PAF bombing homes in Waziristan is Justified

[ArsalanKhan21]

Its your point of view but I completely disagree with it.

lets discuss only one subject. Do you disagree that Pakistan army did not support and arm Talibans ?

 

[RescueRanger]

Okay I will only say this 1 more time. If any more comparisons are drawn between Israel/Palestine or elsewhere in this thread you will be reported for derailing the thread. And in closing, our country OUR RULES! Don't like it, well then too bad.

What we do in regards to our defense is our sovereign right as a nation and we don't need or appreciate lectures from people who don't even know about the dynamics of the situation or the topic they are discussing.

Dissolve Aien e Pakistan and come under shadow of Modi for more stable Pakistan!

Read my post above, I am respectfully being tolerant of your view and right to express it. But no further nonsense posts please. Extend me the same courtesy I am extending you.

 

[Falcon29]

Hardly confused, for I was quoting from Amnesty international report on 2014 conflict.

"Human rights organizations including Amnesty International,confirmed that in many cases, Palestinians received warnings prior to evacuation, including flyers, phone calls and roof knocking."

You must have forgot the other part:

Israeli forces displayed ‘callous indifference’ in deadly attacks on family homes in Gaza | Amnesty International

“Israeli forces have brazenly flouted the laws of war by carrying out a series of attacks on civilian homes, displaying callous indifference to the carnage caused,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

“The report exposes a pattern of attacks on civilian homes by Israeli forces which have shown a shocking disregard for the lives of Palestinian civilians, who were given no warning and had no chance to flee.”

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You realize Palestinians are under occupation. And their actions are reactions to Israeli actions. I'm not saying Palestinians use military means because they are occuipped. They literally were attacked first.

You are making foolish comparisons. Pakistan's strikes are very limited and target seperatists who committed crimes. Israelis cause 5$ billion in damage just in homes alone and left over 200k displaced. Israeli war doctrine is one that targets civilian infrastructure and causes shock to civilians. We Lebanese and Palestinians understand this well. We don't need an Indian to tell us otherwise.

 

[That Guy]

Dissolve Aien e Pakistan and come under shadow of Modi for more stable Pakistan!

And there we have it. Let this be known, anyone who says there aren't Indians that want to absorb Pakistan, behold and despair.

 

[Screambowl]

Read my post above, I am respectfully being tolerant of your view and right to express it. But no further nonsense posts please. Extend me the same courtesy I am extending you.

Thank you, that was a troll in return of your troll. Anyways, can you certify that all the factions who were once a part of Taliban now fighting in Kashmir will not become headache? Be Honest!

 

[That Guy]

lets discuss only one subject. Do you disagree that Pakistan army did not support and arm Talibans ?

What is your over all point? What are you getting at?

 

[Screambowl]

And there we have it. Let this be known, anyone who says there aren't Indians that want to absorb Pakistan, behold and despair.

And that was something to lighten the atmosphere here

 

[Secur]

I agree Pakistani government must be taking good care of IDPs who left the area, after all they are your own people as compared to Israelis and Palestinians.

However why is there no news on the civilians, who refused to leave the area or were unable to leave?

After all ISPR's claims of zero civilian casualties is absolutely absurd..almost as absurd as the notions that all civilians have been evacuated from these areas , prior to the operation.

You agree that there are no similarities between both now, but you have spent the last five-six posts stubbornly claiming that both are same. Seriously! Its their own fault then, the time was given and facilities were provided, its not possible for us to drag each person out of the conflict zone. If the ones who were "unable to leave" wanted to leave, they could have left easily, the extremists dont exactly want their own families killed, to answer your earlier argument of terrorist's family members.

I dont believe in perfection.

 

[ares]

and to the Injuns, back off!

What ever Pakistan Army is doing - is in her's territory unlike Israel so the comparison is ridiculous

Which is surprising since, one would expect a country would follow a more humane approach to dealing with insurgencies in one's own cities.

Tactics which might yield lesser collateral damage, rather than aerial and artillery bombardment and flattening out the entire city.

 

[That Guy]

And that was something to lighten the atmosphere here

Sure, you can call it whatever you like, that's your right.

 

[RescueRanger]

Thank you, that was a troll in return of your troll. Anyways, can you certify that all the factions who were once a part of Taliban now fighting in Kashmir will not become headache? Be Honest!

I can't certify anything, you think a lowly sub BPS 18 can certify anything. Get real buddy All i know is that these buggers are going to get " buggered" well and truly...!

 

[Screambowl]

I can't certify anything, you think a lowly sub BPS 18 can certify anything. Get real buddy All i know is that these buggers are going to get " buggered" well and truly...!

Then why is that, some factions who fought as Taliban are now fighting in Kashmir, as Harkat ul Ansar and Jaish e Mohammad? Pakistan's government has still not learned the lessons , well may be the government is ready to eliminate them, but Military will say NO. When is the realizing time?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Which is surprising since, one would expect a country would follow a more humane approach to dealing with insurgencies in one's own cities.

Tactics which might yield lesser collateral damage, rather than aerial and artillery bombardment and flattening out the entire city.

Ok genius like what ?

 

[That Guy]

Which is surprising since, one would expect a country would follow a more humane approach to dealing with insurgencies in one's own cities.

Tactics which might yield lesser collateral damage, rather than aerial and artillery bombardment and flattening out the entire city.

Okay, what would you do in this situation? You're all about criticizing, but have yet to bring any sort of suggestion up.

I find it absolutely hilarious that Indian members kept on criticizing Pakistan for not doing enough in the past to counter the militants in the tribal area, and now that it is, they're "worried about civilian casualties".

The fact is that you're basing your own opinion on nothing, absolutely nothing. Everything you've said is simply an assumption, a thought in your head, a criticism based on one's own personal biases, nothing more.

[Edit]: Also, why are you so obsessed with Pakistan's internal matter? If Pakistanis started commenting about how India is conducting it's anti-naxal operations, you'd probably tell them to f-off and mind their own business.

 

[RescueRanger]

Then why is that, some factions who fought as Taliban are now fighting in Kashmir, as Harkat ul Ansar and Jaish e Mohammad? Pakistan's government has still not learned the lessons , well may be the government is ready to eliminate them, but Military will say NO. When is the realizing time?

Bahi Jan, it's not that simple. All I can tell you, from a aam admi point of view, there is change in the air. You can taste it when you speak to people. The rest, you think three decades of programming can be turned off with 1 switch, surely you are not so naive?

BTW this action is not something the Government took lead on, this was demanded by the PEOPLE, the army and government merely acknowledged the need of the people.