PAF bombing homes in Waziristan is Justified

[Screambowl]

lo bahi... Now you really are reading too much into things. Meray bahi, there is more to KPK than ANP and TTP. Look more towards ISF, and whoever commands respect with the ISF commands the youth vote bank and that is a powerful ally.

World saw what ISF did during last elections. But was not able to beat Nawaz. But next government is IK's that's for sure.

 

[That Guy]

@RescueRanger @Secur @That Guy Why wasting your time on morons? Summum bukmun 'umyun fahum la yarji'u n is what describes these folks for no matter what you throw at them, they will never agree with you. These members argue for the sake of argument for this pacifies their bloated egos.

Fools need to get schooled, major time.

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger @Secur @That Guy Why wasting your time on morons? Summum bukmun 'umyun fahum la yarji'u n is what describes these folks for no matter what you throw at them, they will never agree with you. These members argue for the sake of argument for this pacifies their bloated egos.

I agree with you sir, but the hilarious part is that unlike Captain Popeye who was one Indian i really respected on PDF as he would clearly accept things he knew and things he was ignorant about, these chaps make me laugh, they draw parallels like lines in the sand...

If you want to talk about Waziristan at least read up on the subject before taking up 6 pages of thread space. Na je na!

World saw what ISF did during last elections. But was not able to beat Nawaz. But next government is IK's that's for sure.

You think Nawaz beat the people in D Chowk? Come on man...

 

[That Guy]

some of your own people might disagree on this.

Some of my own people can say 2+2= duck, but that doesn't mean it's true. Facts don't change because a certain group, or a majority believe otherwise.

 

[Screambowl]

@RescueRanger @Secur @That Guy Why wasting your time on morons? Summum bukmun 'umyun fahum la yarji'u n is what describes these folks for no matter what you throw at them, they will never agree with you. These members argue for the sake of argument for this pacifies their bloated egos.

Did you even read what is the discussion all about. Please do read, might give you some knowledge capsules.

 

[ghoul]

Palestinians are not Punjabi or Pathan, I am not Pakistani and don't understand what you're trying to imply....

That Akar Patel's article has literally messed the minds of these weak hindus. He claimed in the article that army is "unsuccessful" against Taliban because it is supposedly made up of Punjabis only who are also supposedly non-martial compared to the Pashtun Taliban(and Indians)... This Punjabi army rhetoric is an old Indian Hindu and Afghan propaganda tactic. But of course, what else can you expect from these passive aggressive banias?

And I reported his post.

 

[ares]

Okay, what would you do in this situation? You're all about criticizing, but have yet to bring any sort of suggestion up.

I find it absolutely hilarious that Indian members kept on criticizing Pakistan for not doing enough in the past to counter the militants in the tribal area, and now that it is, they're "worried about civilian casualties".

The fact is that you're basing your own opinion on nothing, absolutely nothing. Everything you've said is simply an assumption, a thought in your head, a criticism based on one's own personal biases, nothing more.

[Edit]: Also, why are you so obsessed with Pakistan's internal matter? If Pakistanis started commenting about how India is conducting it's anti-naxal operations, you'd probably tell them to f-off and mind their own business.

There are so many suggestion on the table,

Pakistan has been facing insurgency for last few years, where as India has dealt with insurgencies for last thirty years first in Punjab, then Kashmir and NorthEast...nowhere did we use such excess force on our civilian areas.

Karachi too has a persistent Taliban problem, would you recommend aerial and artillery sanitization of Karachi?

Just because these tribal areas, no one cares about and no media is allowed, Pakistan army is able to get away with such heavy handed approach. For no one finds out, who was killed and why.

Intelligence Lead targeted operations are the only way to deal with insurgency in cities, was done in Punjab or are being done in Kashmir and Karachi.

Offcourse, this process is slower and friendly forces suffer more casualties but on the up side, one does not needlessly kill its own civilians.

 

[Shot-Caller]

lets discuss only one subject. Do you disagree that Pakistan army did not support and arm Talibans ?

