Only 24% of Britishers think Islam is compatible with British life.

[livingdead]

most muslims in europe are already european with european values. British muslims are unique that they reject the system they benefit the most from. They do not understand a free society gives them so much. All they are riled up about is, how girls wear their dresses.

But even then, british muslims are no way conservative like subcontinent muslims.

 

[Dubious]

Dislike of Islam is increasing in Britain due to spread of Wahhabism.

DEPENDS on WHICH part of BRITAIN and where you held your survey!

Many in London, Manchester, Liverpool some parts of Northern and Western England, some parts of Wales, many parts of Scotland have a huge diversity of Muslims!

In London, Manchester and Liverpool it is quite common to see a woman with naqaab and no one actually goes over and says I have a problem with you nor does she make the crowd part like Moses made the sea part! In short there is more tolerance than what surveys show hence I always question these surveys.... because they are quite subjective and dependent on where they conducted them, how many people answered honestly and also which age group was surveyed!

In London alone when you ride ANY bus for at least 10 mins, you will have seen AT LEAST 1 or 2 Muslims either boarded or left the bus...No one goes yelling for their life no one distances themselves...

Even when I went to South Sweden, there were enough ladies with head covering to question if S.Sweden is neighboring any Muslim countries?! I went to Denmark though less than Sweden, but there were reasonable numbers! Germany alone has a large group of Muslims, Italy and Spain too.

I mean if surveys are based on walking on a street and asking any random person then...this is how on a random day I saw those places....

So I am not sure why the media gets all hyper about the increase in Muslims?! I mean you left your faith, your choice, they are practicing theirs, their choice isnt that how their law is FREEDOM OF RELIGION?

Now do not jump in drag Muslim countries I can talk about that on another forum...Here UK and the West!

Waht else u expect when something like this happens

Thank you for bringing our attention to isolated cases....They occur in every country from every religion...Please do not start an India Pakistan war here!

 

[Developereo]

@Developereo I personally think Muslim nations should now focus on their own Media agencies with more reach. They have billions of dollars worth of oil and other natural resources. Instead of just investing in weapons, they should also invest in Media.

I never understood why they don't ?

The Western media fights tooth and nail to maintain its domination.

Al Jazeera was immediately portrayed and dismissed as 'Arab propaganda'. China started a media channel aimed at the West but, it too, was immediately neutralized by the Western media as a 'Chinese propaganda' tool. Compared to the polished Western media, these lame, pathetically amateurish, Eastern attempts are a tragedy to behold.

Indian media is probably the only media which, given time, can make inroads in the (English speaking) West.

 

[Dubious]

If you are done with your rant, let me tell you something. This is the very thing about you radical islamists that pisses off non-muslims. Islam arrived in Europe (Spain) so many centuries ag. Still not a single majority west European Islamic country. You guys cry so much about people embracing it, still in N. AMerica islam is a minority religion. The fact is, there are very less people converting to Islam. The population is increasing simply because of the fastest rate of population growth (read reproduction) of Muslims.

Many posters here said how Hinduis,m is dying and what not. Latest PEWs research shows Hindus increased by 2 % over the last decade. We still are more than 1.3 billion people out of 6 billion world population.

Lovely post! Now that you have said your part lets summarize this:

Islam arrived in Europe (Spain) so many centuries

Still not a single majority west European Islamic country.

Were it spread by sword.....THAT would not be the case now would it! Just proves it wasnt because in Italy, Spain and whichever country you take, they still have few of the OLDEST CHURCHES they were not burnt down...WHAT DOES THIS SHOW? TOLERANCE and freedom of religion!

You guys cry so much about people embracing it, still in N. AMerica islam is a minority religion.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...am-compatible-british-life.html#ixzz2JAXVIVeo

Hence, it is safe to say we are not FORCING them were we, it would be growing faster!

I absolutely agree with you!


And for the last bit:

As for the population growth:

The fact is, there are very less people converting to Islam. The population is increasing simply because of the fastest rate of population growth (read reproduction) of Muslims. Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/231755-only-24-britishers-think-islam-compatible-british-life.html#ixzz2JAY4xfPg

World Muslim population doubling, report projects – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

As for converts:
100,000 Islam converts living in UK: White women most keen to embrace Muslim faith | Mail Online

Spiritual Life

The Islamification of Britain: record numbers embrace Muslim faith - Home News - UK - The Independent

| The Australian

 

[Dubious]

And I can go on From research:

Muslim Converts in Prison - SPALEK - 2007 - The Howard Journal of Criminal Justice - Wiley Online Library

http://www.pupr.edu/hkettani/papers/icssh2009europe.pdf

Most British muslims are Pakistanis.

Says the professor in India? They are from everywhere! In fact many are in UK from the times of BRITISH INDIA! Some came to UK during the partitioning looking for better jobs others came right after the partitioning

Then we also have a handful from Arab nations and also from Turkey

 

[Srinivas]

Democracy is a very old concept which predates majority religions, This is a successful and is an apt systemsince there exists lot of differences between various sects, races and cultures..

Any Religion is a conservative one and to some degree a rigid one. For long Religion is the very cause of death and destruction to the humanity. Democracy is one thing that is common to majority in this world, Unlike religion every country helped to make this system evolve.

