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On Religious Hostilities, India Ranked Just Slightly Better Than Syria: Pew Study

oh please. :disagree:

typical clickbaity leftist propaganda, you know it too.

huffingtonpost :rolleyes:

I'm not saying there aren't problems, but just slightly better than Syria :pleasantry: really ? :lol:
Expected response:agree:

Anyways the title is what Pew study states.

Clickbait? Well that is how news houses work, not just "Leftist"
 
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Expected response:agree:

That is what Pew study states.

Clickbait? Well that is news houses work, not just "Leftist"
ok, so give us a few examples and tell us about how bad and discriminatory it's got in your neighbourhood/workplace etc since BJP/Modi came to power at the centre ?

anyone rip your sister's hijab off in the metro, or did someone accuse you of being a terrorist etc ?

the reality is that India is a secular democracy because it is a Hindu majority, and I say that as a 100% non religious person, there are some ultras at the fringes of the right wing, true, but the Modi government isn't out to get muslims or anyone else, nor is there any great evil fascist movement, not in the cities, not in the hinterland. We have the same problems now that we've always had, typical for all poor/3rd world/developing/call them what you will countries.

curious, what part of the country do you live in ?
 
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ok, so give us a few examples and tell us about how bad and discriminatory it's got in your neighbourhood/workplace etc since BJP/Modi came to power at the centre ?

anyone rip your sister's hijab off in the metro, or did someone accuse you of being a terrorist etc ?

the reality is that India is a secular democracy because it is a Hindu majority, and I say that as a 100% non religious person, there are some ultras at the fringes of the right wing, true, but the Modi government isn't out to get muslims or anyone else, nor is there any great evil fascist movement, not in the cities, not in the hinterland. We have the same problems now that we've always had, typical for all poor/3rd world/developing/call them what you will countries.

curious, what part of the country do you live in ?
Dig some threads posted on PDF and you will see how bad and discriminatory it has become in the recent past and how hate mongers are being rewarded with official positions. I don't really have to post individual cases to prove my point.

Stating that India is secular because of Hindu majority is like stating that Turkey is secular because of muslim majority. We had leaders like Ambedkar and Nehru who led India towards secularism like Ataturk led Turkey.

When fringes are awarded by making them head of states, then don't remain fringe anymore.

Yogi Adityanath as UP CM: The fringe goes mainstream - The Hindu

So stop living in a fool's paradise..
 
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Cows are sacred to you only when minorities want to consume it else they litter and rot on our streets. So much for their sacredness.
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Cows are not sacred for me, but she is for many people and surely those people take good care of them.
 
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ok, so give us a few examples and tell us about how bad and discriminatory it's got in your neighbourhood/workplace etc since BJP/Modi came to power at the centre ?

anyone rip your sister's hijab off in the metro, or did someone accuse you of being a terrorist etc ?

the reality is that India is a secular democracy because it is a Hindu majority, and I say that as a 100% non religious person, there are some ultras at the fringes of the right wing, true, but the Modi government isn't out to get muslims or anyone else, nor is there any great evil fascist movement, not in the cities, not in the hinterland. We have the same problems now that we've always had, typical for all poor/3rd world/developing/call them what you will countries.

curious, what part of the country do you live in ?

He has Tipu Sultan in his Avatar ....... what does that tell you ? :P

Funnily enough that image of Tipu Sultan is a Fake. This is what the Real Tipu SUltal looked like :lol:

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We shoul follow US, in US there are no religious restrictions.
A true role model state.
I totally agree with you. But things are not that simple in India. Indian liberals and leftists are hypocrites and they have a reason for it. Its political.
 
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India is democratic thanks to Leaders like Nehru, Abdul Kalam, Ambedkar etc. Please explain what derogatory means and what is derogatory over here.

India is democratic thanks to Nehru? How many votes did he got from pradesh congress committees in 1946?
 
