PAF bombing homes in Waziristan is Justified

[Screambowl]

I'd be surprised if even 5 percent of them could describe it's rough geographical location.

Lol, you think we are not aware of it's geographical location.. Faction of TTP North Waziristan operates from there only I believe, touching Nuristan in afghanistan ... what code word they were using.. Kaffirstan?

 

[Jungibaaz]

As oppose to common , Entire Gaza is not bombed in one go, individual houses are bombed and most of the time civilian residents are informed of an impending air raid in their vicinity.

But many times some Palestinian civilians refuse to flee, even when they know of an impending air raid.

Is such stubbornness restricted to Palestinians, can it also be found in Pakistani tribal areas ?

Stop being so damn ridiculous.

Gaza as about the size of my front lawn, packed like Hong Kong. In which the Israelis conducted airstrikes and ground ops that killed 2,000. Entire buildings were flattened, a simple Google search will suffice.

And don't kid yourself, you know nothing at all about our war or Afghanistan. It's a most common delusion for Indians to pretend they know. There's only maybe one or two members in this very forum who know a fair bit about our war.

Lol, you think we are not aware of it's geographical location.. Faction of TTP North Waziristan operates from there only I believe, touching Nuristan in afghanistan ... what code word they were using.. Kaffirstan?

You may be, in my many hundreds of encounters with Indian members and discussion of Pakistan's war, I get the most absurd answers. A fellow member showing us so quite well here. But congrats on being in the 5%.

 

[Shot-Caller]

Bhai agar samajh ati hai baat toh theek hai ..

Pakistan wants kashmir -> trained Talibanis in 1980's -> in return they wanted them to fight in Kashmir -> some did go
After 2001 US changed its policies -> Pakistan came under pressure to eliminate all terror groups -> Kashmir ops hurdled
Pakistan starts to eliminate terror -> terrorists starting hitting back

Bhai.. in the end it comes to Kashmir only.. you wanted them to fight in kashmir now you are killing them due to US pressure. Is this your successful policy?

Your analysis is as wrong as a Pathan speaking bihari.

 

[ares]

I'd be surprised if even 5 percent of them could describe it's rough geographical location.



Yeah, you get a small mortar round on your house to let you know that you and neighbourhood are about to be decimated within a minute or two. Compared the PA's months of preparation, setting up of IDP camps, weeding out the bad guys and even rebuilding the place with their own funds.

Don't insult us by comparing our situation with the Israelis.

Obviously you have more empathy for them, after all they are your own countrymen , as compared to Israelis for Palestinian.

Yet the heavy handed approach in with which you handle civilian areas are generally not employed by modern nations against it own cities.

Scorched Earth it is called.

 

[RescueRanger]

After what happened to those little hearts in Peshawar, to the wailing mothers and fathers, the dreams cut short and the light snuffed out.... NEVER AGAIN!
Friends before:

And After:

We know what we are fighting for, we will honor their memories. Our blood is not cheap!

KILL THEM ALL AND LET GOD BE THE JUDGE!

 

[Screambowl]

Your analysis is as wrong as a Pathan speaking bihari.

forget about my analysis, come to the point. Why your policies end up in a failure? Each and every debate I see on geo, ary, or kal tak, it's full of confusion, which is better administration, Military, Democratic Liberal, Sharia, etc etc...Not able to decide yet?

 

[Falcon29]

It's really a sad thing to see our own people go at it. I hope tense feelings can go away and we can reconcilate.

Warnings prior to attacks

2014 Israel–Gaza conflict

In many cases the IDF warned civilians prior to targeting militants in highly populated areas in order to comply with international law.Human rights organizations including Amnesty International, confirmed that in many cases, Palestinians received warnings prior to evacuation, including flyers, phone calls and roof knocking.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as targeting fighters in highly populated areas. What Israel did was literally target families of any government employee or military member in Gaza. Whether such an individual was at home or not. That wasn't purpose of such attacks. Purpose was to terrorize Palestinians and kill whole families. If you want to understand why it be more in-depth discussion. Most fighters in Palestine are in well concealed positions and when time comes for ground combat they hit the Israelis hard. However, bombing raids were targeted largely at civilian infrastructure and specific families. The attacks are war crimes. Many had no warning at all.

 

[Shot-Caller]

forget about my analysis, come to the point. Why your policies end up in a failure? Each and every debate I see on geo, ary, or kal tak, it's full of confusion, which is better administration, Military, Democratic Liberal, Sharia, etc etc...Not able to decide yet?

