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The relative performance characteristics of the LCA versus the Lockheed-Martin F-16A/B aircraft operated as the premier frontline fighter by the Pakistani Air Force.

This analysis is based on computationally evaluated performance characteristics models developed by the author of the blog. The aerodynamics and flight data for the two aircraft are obtained from the published sources listed in the references of this article. The LCA aerodynamics data is obtained from the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) publications and the F-16A/B data is extrapolated from public-domain NASA publications on the aerodynamics of the YF-16 prototype.

Assumptions that went into the analysis include the empty weight of the LCA as being 6,500 Kg and that of the F-16A/B as ~8,500 kg. The LCA engine used was General Electric F404-GE-IN20 with a rated output of 54 kN and a rated TSFC of 0.77 lbm/lbf-Hr. Similarly, the engine assumed for the F-16A/B is the F110-GE-100 with a rated output 76 kN and TSFC of 0.763 lbm/lbf-hr. The internal fuel capacity of the LCA is assumed to be 3,034 Liters and the aircraft is assumed to be capable of carrying a centerline external drop tank of 725 Liters as well as one 1,200 Liter drop tanks on pylon stations 1 and 2, respectively. The cruise speed of both aircraft are evaluated for maximum range for each condition.

Whilst the LCA is now available in the air-force single-seat fighter (LCA), two-seat trainer (LCA-T) and navy (LCA-N) versions, the following analysis restricts itself to the single-seat air-force version only citing the lack of available information on the other two variants. However, performance for the other variants can be extrapolated from the single-seat air-force version, on which they are all based.


Aerodynamic comparisons and validations ::

The aerodynamic force coefficient comparison can be summarized in the form of lift-over-drag ratio (L/D) plotted versus lift coefficients (CL) for both the aircraft. The F-16A/B is generally seen to have a slightly higher peak L/D ratio (~11.0) compared with that of the LCA (~9.0) and the peak is attained at a slightly higher CL value of 0.40. The LCA attains this peak at a lower CL value of 0.20. The F-16A/B is generally a heavier aircraft than the LCA and larger in size, which explains why its design is tuned to attain the highest L/D ratio for a higher CL value compared to the much lighter and nimble LCA. The F-16A/B sustained-turn-rate (STR) data is corroborated with the NASA YF-16 flight test data as well. The author generated a series of maximum STR rates for the extrapolated NASA aerodynamic data and has plotted it against the available F-16A/B data for the same Mach number ranges. The comparison is significantly in line with each other, suggesting that the extrapolation models for the YF-16 data to that of the F-16A/B is acceptable for this analysis.


Performance Comparisons ::

The performance of the LCA at 20,000 ft altitude is extracted from the earlier article on its performance. The plot is modified, however, to show the F-16A/B data. The latter aircraft is evaluated for the same equivalent fuel mass as that carried by the LCA when it is armed with a centerline drop-tank and two large pylon drop tanks for a maximum of 6,159 L of fuel. The range attained by the two aircraft are summarized in the form of payload and range plots. The payload is evaluated from 0 to 10,000 kg and is assumed to include the pilot weight and all auxiliary equipment excluding fuel. The vertical axis of the plots is range, measured in kilometers. The combat-radius of the aircraft is considered to be ~40% of the range. For example, a range of 1,000 km corresponds to a combat radius of ~400 km. Plots are provided for the LCA in three conditions: clean (internal fuel only), combat (internal + centerline drop tank) and ferry (internal + centerline drop tank + 2 x wing drop tanks).


The F-16A/B has a generally higher performance engine than that used in the LCA with regard to fuel efficiency. As a result, it attains a higher range (1,930 km at 0 kg payload) versus the LCA (1,553 km at 0 kg payload) under similar conditions. As payload increases the LCA and the F-16A/B maintain this slight difference in range performance at high altitude.

In the horizontal plane STR, the LCA outperforms the F-16A/B at high Mach numbers and the F-16C/D under all Mach number regimes. The nimble LCA can out-turn an F-16A/B at higher Mach numbers and an F-16C/D by a significant margin at lower Mach numbers, which are encountered in a turning fight within visual range. As Mach number increases, the turn rates lower for the F-16 models at a faster rate than that for the LCA with a crossover point at Mach 0.65. At all higher Mach numbers, the difference in turn rates increases substantially once more. The LCA can also pull higher “gee” forces at high Mach numbers than the F-16A/B in the horizontal plane. At high Mach numbers, the F-16 pilot remains at a significant disadvantage in the horizontal plane. Newer “Block” F-16 models only worsen this gap in performance between themselves and the LCA. They are heavier and even less nimble than the early “block” models currently operated by the Pakistani Air Force.


Conclusions ::

The F-16 pilots are advised to stay away from the LCA in the horizontal plane at high Mach numbers. At lower Mach numbers, they can fight the LCA on an equal footing. If they get into a turning fight with an LCA at high Mach numbers, the LCA will win.

Part-II of this analysis will focus on the maneuvers in the vertical plane.

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Horizontal plane of the truck that is
 
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A plane that is barely flyable off the tracks , and not fit to fly in national parade is suppose to offer resistance to well know machine like F16 you got to be kidding me

What is it PROTTTO type one or two in Indian airforce?
 
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I can't find the mentioned plots in the original link. I am skeptical on how the author has done this 'analysis'. The kind of data you need to calculate sustained turn rates is never publicly available. You need drag polars for a sufficient range of Mach numbers which are only reliable if produced from wind tunnel tests. Of course you can do approximations and use models but these can be widly off (I have first hand experience with this).

Also the author hasn't done specific excess power plots (probably because drag data isn't so readily available and for good reason). The F-16 would obliterate the LCA on those.
 
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A plane that is barely flyable off the tracks , and not fit to fly in national parade is suppose to offer resistance to well know machine like F16 you got to be kidding me

What is it PROTTTO type one or two in Indian airforce?
3000+ flights without any crash. :P
It has a naval version too(now a days under flight testing).
As far as republic day is concerned, only twin engine planes were flown.

Let's go on topic, at high speed and horizontal plane,
LCA may have an advantage over F-16. What's that advantage must be discussed for a proper discussion.

A plane that is barely flyable off the tracks , and not fit to fly in national parade is suppose to offer resistance to well know machine like F16 you got to be kidding me

What is it PROTTTO type one or two in Indian airforce?
3000+ flights without any crash. :P
It has a naval version too(now a days under flight testing).
As far as republic day is concerned, only twin engine planes were flown.

Let's go on topic, at high speed and horizontal plane,
LCA may have an advantage over F-16. What's that advantage must be discussed for a proper discussion.
 
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Oh boy another dick measuring thread. Comparing a MCA with LCA and calling it superior so i dont know what to coment after this brilliant comparison. You people havnt even inducted a squadron of LCA so how can you even assess the performance when you dont even have a reall life data from LCA. Please compare it to F16 after it hs flown as many flight hours.
 
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K-8 can handle LCA teja Just arm it up

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1000 plus units in active duty all over world paying customers including Pakistan airforce deal with our K8 before jumping to mirage or F16


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Mirage can take on LCA teja , why compare it to F16
But nowhere near a souped up MiG-21 being sold as FC-1 Xiaolong(except pakistan who calls it JFT).
K-8 can handle LCA teja Just arm it up

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1000 plus units in active duty all over world paying customers including Pakistan airforce deal with our K8 before jumping to mirage or F16


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In that case, Kiran can take over PAF.

You guys have never made a manned aircraft history without joint ventures (in fact not even motorcycle engines) but I can't understand why you guys always forget this on Indian threads. :rolleyes:
 
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