OIC Peace Keeping Force for maintaining peace in majority Muslim countries

[Dr. Strangelove]

OIC is actually OH I SEEE!

and then

 

[bdslph]

no body will trust OIC peacekeepers

 

[Doritos11]

How about OIC peacekeepers do some activity in Palestine/Israel.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Well, I would say it depends. Iran is on its way to get nukes. Will Israel be able to successfully eliminate them?

Eventually if Iran gets nukes and delivery mechanism and if Assad can survive til then, the fate will be sealed for Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Can GCC countries afford that scenario? Will Pakistan provide nuke shield to GCC countries? Will Pakistan point its nukes towards Iran if Iran provides nuke shields to Iraq, Lebanon and Asad led Syria?

I think GCC countries have a few years window before that scenario emerging. And something has to be done to settle issues in Iraq (partition with referendum?), Syria (removal of Assad and a democratic functioning state in place), Lebanon (dismantling of Hezbollah).

OICPKF is a way for the GCC countries to bring peace in these countries, yes some countries will not agree, as their factions may lose, but the world will agree to more peace and less fighting and killing.

So what is the problem, countries will not provide soldiers to die? Well, whoever will, will get preference in employment. So that is the incentive and there might some coercive elements present there as well. No soldiers in OICPKF, no jobs.

I am hoping that GCC countries will use whatever leverage they have on OIC member countries, to find a way to stop this killing and bring peace, OICPKF is one possible option. And I think GCC have every motivation to do it.

@Arabian Legend @BLACKEAGLE @al-Hasani @JUBA @Yzd Khalifa @Aslan @Ammad Malik @MuslimConscript @salman108 @chauvunist @BATMAN

See, look at it this way.

If we the muslims were capable of doing that, then why would Allah need to reveal the Mahdi, and why would christ come on around again ?

You see there are things which are business ($$) and which are not business ($$). This topic is later.

 

[Arabian Legend]

See, look at it this way.

If we the muslims were capable of doing that, then why would Allah need to reveal the Mahdi, and why would christ come on around again ?

You see there are things which are business ($$) and which are not business ($$). This topic is later.

I never thought of it that way. ....You

 

[Sinnerman108]

I never thought of it that way. ....You

I am sorry, I really am, I wish we could change things, but there is no changing God's will.

See we keep moving closer, step by step. Damascus was a very important piece, now that has also fallen in place ...

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Egypt is not a country in a conflict yet, that has lost most functions of a state or is considered in a state of civil war or considered a non-functioning state.

Please read the OP. The countries I have stated are: Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Somalia and Mali

Once deployed, OICPKF will fight with anyone that resists it or threatens it.

The question still demands answers? Whom will OIC force fight in Syria/? Whom will it fight in Somalia? In somalia rebels demand strict islamic law, that they are fighting a ligitimate govt. On whom side it will fight?
In Lebanon hizbollah or govt?
in Afghanistan on the side of taliban or govt?

 

[Aslan]

You better read the post that I quoted.Your friend was suggesting that Sunnis in Iraq establish a separate state and I said if he wants it for Iraq, he should want it for other countries too.
Indeed your post was a conspiracy theory, because Iran is sacrificing enough from standing up against west and U.S. It's really funny, SA, Qatar,Kuwait,Bahrain and Jordan are closest U.S allies in region, and you are saying Iran,U.S and Jews are behind the curtains?Give me a good reason not to call it a conspiracy, and a weak one too.

What about Iraq? Are Sunnis being massacred there in large numbers too? Then why did you suggest a separate state in Anbar?Give me a good reason.

You ever wonder why the americans are actually sitting in all these gcc countries, under the disguise of what. Protection from Iran. The boggy man of is used to sell all kinds of weapons to them countries. And still as I said before, both afghanistan and iraq got an iran proxy thanks to uncle sam. Yes conspiracy theory all right.

 

[Aslan]

Ye but ur also funny dude, your calling Iraq and Syria a proxy while Kuwait.. 22 years ago the US had to put the Kuwaiti emir back in power, 15.000 US soldiers still stay in Kuwait to keep it under control.
Can’t you accept the truth ? We show facts, but no.. you prefer to draw an image based on preference and propaganda.

US was not here during the iran iraq war were they now. They only got an excuse to come and sit here first because of sadam, and now iran. Its u who is in denial and thus calling everything a conspiracy. And kindly point to the fact of yours that I missed out on. One more thing, Iwas talking about proxy govs, in Iraq, and Afghanistan..

 

[Serpentine]

You ever wonder why the americans are actually sitting in all these gcc countries, under the disguise of what. Protection from Iran. The boggy man of is used to sell all kinds of weapons to them countries. And still as I said before, both afghanistan and iraq got an iran proxy thanks to uncle sam. Yes conspiracy theory all right.

When a country has good relations with Iran, it's a proxy and banana state, but when it is an enemy of Iran' it's called a true, legitimate and strong nation. Both governments of Iraq and Afghanistan are elected by people, if you have a problem with that, blame people of those country, not Iran.

If U.S is milking the Arab countries and selling them billions of dollars of arms, it's not Iran's problem. Your argument is invalid.

 

[Aslan]

When a country has good relations with Iran, it's a proxy and banana state, but when it is an enemy of Iran' it's called a true, legitimate and strong nation. Both governments of Iraq and Afghanistan are elected by people, if you have a problem with that, blame people of those country, not Iran.

If U.S is milking the Arab countries and selling them billions of dollars of arms, it's not Iran's problem. Your argument is invalid.

