Operation Swift Retort by Alan Warnes

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

that was 2011

So?
No new radios were delivered between 2011-2018.

lol not more than me

A million times more.

 

[undercover JIX]

So?
No new radios were delivered between 2011-2018.


A million times more.

that is a lie.

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

kid.. hear is low down.. Pakistan is at least 5 to 10 years ahead of India interms of electronic warfare both ECM and ECCM, communication and situational awareness.. I knew this as far as in the late 1980s....

Kid, it's clearly opposite after integration of BNET SDR to IAF aircraft which is world's most advanced comm system and delivery of Global 5000 EW jets to RAW.

now that explains why you lost 2 planes in quick succession

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Kid, it's clearly opposite after integration of BNET SDR to IAF aircraft which is world's most advanced comm system and delivery of Global 5000 EW jets to RAW.

No no, out of this universe and even USA not have these kind of equipment,
JAI SHIRI PAYE

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

And main question is that why your mighty vedic IAF send vintage MIG-21 to intercept PAF F-16/JF-17 and Your mighty RAPTOR OF THE EAST dodging AMRRAM and not for Killing the enemy
JAI SHIRI PAYE

 

[PradoTLC]

Kid, it's clearly opposite after integration of BNET SDR to IAF aircraft which is world's most advanced comm system and delivery of Global 5000 EW jets to RAW.

Good

so no excuses for such a poor showing next time?

.. mean while PAF will do absolutely nothing to counter this...

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

In your head ... sure.

to every one else it is absently clear you lost major aviation assets that day.

It was clear by the way you reacted. if you post messages like "IAF was out gunned " "Rafeles would have made the difference" etc to every one with Half a brain would realise you clearly lost some thing significant that day. A loss of a mig 21 is no big deal.. we destroyed them on the ground in 1965 and in the air in 1971... and in Kargil.

Russian lost a Su-24 to a TuAF F-16 and they didnt even blink.

Indian airforce not only ran away but refused to respond to any provocative action by PAF... you got spooked and unwilling to contest PAF after that. Heck even your hateful , facist government put a lid on "teaching Pakistan a lesson"... or "all options are open".... funny PAF taught you a lesson and India had no option but to buck down.

You see your airforce lied to your people but they don't lie to them selves... they know if they go against PAF they will be either killed or end up like Abilundon......

 

[Basel]

JF-17 Block 1's and 2's have been 'certified' to carry PL-15 AAMs. A shipment of hundreds of PL-15's came in from China days after 27th February. 2019 along with hundreds of SD-10's, PL-5's and A2G stores.

JF-17 Block 3 and JF-17B will employ PL-15 as a standard AAM for decades to come. The news of PL-15 delivery was leaked online by someone to an international magazine (the only reason i'm conceding)

Did PAF upgraded the radar of block-1&2s for PL-15s to be utilized at max as without it its same as SD-10 for PAF??

 

[PradoTLC]

Bro Mig 29? first time someone mentioning MiG 29 involvement in 27/2.

don't worry IAF will crash some Mig29 in the future for us... and the pilot will attribute to the events of 27 Feb

 

[Ultima Thule]

Did PAF upgraded the radar of block-1&2s for PL-15s to be utilized at max as without it its same as SD-10 for PAF??

i think not, 120 km range are enough fore india

 

[Basel]

i think not, 120 km range are enough fore india

PL-15 are not purchased for 120km range they are there to tackle much higher level of EW and advance fighter jets so AESA is must.

 

[diligence]

Kid, it's clearly opposite after integration of BNET SDR to IAF aircraft which is world's most advanced comm system and delivery of Global 5000 EW jets to RAW.

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

Just this silly claim of your shows how empty *** you are. If Bison is an old junk, why the heck IAF sent it, in the first place, face F-16s and JF-17s? The fact is that Bisons had a very crucial role in the whole war fighting strategy of IAF. Indians were confident Bison was capable of taking on F-16. After all, it was heavily upgraded by Israelis and French. And sh!tty Indian claims of Nandu shooting down an F-16 on 27/2 are due to that confidence.
I didn't really know how shameless and disgraced Indians could be. Why you keep making lies on the spot here on PDF?

 

[Ultima Thule]

PL-15 are not purchased for 120km range they are there to tackle much higher level of EW and advance fighter jets so AESA is must.

AESA equipped fighter is not necessary to fire PL-15 any pulse Doppler radar with decent range interface can fire PL-15
KLJ-7V2 has a max range of 135 km detecting/tracking/engaging is nearly impossible to max range, so i refer 120 km is enough range to out range all Indian BVR

 

[Basel]

Just this silly claim of your shows how empty *** you are. If Bison is an old junk, why the heck IAF sent it, in the first place, face F-16s and JF-17s? The fact is that Bisons had a very crucial role in the whole war fighting strategy of IAF. Indians were confident Bison was capable of taking on F-16. After all, it was heavily upgraded by Israelis and French. And sh!tty Indian claims of Nandu shooting down an F-16 on 27/2 are due to that confidence.
I didn't really know how shameless and disgraced Indians could be. Why you keep making lies on the spot here on PDF?

Before 27 Feb many Indians claimed upgraded Bison on par with F-16s and how advance they are now, but what happened to all Israeli EW equipment on MKI, and other aircrafts?? Why those mighty systems didn't work and IAF ran away??

