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Ousted Prime Minister Imran Khan Arrested: News and Discussion

Is Martial Law/Emergency a real possibility after IK arrest?

  • Yes

    Votes: 145 63.6%
  • No

    Votes: 83 36.4%

  • Total voters
    228
  • Poll closed .
When you buy something according the rules, it become your property and you can do whatever you want.
According to the rules, shouldn't he have paid at least 50% of the market price to buy the gifts? Instead of depositng the gifts and getting them appraised through an independent valuation, he apparently first sold the gifts and then deposited a "commission" with toshakhana. How shameful. Imagine what the dignitary who gave the gift would think of Imran Khan and Pakistan when he finds out his gift has been sold. It is one thing to buy at a discount to keep for personal use , quite another to use state gifts to print money and enrich oneself at the expense of taxpayers. Is this what used to happen in riyasat e medina ? Don't give the excuse that Sharif and Zardari also did the same. They are also corrupt, maybe more than Khan, but their corruption should not be used to normalise Niazi's corruption.
 
According to the rules, shouldn't he have paid at least 50% of the market price to buy the gifts? Instead of depositng the gifts and getting them appraised through an independent valuation, he apparently first sold the gifts and then deposited a "commission" with toshakhana. How shameful. Imagine what the dignitary who gave the gift would think of Imran Khan and Pakistan when he finds out his gift has been sold. It is one thing to buy at a discount to keep for personal use , quite another to use state gifts to print money and enrich oneself at the expense of taxpayers. Is this what used to happen in riyasat e medina ? Don't give the excuse that Sharif and Zardari also did the same. They are also corrupt, maybe more than Khan, but their corruption should not be used to normalise Niazi's corruption.

How is selling something you own corruption pajeet?
 
How is selling something you own corruption pajeet?
Using your official position to buy something for less than its market value is the very definition of corruption. The gifts were not from his relatives or childhood friends but given by foreign dignitaries only because he occupied the position of Prime Minister. There would have been no corruption if he had bought the gifts at values assessed at by an independent evaluator. Instead, he or his agents sold the gifts without ever depositing them in toshakhana and then deposited a fraction of the sales proceeds in the toshakhana.
 
Using your official position to buy something for less than its market value is the very definition of corruption. The gifts were not from his relatives or childhood friends but given by foreign dignitaries only because he occupied the position of Prime Minister. There would have been no corruption if he had bought the gifts at values assessed at by an independent evaluator. Instead, he or his agents sold the gifts without ever depositing them in toshakhana and then deposited a fraction of the sales proceeds in the toshakhana.

1. He didn't use his official position to buy anything. The value was calculated and established by cabinet division that look after toshakhana
2. The gifts can be from anyone. He has right to sell them or destroy them or whatever
3. There is no corruption here

My questions is still the same. How is selling something that IKs owns equals corruption?

Don’t engage with him.

Yeah but he is continuously spewing nonsense on his thread and there is nothing being done about it
 
1. He didn't use his official position to buy anything. The value was calculated and established by cabinet division that look after toshakhana
2. The gifts can be from anyone. He has right to sell them or destroy them or whatever
3. There is no corruption here

My questions is still the same. How is selling something that IKs owns equals corruption?
The official Pakistan government narrative says otherwise. It is possible they are wrong just as it is possible that you are wrong. However, there is a very simple smell test. Was the value at which he sold the gifts substantively equal to what he paid for them ? If not, his profit came at the expense of Pakistani taxpayers and, if that is not corruption, I don't know what is.
 
According to the rules, shouldn't he have paid at least 50% of the market price to buy the gifts? Instead of depositng the gifts and getting them appraised through an independent valuation, he apparently first sold the gifts and then deposited a "commission" with toshakhana. How shameful. Imagine what the dignitary who gave the gift would think of Imran Khan and Pakistan when he finds out his gift has been sold. It is one thing to buy at a discount to keep for personal use , quite another to use state gifts to print money and enrich oneself at the expense of taxpayers. Is this what used to happen in riyasat e medina ? Don't give the excuse that Sharif and Zardari also did the same. They are also corrupt, maybe more than Khan, but their corruption should not be used to normalise Niazi's corruption.

Dear Admin

Here is an Indian troll that has amalgamated 27 negative marks in just over 200 posts (which is a record in itself) attempting to pretend to be interested in Pakistan politics but failing miserably. This retards only interest is to attempt to troll and belittle wherever possible. No interesting in debating or offering a viable concern to Pakistan. Why is he allowed and able to post sh1t on here?

Coming from a nation where corruption and rape are prominent (and thats just in parliament house) this retard ought to smell his own faeces before sticking his snout in others affairs.

On topic.

By no means is without misdameanors or faults - however his wrong doing and corruption is negligible compared to those that compete with him. Sitting in properties paid by Pakistan treasury and having literally billions unaccounted for - working as international terrorists now have nowhere to hide and lashing out. Trying to jail a whole opposition shows you how long they will stoop.

The army - often the poster boy and saviour of Pakistan is now exposed and the awaam wont take their bullsh1t anymore.
As they say - the emperor wheres no clothes and is exposed. ( people are afraid to criticize something or someone because the perceived wisdom of the masses is that the thing or person is good or important) .
 
Dear Admin

Here is an Indian troll that has amalgamated 27 negative marks in just over 200 posts (which is a record in itself) attempting to pretend to be interested in Pakistan politics but failing miserably. This retards only interest is to attempt to troll and belittle wherever possible. No interesting in debating or offering a viable concern to Pakistan. Why is he allowed and able to post sh1t on here?

Coming from a nation where corruption and rape are prominent (and thats just in parliament house) this retard ought to smell his own faeces before sticking his snout in others affairs.

On topic.

By no means is without misdameanors or faults - however his wrong doing and corruption is negligible compared to those that compete with him. Sitting in properties paid by Pakistan treasury and having literally billions unaccounted for - working as international terrorists now have nowhere to hide and lashing out. Trying to jail a whole opposition shows you how long they will stoop.

The army - often the poster boy and saviour of Pakistan is now exposed and the awaam wont take their bullsh1t anymore.
As they say - the emperor wheres no clothes and is exposed. ( people are afraid to criticize something or someone because the perceived wisdom of the masses is that the thing or person is good or important) .
I am not Admin, but your post is the epitome of violation of various forum rules . I hope the admins will take some action. In the meantime, I am putting you on ignore because I have no tolerance for foul language.
 
The official Pakistan government narrative says otherwise. It is possible they are wrong just as it is possible that you are wrong. However, there is a very simple smell test. Was the value at which he sold the gifts substantively equal to what he paid for them ? If not, his profit came at the expense of Pakistani taxpayers and, if that is not corruption, I don't know what is.

The official Pakistani government narrative is nonsense and holds no ground

He sold the gift as per the value set by bureaucrats in cabinet division. If the value was calculated undervalued then those bureaucrats in cabinet divisions are responsible for it

No action against those bureaucrats has been taken by Pakistani government and they are still working in the cabinet division thus confirming the fact that this bogus case was created just to persecute Imran Khan and to malign him
 
1. He didn't use his official position to buy anything. The value was calculated and established by cabinet division that look after toshakhana
2. The gifts can be from anyone. He has right to sell them or destroy them or whatever
3. There is no corruption here

My questions is still the same. How is selling something that IKs owns equals corruption?



Yeah but he is continuously spewing nonsense on his thread and there is nothing being done about it
Report him for trolling and detailing the discussion. Mods will review it
 
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