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Dig some threads posted on PDF and you will see how bad and discriminatory it has become in the recent past and how hate mongers are being rewarded with official positions. I don't really have to post individual cases to prove my point.
There is more mainstream media focus on when bad stuff goes down now, and in the age of social media and smartphone cameras etc you have a lot more civvie reporting etc, it is not indicative imho of any "rising intolerance" as the leftists would have us believe.

and not just for here, all over the world you have more youtube/twitter/facebook etc video clips of people being assholes and bigoted drunks and whathavyou...

Stating that India is secular because of Hindu majority is like stating that Turkey is secular because of muslim majority. We had leaders like Ambedkar and Nehru who led India towards secularism like Ataturk led Turkey.
yeah, there's not going to be any Ram Rajya hindu caliphate version here, don't worry about it, don't fearmonger about it, it's not happening.

That's like comparing apples and oranges anyway. Speaking off, though, Mod, it seems, got along quite well with his Turkish strongman counterpart lol, but we digress..

When fringes are awarded by making them head of states, then don't remain fringe anymore.

Yogi Adityanath as UP CM: The fringe goes mainstream - The Hindu
I was a bit surprised at that too but then it turned out that he never said those things (rape the dead etc) anyway, and he was not even on stage when someone did.. it was fake news.

Turns out the good yogi wants sabka vikas, you're fear mongering again.

So stop living in a fool's paradise..
and you are living paranoid like a fool, nobody is out to get you, a 200 million strong (and diverse) "minority"
 
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Well done India, Modi is successful in transforming india in at least one of his core belief agenda of "killing all minorities in india" before 2025

On Religious Hostilities, India Ranked Just Slightly Better Than Syria: Pew Study
Animosity between Hindus and Muslims drove India's poor ranking in 2015.

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India ranked fourth in the world in 2015--after Syria, Nigeria and Iraq--as having the highest social hostilities involving religion, according to research by Pew. India's ranking worsened sharply since 2014, but was better than in previous years.



Pew Research Centre, an independent non-partisan polling and research organisation, has been publishing its annual Global Restrictions on Religion Report since 2009. For the latest report, it used 18 main sources, including US Department of State reports, reports by UN and other multilateral agencies and reports by international non-governmental groups, to compose two indices--the Government Restrictions Index and the Social Hostilities Index. While the former measures government restrictions on the free practice of religion, the latter looks at hostilities between groups around the issue of religion. In 2015, it ranked 198 countries.



The Social Hostilities Index looks at 13 indicators including crimes motivated by religious hatred, mob violence related to religion, communal violence, religion-related terrorist groups, using force to prevent religious groups from operating, the harassment of women for 'violating' religious dress codes and violence over conversion or proselytising. India ranked 'very high' on the index with an index value of 8.7 out of 10, 10 being the worst. Syria ranked at 9.2, Nigeria at 9.1 and Iraq at 8.9.



Katayoun Kishi, the study's lead researcher, told Huffington Post India in an email interview that hostilities between Hindus and Muslims factored into the India's poor ranking. "[O]ne of the indicators in the Social Hostilities Index looks at whether incidents of violence occurred as a result of tensions between religious groups. In India in 2015, there were instances of attacks by Hindus on Muslims due to alleged cow slaughter, rioting after clashes between Hindus and Muslims, and mob violence involving the two groups," she said.



Government restrictions on religion in India are rated as "high" and increased over 2014 but were lower than for previous years. These include government interference in religion practice or proselytising, government hostility to minority religions and government inaction on complaints of discrimination. Government restrictions on religious practice in India were largely directed towards minorities, Ms. Kishi said. "Much of the government restrictions were aimed at non-Hindus in India. For example, the ban on cow slaughter impacted Muslims during Eid al-Adha, and Christians complained about a lack of police action after incidents of religiously-motivated violence towards them," she said.


Globally, government restrictions on religion and social hostilities involving religion increased in 2015 for the first time in three years. "The global rise in social hostilities reflected a number of factors, including increases in mob violence related to religion, individuals being assaulted or displaced due to their faith, and incidents where violence was used to enforce religious norms," Pew said. The increase in government restrictions was linked to a surge in government harassment and use of force against religious groups.