I do hope that u know that how ana allowed hamid karzai to come to power. Also I forgot the name of the Iraqi politician heads a political party now, shia by believes, heard him on bbc claiming that noori is in no position tomake any decisions on his own. And does all that is told to him from tehran. That is just one example. We after all are not blind, and unlike u iranians, dont even have a cult following where to us the word of khumenai is the word of god. How many Sunnis have u seen heading to Syria after the fatwas of Jihad from some corners.

 

[Serpentine]

I do hope that u know that how ana allowed hamid karzai to come to power. Also I forgot the name of the Iraqi politician heads a political party now, shia by believes, heard him on bbc claiming that noori is in no position tomake any decisions on his own. And does all that is told to him from tehran. That is just one example. We after all are not blind, and unlike u iranians, dont even have a cult following where to us the word of khumenai is the word of god. How many Sunnis have u seen heading to Syria after the fatwas of Jihad from some corners.

Thanks for the joke buddy, it was funny.

 

[Aslan]

Thanks for the joke buddy, it was funny.

Well I didn't expect u to get the point, a prime example of a brainwashed clueless dude u is.

 

[Serpentine]

Well I didn't expect u to get the point, a prime example of a brainwashed clueless dude u is.

When you have no clue what you are saying, then please don't expect a full answer to an obvious question.
Most of the rebels in Syria are coming from other countries to perform their 'Jihad' duty by fighting 'infidel Assad'.

 

[kalu_miah]

Interesting post as always @kalu_miah allow me to disagree with you on one thing and that is Iran. One rotten apple spoils the whole basket. In fact Iran should be expelled from the OIC as a whole. I will elaborate on that if you insist.

Also, establishing this idea requires self reliance on all levels especially military industry, arms manufacturing, and technological development. From a political prospective, the creation of the OICPKF might lead to some tension with the non Muslim world and that should be taken into account.

speaking of the economy, I think we have the advantages..

Iran can be expelled from OIC if there is a consensus on this issue among members. I don't think it will be difficult to achieve after the sectarian track record in post-Saddam Iraq and the current Syrian conflict. But after peace is established and Iran has stopped funding terror in Syria, Iran can be invited as observer, to provide more legitimacy to OIC and OICPKF as a more neutral arbiter of peace and justice that is not afraid to be open about its operations and policies.

I think self reliance is not a precondition, as we can rely on purchased arms and weaponry for now. If Chinese and Russians do not provide supply, they will loose this business to Western supply sources.

As for tension with non-Muslim world, India will not like it, seeing Muslims getting united and getting something done, as they are even allergic to the word "Muslim world". But they will not make a great fuss over it as they are dependent on GCC economies for remittance and for oil. China is not going to like it, as it will go against their pro-Asad stand in Syria, but they will not make it a big issue either, as they are also dependent on GCC oil. Russia will make the greatest fuss as they are not dependent on GCC much, but none of the large Muslim countries are dependent on Russia as much either, except for some weapons purchases, a large weapons market and income the Russians would hate to loose, regardless of what happens in Syria. Most importantly USA and West will not object to it and will be neutral to it, as they will see it simply as Muslims getting together and solving their own problems by themselves and perhaps giving a beating to Iran and its proxies, so they even might think of this positively. They will think about long term consequence and precedence it sets, but the immediate concern in Syria and Iran will trump any long term concerns of Muslims getting united and solving their own problems.

The economy is the key part. We cannot force and strong arm Turkey to provide a large force, may be they will provide only technical expertise and logistical help, but the bulk of the forces has to come from poorer countries that are dependent on migrant labor remittances on GCC countries. These are Egypt, Indonesia, Pakistan, Yemen, Sudan and Bangladesh.

Here is a description of UN Peace Keeping force, about 100,000 personnel and a budget of $7.3 billion:
United Nations peacekeeping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

UNPKF have very high salary, I think OICPKF can get away with lesser salary, but there has to be more death benefit to families, due to higher risk of death.

The 10 main troop-contributing countries to UN peacekeeping operations as of October 2011 were Bangladesh (10,498), Pakistan (9,333), India (8,093), Nigeria (5,662), Ethiopia (5,233), Nepal (4,454), Egypt (4,116), Jordan (4,008), Rwanda (3,670), Ghana (2,995).[13]

Now lets look at migrant population in KSA:
Foreign workers in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In 2007, the United Nations broke down the country's foreign population as follows: Indian: 1.3 million, Pakistani: 900,000, Egyptian: 900,000, Yemeni: 800,000, Bangladeshi: 500,000, Filipino: 500,000, Jordanian/Palestinian: 260,000, Indonesian: 250,000, Sri Lankan: 350,000, Sudanese: 250,000, Syrian: 100,000 and Turkish: 100,000.[15] In 2007 there were around 100,000 Westerners in Saudi Arabia.[16]

This is old 2007 data, I am sure it has changed a lot, but it still gives a general idea.

These countries get significant benefits from this employment from KSA and other GCC countries. What I am proposing is that GCC govt.'s give positive employment incentive to countries that will come forward to contribute heavily in OICPKF. Here is a possible composition of the initial forces from regular armed forces:

with UNPKF experience:
Pakistan: 10,000
Egypt: 10,000
Bangladesh: 10,000
Jordan: 3,000

no UNPKF experience:
Indonesia: 10,000
Yemen: 10,000
Sudan: 10,000
Turkey: 1,000

All of the above countries are OIC members and majority Muslim and have a stake in GCC economy, because of migrant labor remittances and some have extensive decades long UNPKF experience who can lead to create a very similar OICPKF force.

The above example gives us a force of about 64,000, that may or may not be enough for initial deployment in Syria. Its just an example. The force numbers can be doubled or tripled if it is deemed necessary for initial deployment and then reduced, when peace is established.