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Operation 021 booed off the screens in Bambino and Capri

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this movie is for different class of people. .. those who want to enjoy those gujjar style movies they are free to watch them

What class and what kind of audiences. You think movie made with 50% English has a class.
 
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Yes it was. Many Pakistanis on this forum itself have said so, not just me. Just because you have poor taste in movies, don't expect everyone to have it.

Right, and we need you to tell us how bad a 8.9 rated movie at IMDB really is!!

Ironically, I can understand your obsession with the movie because of its plot about Indian terrorism activities within Pakistan.
 
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What class and what kind of audiences. You think movie made with 50% English has a class.

why it's again butt hurting you indians ???? common on dude ..you guy have much more thii to cry other than a movie language
 
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Right, and we need you to tell us how bad a 8.9 rated movie at IMDB really is!!

Some of the other 8.9 rated movies on IMDB-- Pulp Fiction, Schindler's List, 12 Angry Men. Was Waar as good as those movies? What does it tell you? I have no problem if you liked the movie, it is a subjective view but don't try to impose your views on others.
 
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I think it will be totally unjust to continue the discussion without any other review - so here is one:
The biggest problem with Operation 021 is the disconnect between the marketing of the film and the actual product. It was a wonderful movie, but not the one we were prepared for. Ignore all of the Waar comparisons you’re going to hear; this film is on a different spectrum entirely.

Sold as an action-thriller, the trailer hinted at a gun toting Shaan defeating evil enemies with the power of one liners. Instead O21 is a surreal meditation on conflicting loyalties.

Contemplative, deliberately paced and often disconcerting, it is a far better film than it appeared to be in its promotion, and therefore requires an audience that is willing to be challenged.

If you don't know what you are in for it's easy to be overwhelmed.

Photo Courtesy - Operation 021 Official Facebook Page
Rather than a prologue and exposition we are dropped right into the action which is hard to follow at first as four different points of view are juxtaposed with each other.

The separate stories of an Afghani government official Dost (Hameed Sheikh), radical revolutionary Abdullah (Ayub Khoso), CIA operative Nathan (Joe Town) and former asset Kashif Siddique (Shaan) eventually converge.

Getting to see what's happening from every angle allows for more context and perspective than if we followed a single protagonist. The daring choice of a fragmented structure as opposed to the usual chronological linear narrative means there is no escalating tension and no real climax. The unfolding of events do not matter as much as the pattern that emerges.

Essentially, O21 is about people who find themselves caught between the twin corruptions of corporate agendas and devious politics centered round Afghan mineral deposits that are accessed through Pakistani routes.

In lesser hands this movie would have been reduced to its plot: Afghan nationalists seek to expose forces that seek to exploit the country’s resources. A microchip with potentially scandalous information becomes the focus of both groups.

Photo Courtesy - Operation 021 Official Facebook Page
But plot is only peripheral here.

The filmmakers have their sights set much higher and add subtlety and nuance to the proceedings. An unending cycle of double crosses makes us question the veracity and motivations of the very characters we want to identify with.

This is not a story about heroics or defeating villains.

It's about the willingness to give up a part of yourself for something bigger.

Kash's self sacrifice cannot be reversed. His patriotism, heroism and compassion all require a lack of ego which turns him into more of a spy and less of a person. As much as he wants to connect to his wife Natasha (Aamina Sheikh) he will always be married to his country first. It is a part of the damage heroes take on to save the world.

Abdullah understands this better than anyone and stopped being a person long ago to become indestructible. You cannot break someone who has turned himself into his mission. Charming in his wildness, he is as untameable as Afghanistan itself.

The CIA operatives are somewhat under written. Nathan's personal motivations seem murky at best.

A well rounded story has villains who are as three dimensional as the protagonists. In contrast Dost slowly transforms from just another cog in the machine to one of the most conflicted and interesting characters whose choices may determine the fate of the country.

Photo Courtesy - Operation 021 Official Facebook Page


The movie is not perfect, but it is beautiful in its ambition.

Grand ideas expressed clumsily will always be better than having nothing to say.

There were some obvious flaws. Some characters and plot lines were not set up, and introducing them in the second half of the film felt contrived.

Choppy editing and several tonal shifts leave evidence of the change in directors from Summer Nicks to Jami. Dialogue was stilted, awkward and distracted from the movie. The one liners seemed forced and designed to be catch phrases.

Photo Courtesy - Operation 021 Official Facebook Page
Luckily the powerful visuals more than compensated for everything else.

Rarely can an impressionistic blast of sound and vision so clearly convey an emotional state of being. The production value is the best I’ve seen in a Pakistani movie to date, and yet O21 isn't a mere technical achievement: it's a heartrending, gorgeously realized story of allegiances and loyalty that wrestles with questions of integrity, justice, and patriotism.

It does not glorify war but depicts it in a gritty realistic, thought provoking way. It's engaging, unflinching and unique in that it dares to tell the dark and intense stories in the shadows.

Overall score: 4/5
Review: Operation 021 – not perfect, but beautiful in ambition - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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Some of the other 8.9 rated movies on IMDB-- Pulp Fiction, Schindler's List, 12 Angry Men. Was Waar as good as those movies? What does it tell you? I have no problem if you liked the movie, it is a subjective view but don't try to impose your views on others.

mostly pakistanis have rated it.
 
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why it's again butt hurting you indians ???? common on dude ..you guy have much more thii to cry other than a movie language

Tell me the reason that makes me butthurt. :sarcastic::sarcastic: I am only replying to grumbling of Pakistani commentators. You make movie in 50% English and rest in urdu with firangi accent and call it a class. Infact, I too feel irritated when someone speak Hindi/Urdu in firangi accent.
 
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mostly pakistanis have rated it.
Obviously!

@Mav3rick I just checked the IMDB rating of Waar. 81.2% people rated in 10. :rofl:

But top 1000 voters rated it 2.2 :lol:

Tells you everything you need to know about the 8.9 IMDB rating. :lol:
 
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Tell me the reason that makes me butthurt. :sarcastic::sarcastic: I am only replying to grumbling of Pakistani commentators. You make movie in 50% English and rest in urdu with firangi accent and call it a class. Infact, I too feel irritated when someone speak Hindi/Urdu in firangi accent.

lolZzz and you are telling me that you are not butt hurt .. common man .. read your post again ..
 
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Obviously!

@Mav3rick I just checked the IMDB rating of Waar. 81.2% people rated in 10. :rofl:

But top 1000 voters rated it 2.2 :lol:

Tells you everything you need to know about the 8.9 IMDB rating. :lol:

Yeah it tells you everything.....how desperate Indians are as they first watch Pakistani movies and then deliberately rate them under par.
 
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Yeah it tells you everything.....how desperate Indians are as they first watch Pakistani movies and then deliberately rate them under par.
lol,he is right,IMDB rating of movie WAAR is 8.9 because Pakistanis have rated it very high.Most of people in the world wouldnt even know that a movie named WAAR was released forget about rating it.

Yes it was. Many Pakistanis on this forum itself have said so, not just me. Just because you have poor taste in movies, don't expect everyone to have it.
I have watched WAAR like for half of an hour.All i have to say is :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
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