They did. Let me explain it to you. You bring home a pet, you feed it, you train it to safeguard your home. One day the pet goes mad and starts biting you to kill you. What do you do then?

 

[Screambowl]

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You think Nawaz beat the people in D Chowk? Come on man...

during elections.. Dr. Qadri and IK, both were present at the D chowk with bunch of Non residents but Mia ji formed the government. Well some say elections were rigged. But Broader question is not who wins the elections, the question is who brings the stability. And till military is involved in Politics, stability is away.

 

[RescueRanger]

Karachi too has a persistent Taliban problem, would you recommend aerial and artillery sanitization of Karachi?

So now you are comparing Karachi to Miran Shah! Lol, never had to say this to someone but GTFO guy, you are clueless.

 

[syedali73]

Did you even read what is the discussion all about. Please do read, might give you some knowledge capsules.

I have read from post#1 till the last hence my comments. Please refrain from getting personal and taking cheap shots at others for all they do is expose one's own self and add no more weight to their argument if any. Shoot the post and not the poster.

 

[Screambowl]

Some of my own people can say 2+2= duck, but that doesn't mean it's true. Facts don't change because a certain group, or a majority believe otherwise.

That leads to civil war.

 

[RescueRanger]

And till military is involved in Politics, stability is away.

Military was not involved in Politics this time lalla, you don't know how delicately the army played its role with respect and dignity. Stop sullying the name of our army.

 

[That Guy]

There are so many suggestion on the table,

Pakistan has been facing insurgency for last few years, where as India has dealt with insurgencies for last thirty years first in Punjab, then Kashmir and NorthEast...nowhere did we use such excess force on our civilian areas.

Karachi too has a persistent Taliban problem, would you recommend aerial and artillery sanitization of Karachi?
Just because these tribal areas, no one cares about and no media is allowed, Pakistan army is able to get away with such heavy handed approach. For no one finds out, who was killed and why.

Intelligence Lead targeted operations are the only way to deal with insurgency in cities, was done in Punjab or are being done in Kashmir and Karachi.

Offcourse, this process is slower and friendly forces suffer more casualties but on the up side, one does not needlessly kill its own civilians.

Are you serious, that's your suggestion? Against an enemy that is occupying territory and is going to fight against it? If you believe India never conducted full on assaults against militants, then read about the height of the Kashmir insurgency. Google it, this is public information, I refuse to do your homework for you.

Karachi and Punjab don't have the problem of militants occupying and holding on to land, they're hiding in the shadows. With militants in NWA, they're working quite openly, so there is little need for intel seeking, when your enemy is right in front of you, shooting at you.

It's clear you have no idea how the very basics of COIN-OP works, I would suggest you keep your comments to yourself, lest you sound ignorant of the facts.

While there are probably civilian casualties, I have no doubt that PA is doing it's best to avoid it. The fact that it has opened IDP camps, and is paying for everything from food and water, that is enough evidence that PA does not want civilian casualties at all. If they did, they never would have done so.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

There are so many suggestion on the table,

Pakistan has been facing insurgency for last few years, where as India has dealt with insurgencies for last thirty years first in Punjab, then Kashmir and NorthEast...nowhere did we use such excess force on our civilian areas.

Karachi too has a persistent Taliban problem, would you recommend aerial and artillery sanitization of Karachi?

Just because these tribal areas, no one cares about and no media is allowed, Pakistan army is able to get away with such heavy handed approach. For no one finds out, who was killed and why.

Intelligence Lead targeted operations are the only way to deal with insurgency in cities, was done in Punjab or are being done in Kashmir and Karachi.

Offcourse, this process is slower and friendly forces suffer more casualties but on the up side, one does not needlessly kill its own civilians.

India has not dealt insurgency any where close to this which Pakistan is facing. Indian insurgencies are mainly mild unlike ours. India should thank Pakistan that we have not let hardcore TTP/Taliban fighting groups penetrate into Kashmir else they would had created havoc for your Army. Kashmiri insurgency is low infact for the last few years its next to nothing so Indians should be considered as least experience guys to teach us about the ways to handle such kind of war.