AESA equipped fighter is not necessary to fire PL-15 any pulse Doppler radar with decent range interface can fire PL-15
KLJ-7V2 has a max range of 135 km detecting/tracking/engaging is nearly impossible to max range, so i refer 120 km is enough range to out range all Indian BVR

This not how PAF do things, they will not use long range missile with short range PD radar as in next engagement IAF will come up with better equipment, PAF already have decent number of SD-10As with 110km range which is good for 135km range of radar.

There were rumors that some JFTs are being upgraded with new Chinese low cost AESA radars which is harder to jam or spoof and will allow PL-15 to be utilized to max potential against fighter size targets.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Before 27 Feb many Indians claimed upgraded Bison on par with F-16s and how advance they are now, but what happened to all Israeli EW equipment on MKI, and other aircrafts?? Why those mighty systems didn't work and IAF ran away??



This not how PAF do things, they will not use long range missile with short range PD radar as in next engagement IAF will come up with better equipment, PAF already have decent number of SD-10As with 110km range which is good for 135km range of radar.

There were rumors that some JFTs are being upgraded with new Chinese low cost AESA radars which is harder to jam or spoof and will allow PL-15 to be utilized to max potential against fighter size targets.

You means Air cooled AESA (LFK-601E) and SD-10A will not be fired at its extreme range because there was least chance to get a Chance to KILL by SD-10A BECUASE OF IT WILL HAVE LEAST NEZ ON THAT RANGE (110 KM), TO INCREASE THE ODDS FOR KILLING THE ENEMY IS MOST PROBABLY (80-90 KM)

 

[Liquidmetal]

Kid, it's clearly opposite after integration of BNET SDR to IAF aircraft which is world's most advanced comm system and delivery of Global 5000 EW jets to RAW.

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

loooooool, sticks in your throat that you also lost a SU30 MKI but take some pain killer and swallow hard. Do you remember how you lot announced to the world 2 accidents:

1 Where SU30 personnel in a road crash.
2. A SU30 crashed in Rajastan - the debris carefully placed to make it look like a recent crash.

Now swallow harder.

 

[abdulbarijan]

We lost only one old MiG-21 nothing else.

The same "old" "rusty" Bison, which the Indian fanboys, along with the Indian airforces paraded as "highly upgraded" with Russian & Israeli avionics and weaponry resulting in 9:1 victories against the USAF in the Cope Indias.

You should just shut your little yap at this point because this is getting exhausting .. Consider the following FACTS before responding.

- On the night of 26th all the element of surprise was with the IAF, the casual viewer like I certainly never expected the IAF to get in to our air space and launch a few stand off weapons unto some targets. However after that, we had a director general go on national television declaring that we'll be screwing you soon. Insult to injury, we came in broad day light to deliver on our promise. If the IAF wasn't ready after the enemy practically declares its coming to get it, what is there left to discuss anyways?

- On the 27th of feb, ALL proven losses came from the side of IAF. Be it the Mig-21, be it the Mi-17, be it the six crew members or be it the POW, they shared one thing. All happened to be Indian. The whole claim of IAF getting an F-16 remains unsubstantiated, in fact disputed from foreigners that actually hate Pakistan to their very core. e.g. Christina Fair, not to mention other sources as well.

- Going back to the point I mentioned earlier, the 'old' & 'rusty' Mig-21 bison was the hero of Cope Indias, where claims ranging from 9:1 kill ratios against the USAF F-15 C's and F-16's were made. After that, many of our Indian 'experts', declared how the Mig-21 itself was enough for the PAF. Fast forward we have witnessed countless claims of the superiority of the Indian airforce, the dominance of the SU-30 MKI, the Mirage 2000 and Mig-29 upgrades, the induction of the Tejas etc. Indian members of ours used to say or at least insinuate that IAF could eat PAF alive if it wanted to and yet ... on 27th of Feb, to be frank PAF made IAF it's lil bich. There is no other way of slicing it. When the PM of the same nation goes and plays the game of "what if... what if we had Raphaleee" it really shows how "good" the IAF performed.

-Lastly, the whole feb episode was an Indian provocation. To take your word for it, you were avenging Pulwama, you escalated when you did what you did on the 26th, PAF struck back and we all know what happened on 27th, why was no similar mission carried out by the IAF after it got its rear end handed to it? We de-escalated on a point where we can say with evidence we owned the opposition. You guys de-escalated at a point where more or less everyone except your own propaganda machine says you got owned.

- And the topping on the cake --- The SU-30 MKI patch and the Vir Chakras. Vir Chakras aside, because I can understand the impulse to invent something positive when there isn't any --- but my goodness the SU-30 MKI patch is embarrassing beyond words. Any Sukhoi pilot should be ashamed before putting it on their arm. It says "In defense of the nation" ... the "Avengers" --- and "Amraam dodgers" ... Connect the dots ... In the defense of the Indian nation, the avengers of the IAF's greatest achievement --- that needs to be glorified --- that needs to be celebrated --- is the fact that the MKI's are really good at running away.

My only regret is why you dont post more often. Great post. Personally I would noteven engage these squirming eels. They are doing what they are paid to do. Poor things need money for th
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Been busy teaching online classes ... .. Thank you for the kind words though ... They mean a lot coming from you Araz bhai.