In Europe, hostilities toward Muslims in particular increased considerably. In 2015, 32 countries in Europe experienced social hostilities toward Muslims. Christians and Muslims were harassed in the most countries in 2015, continuing a trend from previous years, owing in part to their highly dispersed populations globally.


Hindus, on the other hand, were harassed in 18 countries, but 99% of Hindus live in those countries. "[T]he vast majority of the world's Hindus (95%) live in India, where harassment of Hindus by both government and social groups was reported in 2015...Coupled with harassment of Hindus in several other countries with considerable Hindu populations, including Nepal, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Sri Lanka, this meant that 1 billion Hindus, or 99% of the world's Hindus, lived in countries where Hindus were harassed in 2015," the report said,



"[L]ower caste Hindus faced impediments to education, jobs and some government services. Crimes against them often went unpunished by authorities, sometimes because the victims did not report the crimes due to fear of retaliation," Kishi said. "When considering social hostilities, Hindus were sometimes the target of hostilities by Muslims as a result of long-standing tensions between the groups (and vice-versa, were sometimes the perpetrators of hostilities). This was not limited to lower caste Hindus," she said.



Both indices, despite registering an increase over 2014, have seen a general downward trend in India since 2007, the first year that Pew published the data for. While India's ranking on the Social Hostilities Index has worsened since 2014, it has been the second worst country in the world on social hostilities involving religion for several past years including 2008-2011.





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So, after Modi's win, muslims and christians (including "seculars" started harassing hindus more and India's ranking fell. Now, that is being used as evidence that hindus are harassing others? Article clearly says hindus are being harassed in India..
 
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There is more mainstream media focus on when bad stuff goes down now, and in the age of social media and smartphone cameras etc you have a lot more civvie reporting etc, it is not indicative imho of any "rising intolerance" as the leftists would have us believe.

and not just for here, all over the world you have more youtube/twitter/facebook etc video clips of people being assholes and bigoted drunks and whathavyou...
Mainstream media's focus was always when such stuff happened, Earlier we heard it from the news reporters, now we are able to see by ourself directly firsthand due to social media. Yes all the reports and studies are wrong;) when it goes against the Sanghi narrative.

yeah, there's not going to be any Ram Rajya hindu caliphate version here, don't worry about it, don't fearmonger about it, it's not happening.
Oh please tell me what version are we going to see? I am eager to know.

That's like comparing apples and oranges anyway. Speaking off, though, Mod, it seems, got along quite well with his Turkish strongman counterpart lol, but we digress..
And how is it comparing apples and oranges? Please explain instead of giving vague statements.

I was a bit surprised at that too but then it turned out that he never said those things (rape the dead etc) anyway, and he was not even on stage when someone did.. it was fake news.

Turns out the good yogi wants sabka vikas, you're fear mongering again.


and you are living paranoid like a fool, nobody is out to get you, a 200 million strong (and diverse) "minority"
LOL he might have not said that himself but he was present in there when this(Rape dead muslim women) was uttered. Didn't he state the following

'If They Kill Even One Hindu, We Will Kill 100!' | Foreign Policy

Even your beloved AnuPM didn't have kind words for Yogi Baba

Anupam Kher had said throw Yogi Adityanath out of BJP

The almost routine attacks on 200 million strong (and diverse) "minority" says a different story. So I ask you again to stop living in a fool's paradise.


Cows are not sacred for me, but she is for many people and surely those people take good care of them.
May be not for you, but if they are so sacred to those(some Hindus), then shouldn't they first take care of their Gau mayyas instead of attacking and killing people since I clearly don't see that happening.

India is democratic thanks to Nehru? How many votes did he got from pradesh congress committees in 1946?
I think I mentioned leaders like Nehru etc, so there are many who supported his stance. Not sure what has votes of pradesh congress committees in 1946 got to do with what I stated.
 
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I think I mentioned leaders like Nehru etc, so there are many who supported his stance. Not sure what has votes of pradesh congress committees in 1946 got to do with what I stated.

Votes have everything to do with a democratic process. How can you start an argument with someone who was chosen after losing in a democratic process.
 
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