I thought you were an Indian.

J-31 still seems like it’s in development, but it looks promising. Budgetary concerns aside, the navy does need a long range twin engine platform to knock out enemy ships and escort patrol aircraft, to prevent encirclement via the sea.

The J-31 also opens up the option for more offensive operations and operating in contested airspace (in an environment where the S-400 changes how operations have to be done)

Two squadrons of J-31 would be a good start, even in their current form.


There are always strings, but considering the level of trust, they don’t have to spelled out, they are understood.

Besides, key systems (such as datalinks) are changed to prevent inadvertent leaks (such as if a spy gets through screening and tries to transfer any information)

Yes, that is what I meant.

 

[Goritoes]

@PanzerKiel as we know PN has change its dynamics, you think there is a chance them going for a dedicated twin engine long range strike fighter ? Won't name any jets because then people will start going into shenanigan's.