PAF F-16s Do Incorporate DRFM Technology !

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There is a South Korean ECM pod? does anyone know what it is? Thanks

 

[Basel]

I was just thinking generally from the US' PoV. Let's take Pakistan, Turkey and South Korea out, fair, it's still a market of around 600-700 fighters in the Middle East and Asia. So, it's surprising that the US doesn't have any solution for it (via a downgraded F-35 at least). It's a weird omission.

As for the PAF, the only (but remote) possibility is new-build F-16s. If you combine upgrading the existing fleet and add 2 new Block-72 squadrons, the PAF could field 100 additional AESA-equipped fighters in the 2020s plus the 50 JF-17 Block-IIIs. However, we should also keep in mind that PAC's Block-III output for the PAF in 2021-2024 is only 12 planes a year. Sure, exports might eat into the overall capacity (24 a year?), but there might still be room for a larger PAF order in 2021-2024. So, if there are no off-the-shelf fighters, the PAF can crank-up Block-III orders.

You are right, although US have several project from which they can raise low price 5th gen bird, if they don't want to down grade F-35 then why not F-32 downgraded version?

 

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Now, they make you an offer - take 36× F-15E's

NEIN NEIN NEIN, f18 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OVER f15!!

 

[Haris Ali2140]

NEIN NEIN NEIN, f18 SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OVER f15!!

Since we are at it, if they want to give us F-15 ask them to make a growler version for it also.

 

[HRK]

There is a South Korean ECM pod? does anyone know what it is? Thanks

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But I think only contract was signed b/w Pak-Korea but then Korea Terminated the contract in result of 3rd party intervention

 

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But I think only contract was signed b/w Pak-Korea but then Korea Terminated the contract in result of 3rd party intervention

apparently the tech which according to the yanks is pirated from theirs was shared with Pakistan.

Since we are at it, if they want to give us F-15 ask them to make a growler version for it also.

F16 and F18 were born at once and they came about as alternative to the very expensive F15. F16 has become the AK-47 of the skies and then its F18 which has seen major success!

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

So what you're suggesting is stripping down a complete F-35 (JSF) including its Stealth Coating/ low observable technology (LO technology) and fitting it with a General Electric F110 or a Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220.

You also mentioned taking the Electronics from the F-21, but if memory serves they're both the same which sets it apart from the conventional F-16 Block 70/72.

Now, if all that i've understood from the above scenario - the only doubt I have would be the dimensions of the power-plant/engine.

Lockheed Martin has already taken a hit on reducing the price of the F-35 for further orders.

I also get the feeling a number of Customers of the F-35 are now realizing that they may of made a mistake by placing those orders, as requirement of such an Aircraft isn't really needed in those parts.

(If) Lockheed Martin was to pull off such a feat which I do not believe it to be impossible, that very well might be the final nail in the coffin for the further production of the F-16 Block Saga. However, if anything we've seen in the past year alone is the resurrection of the F-16 with orders coming from pretty much every Continent for the Legend, itself.

Q. What kind of price tag do you think LM would market for a stripped down F-35?

The pricing (aircraft plus support package and weapons) would likely be around $150 m (e.g. in the range of the new F-16s) per plane. They can make it that low by reusing the R&D overhead of the F-35, but swap the sensitive stuff with COTS.

The F-21 likely draws only the less sensitive tech of the F-35. I don't think the F-21 has the F-35's sensor fusion, DAS, etc. Seems most of the emphasis is on the HMI/MMI.

 

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According to "Pakistani Defense Market - Attractiveness, Competitive Landscape and Forecasts to 2024" report.

Still we gonna spend 14 billion on arms procurement in 4 yrs and I hope CSF issue will resolve will give another 6 to 8 billion $$$ at the top means about 5 billions procurement every yr next 4 yrs not bad.That's pure Pak money.

 

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Still we gonna spend 14 billion on arms procurement in 4 yrs

really? I guess over 4 years makes sense but still looks like a bid jump.

 

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really? I guess over 4 years makes sense but still looks like a bid jump.

I think total defence budget is 9 billion a yr makes 36 in 4 yrs rest is procurement money.

 

[StormBreaker]

I think total defence budget is 9 billion a yr makes 36 in 4 yrs rest is procurement money.

Even then it is quite less

 

[araz]

Still we gonna spend 14 billion on arms procurement in 4 yrs and I hope CSF issue will resolve will give another 6 to 8 billion $$$ at the top means about 5 billions procurement every yr next 4 yrs not bad.That's pure Pak money.

I dont think this Turkey is coming home to roost. The US is in no mood to support Paklands now when they are sure that we are well and truely in the China camp. They will put their bets on India which is a much better cash cow than the poor Pakistani goat.
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I dont think this Turkey is coming home to roost. The US is in no mood to support Paklands now when they are sure that we are well and truely in the China camp. They will put their bets on India which is a much better cash cow than the poor Pakistani goat.
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The yanks know their history and know the Pakistanis do not forget the past. Their is no way Pakistan would be vital eggs in US basket which would compromise our national security. History also shows during conflict Chinese without conditions supplied weaponry, what type of all was US when things going going (war) they clip our wings. Never Again.

 

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Even then it is quite less

True but for Chinese and Non American platforms its enough. Anything from US will come through CSF

I dont think this Turkey is coming home to roost. The US is in no mood to support Paklands now when they are sure that we are well and truely in the China camp. They will put their bets on India which is a much better cash cow than the poor Pakistani goat.
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Pak diplomacy is working very good so far it's our money if we paly cards right so far we are then very likely this turkey will come home