 

[Dubious]

most muslims in europe are already european with european values. British muslims are unique that they reject the system they benefit the most from. They do not understand a free society gives them so much. All they are riled up about is, how girls wear their dresses.

But even then, british muslims are no way conservative like subcontinent muslims.

How many British Muslims have you met? Another thing I have noticed is that sub continent people will mingle only with sub continent people, hence they only see how much they choose to see...Meaning...not until you see outside your group you will not see the whole picture!

 

[Teeta]

If you are done with your rant, let me tell you something. This is the very thing about you radical islamists that pisses off non-muslims.

I aint no radical Islam. Not by a long shot. So please, stfu.

Islam arrived in Europe (Spain) so many centuries ag. Still not a single majority west European Islamic country.

Uh, there are one or two Muslim Majority countries in the Europe... (Kosovo, Bosnia any hint?)...Anyways, why would Islam need a "Muslim-majority" country in Europe? Europe had its own culture...

Spain, even under Islamic Rule, was never a 'majority-Muslim' state. It was just Islamic Imperialism..like Brits imperialized your nation..but where is the "Christian majority" nation in Subcontinent? hah!

You guys cry so much about people embracing it, still in N. AMerica islam is a minority religion.

Who *you* guys?

Islam is a minority religion in America....so? Surprise? lol...

The fact is, there are very less people converting to Islam.

Doesn't matter. Who cares?

Islam probably gets more "converts" than every other religion (or probably Christianity can compete with it...but that said , Islam and Christianity are only faiths who get hundreds of thousands of "converts" every year...They are the "missionary" or "dawah" faiths...)

The population is increasing simply because of the fastest rate of population growth (read reproduction) of Muslims.

Muslims have alot of sex...

Many posters here said how Hinduis,m is dying and what not. Latest PEWs research shows Hindus increased by 2 % over the last decade. We still are more than 1.3 billion people out of 6 billion world population.

No one is talking about Hinduism here? Hinduism is just a regional religion at best...Anyways, good.

I heard hinduism actually encourages alcohol during some conditions, is it right? Imma convert to hinduism haha!

 

[livingdead]

How many British Muslims have you met? Another thing I have noticed is that sub continent people will mingle only with sub continent people, hence they only see how much they choose to see...Meaning...not until you see outside your group you will not see the whole picture!

I was talking about the people who talk about bringing sharia to uk etc. I have never met them or dont know anybody who agrees with them. Most muslims I met are getting on with their lives, mostly, but not sure how many of them silently support sharia people.
Its a personal opinion, I have no data to prove it is correct.

I have met few somali or french muslims, they tend to be more open than subcontinent ones, but one cannot generalize I agree.

 

[Dubious]

I was talking about the people who talk about bringing sharia to uk etc. I have never met them or dont know anybody who agrees with them. Most muslims I met are getting on with their lives, mostly, but not sure how many of them silently support sharia people.
Its a personal opinion, I have no data to prove it is correct.

I have met few somali or french muslims, they tend to be more open than subcontinent ones, but one cannot generalize I agree.

Honestly speaking I have never met such people either! I am just surprised they seem to pop up in some media or another! If they were that many I am sure I must have bumped into 1 at least!

 

[888jamie888]

They make little attempt to integrate into our society, but instead demand that everyone else changes for them.
If you're going to be like that,no thank you.

 

[Teeta]

@Developereo I personally think Muslim nations should now focus on their own Media agencies with more reach. They have billions of dollars worth of oil and other natural resources. Instead of just investing in weapons, they should also invest in Media.

I never understood why they don't ?

Al Jazeera alone gets more international audience than ALL Chinese+Indian media outlets combined!

Al Jazeera English is rising as THE best English news channel source of the globe...

In 2012 alone, Al Jazeera English won 20 international awards..leaving BBC,CNN,FOX,MNSBC etc far behind.

Al Jazeera just bought Current TV in America, and now, Al Jazeera is coming to the U.S! It will be available in 40 million U.S households...

So I don't know what are you talking about...

Even Hillary Clinton praised Al Jazeera English as compared to U.S media channels ...

 

[Dubious]

They make little attempt to integrate into our society, but instead demand that everyone else changes for them.
If you're going to be like that,no thank you.

Nahh I talk to anyone and everyone who wants to discuss something...I do not change people but show them what change can bring like an advisor but the choice i theirs....

Al Jazeera alone gets more international audience than ALL Chinese+Indian media outlets combined!

Al Jazeera English is rising as THE best English news channel source of the globe...

In 2012 alone, Al Jazeera English won 20 international awards..leaving BBC,CNN,FOX,MNSBC etc far behind.

Al Jazeera just bought Current TV in America, and now, Al Jazeera is coming to the U.S! It will be available in 40 million U.S households...

So I don't know what are you talking about...

Even Hillary Clinton praised Al Jazeera English as compared to U.S media channels ...

This post sounds like some sort of AL JAZEERA advertisement leaflet!

 

[livingdead]

They make little attempt to integrate into our society, but instead demand that everyone else changes for them.
If you're going to be like that,no thank you.

Most muslims are trying hard just to have a good life, some muslims do these sharia things, not majority I think.
I would blame for these.
1. welfare state
2. racism
3. faith based schools

 

[KS]

24% is a huge number imo. Congrats.