Our corrupt leadership did make some mistakes in the past and we're making up for those mistakes now.

 

[Secur]

Exactly !! Our own army is killing our own people who needs enemies !

Another of the finest West's well fed and living a good life radical, I presume? Same kind taking welfare money from the infidel secular Govts but cursing them and secretly dreaming of joining the ISIS, AQ and Taliban.

As oppose to common , Entire Gaza is not bombed in one go, individual houses are bombed and most of the time civilian residents are informed of an impending air raid in their vicinity.

But many times some Palestinian civilians refuse to flee, even when they know of an impending air raid.

Is such stubbornness restricted to Palestinians, can it also be found in Pakistani tribal areas ?

Of-course not, its not possible for that to happen, just enough each time to make sure that the citizens of Gaza dont find effective shelter anywhere and their lives be in danger during the whole conflict, unlike the tribals here who have been provided a safe passage before the conflict began. No camps and no escape route were there for the Gazans. This "most of the time warnings before a raid" aren't accepted as true by the International HR groups. Even the UN camps, schools and hospitals were targeted despite clear knowledge of civilians taking refuge there. And for the ones still living in the territory, the utilities were shut off deliberately by indiscriminate bombing, unlike the IDP camps in which people are being taken care of by the Govt and people of Pakistan. One more thing, we didn't put the North Waziristan under a blockade before the start of the operation.

I expect better arguments than absurd nonsensical ones of "physical/mental competitiveness to leave the area" BS I am reading in these posts now. Nothing is perfect, however note that the unlike some, the military of Pakistan doesn't wish or intend to target the innocent civilians, a certain degree of collateral damage is unevitable. Quantum level improvement from the fifty percent of all causalities in Gaza being civilians (and most of them kids) by Israeli Govt's own admission. Still looking for similarities?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Obviously you have more empathy for them, after all they are your own countrymen , as compared to Israelis for Palestinian.

Yet the heavy handed approach in with which you handle civilian areas are generally not employed by modern nations against it own cities.

Scorched Earth it is called.

Who are you kidding here?

Look man, you have Pakistanis schooling you on Pakistan and now you have this fella schooling you on Gaza.
Quit while you've still got something.

It's really a sad thing to see our own people go at it. I hope tense feelings can go away and we can reconcilate.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such thing as targeting fighters in highly populated areas. What Israel did was literally target families of any government employee or military member in Gaza. Whether such an individual was at home or not. That wasn't purpose of such attacks. Purpose was to terrorize Palestinians and kill whole families. If you want to understand why it be more in-depth discussion. Most fighters in Palestine are in well concealed positions and when time comes for ground combat they hit the Israelis hard. However, bombing raids were targeted largely at civilian infrastructure and specific families. The attacks are war crimes. Many had no warning at all.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Our own people?

Pakistan army created Talibans they could have disarmed them taken action against them when they were weak after US invaded Afghanistan. But Pakistan army gave them sanctuaries and protected them. Pakistan army can only kill their own people like East Pakistan and now in Waziristan.

 

[A.M.]

Is someone really comparing Gaza to Waziristan?

There are (or should be) no civilians in Waziristan right now. They were told to move out and into camps before the operation with the opportunity to come back and rebuild after.

Which is a tad different than Gaza where the entire fight is about ' this is my land and I'm not leaving'. Israel is essentially bombing palestinains inch by inch out of that area.

Idiot.

 

[Screambowl]

Our corrupt leadership did make some mistakes in the past and we're making up for those mistakes now.

Beautiful.. and who supported the leaders? When 7% of your parliamentarians are on dual citizenship, how would you expect a good policy? Fascinated about Luton, chicago, paris... catching PIA flight to London.. listening to Junaid Jamshed.. na amrika na japan , only Multan.. it won't do any help or bring any good policy

 

[Falcon29]

Who are you kidding here?

Look man, you have Pakistanis schooling you on Pakistan and now you have this fella schooling you on Gaza.
Quit while you've still got something.

He is confused person. On one hand he says Israel was targeting nearby individuals next thing he says they warned specific families to leave homes(which implies homes were being targeted). I know what I'm talking about. Israel targets homes of families who have members in government, media , police, and resistance organizations of Palestine. Whether individual is low level member or not. All their homes were targeted.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Another of the finest West's well fed and living a good life radical, I presume? Same kind taking welfare money from the infidel secular Govts

So in your analysis I am a radical and collecting welfare!! You are probably very intelligent and self made millionaire!! So can you tell why Pakistan army still supports Talibans ? According to them there are good Talibans and bad Talibans.