OIC Peace Keeping Force for maintaining peace in majority Muslim countries

[kalu_miah]

Partition ? you guys never learn, Syria is more in danger then Iraq yet we keep hearing the joe biden idea being repeated.

Suppose population in Anbar decide to secede in a referendum and Kurds do the same in the North, what legal basis then you will have to keep the country united? It is what people want that should take precedence. If they do not feel safe living with some people because of their actions, then you should not blame people like me or others to mention it as a way to stop the fighting and bring peace.

 

[Doritos11]

Suppose population in Anbar decide to secede in a referendum and Kurds do the same in the North, what legal basis then you will have to keep the country united? It is what people want that should take precedence. If they do not feel safe living with some people because of their actions, then you should not blame people like me or others to mention it as a way to stop the fighting and bring peace.

Well this is the major issue here... people talk about Anbar as if its the stronghold of the Sunnis, all because of the size while its population is small. Sunnis have not asked for it, neither is it their plan. Besides forget Anbar, its a large province with a few cities on the Euphrates, the rest is unpopulated desert.
Kurds cannot go independent unless they plan to put their economic dependence in the hands of Turkey.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Well, I would say it depends. Iran is on its way to get nukes. Will Israel be able to successfully eliminate them?

Eventually if Iran gets nukes and delivery mechanism and if Assad can survive til then, the fate will be sealed for Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Can GCC countries afford that scenario? Will Pakistan provide nuke shield to GCC countries? Will Pakistan point its nukes towards Iran if Iran provides nuke shields to Iraq, Lebanon and Asad led Syria?

I think GCC countries have a few years window before that scenario emerging. And something has to be done to settle issues in Iraq (partition with referendum?), Syria (removal of Assad and a democratic functioning state in place), Lebanon (dismantling of Hezbollah).

OICPKF is a way for the GCC countries to bring peace in these countries, yes some countries will not agree, as their factions may lose, but the world will agree to more peace and less fighting and killing.

So what is the problem, countries will not provide soldiers to die? Well, whoever will, will get preference in employment. So that is the incentive and there might some coercive elements present there as well. No soldiers in OICPKF, no jobs.

I am hoping that GCC countries will use whatever leverage they have on OIC member countries, to find a way to stop this killing and bring peace, OICPKF is one possible option. And I think GCC have every motivation to do it.

@Arabian Legend @BLACKEAGLE @al-Hasani @JUBA @Yzd Khalifa @Aslan @Ammad Malik @MuslimConscript @salman108 @chauvunist @BATMAN

Dear sir,
Saudi Arabia has been trying to get OIC member states together, and alleviate the tension among them, the last attempt was by the custodian of the two holy mosques through an invitation to OIC conference in Makkah and his generous donation to build a headquarter for it, as well as his support to Muslim causes, but that was greatly curbed by Iranian regime terror acts and plots in Muslim states. This country should be expelled if you ask me, and we shouldn't show it's people and regime anything that we share with them, nothing. And when they lose hope after being outcasted and isolated, they will lose hope one day.

 

[kalu_miah]

Well this is the major issue here... people talk about Anbar as if its the stronghold of the Sunnis, all because of the size while its population is small. Sunnis have not asked for it, neither is it their plan. Besides forget Anbar, its a large province with a few cities on the Euphrates, the rest is unpopulated desert.
Kurds cannot go independent unless they plan to put their economic dependence in the hands of Turkey.

I do not know the details like you do, whatever the Sunni area is, if it is not Anbar. If there is partition, then all 3 states will be dependent on someone else:

- the Shia part of Iraq on Iran
- the Sunni part on Syria and greater GCC
- the Kurdish part on Turkey

Dear sir,
Saudi Arabia has been trying to get OIC member states together, and alleviate the tension among them, the last attempt was by the custodian of the two holy mosques through an invitation to OIC conference in Makkah and his generous donation to build a headquarter for it, as well as his support to Muslim causes, but that was greatly curbed by Iranian regime terror acts and plots in Muslim states. This country should be expelled if you ask me, and we shouldn't show it's people and regime anything that we share with them, nothing. And when they lose hope after being outcasted and isolated, they will lose hope one day.

If Iran is the main problem and obstacle, why not take a vote and kick them out. If the rest of the members agree, then this should not be a problem.

 

[Doritos11]

I do not know the details like you do, whatever the Sunni area is, if it is not Anbar. If there is partition, then all 3 states will be dependent on someone else:

- the Shia part of Iraq on Iran
- the Sunni part on Syria and greater GCC
- the Kurdish part on Turkey

Or they would be annexed, though ^^ unlikely.

 

[kalu_miah]

Or they would be annexed, though ^^ unlikely.

Annexation will not happen in my opinion, I think they will remain as vassal states and then become part of greater regional unions, when they emerge, like states in EU.

 

[Doritos11]

Annexation will not happen in my opinion, I think they will remain as vassal states and then become part of greater regional unions, when they emerge, like states in EU.

Whatever possiblities there are, it depends on the military strength, the stronger the lesser the chance.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

If Iran is the main problem and obstacle, why not take a vote and kick them out. If the rest of the members agree, then this should not be a problem.

It should be. Ever-since Komaini revolution in 1979, we have seen nothing from Iran except plots, designs, blood baths, terrorism and sedition in the name of Islam against Muslims and Muslim countries, that revolution has been a curse on Islam and Muslims. We have seen enough from them, so we know them very well. I hope other Muslim states don't go through the same experience although few have been spared, lucky they are.

 

[kalu_miah]

Whatever possiblities there are, it depends on the military strength, the stronger the lesser the chance.

I agree, the US has withdrawn, now it depends on whichever side has greater force to enforce their version of peace. The Iranian version of peace of maintaining the existing status quo in these 3 countries (Iraq, Syria and Lebanon) will not last in my opinion, because the opposing side though disorganized now, is potentially far stronger. OICPKF idea is a way to transition to a more durable peace, that is acceptable to all sides.

 

[Doritos11]

I agree, the US has withdrawn, now it depends on whichever side has greater force to enforce their version of peace. The Iranian version of peace of maintaining the existing status quo in these 3 countries (Iraq, Syria and Lebanon) will not last in my opinion, because the opposing side though disorganized now, is potentially far stronger. OICPKF idea is a way to transition to a more durable peace, that is acceptable to all sides.

Iraq imports more from Turkey then from Iran, and that is KRG excluded. On the other hand Iraq and the UAE have good economic relations.
So this entire story of Iraq being a client state of Iran is based on what ? its already proven wrong by the economic facts.
I do not know about Syria, Hezbollah however needs Iran to survive, though Irq does not need them for any field, not in the past neither as of today.

2nd we should stay neutral and uninvolved in this, we are in the middle between these countries, nevertheless all they need to focus on is build the defence forces to keep others from interfence and influence in the country.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

OIC is a dead organization, Saudis are simply not interested in running it.

OICPKF is an old idea, but it wont materialize.

Sorry man, NOT before KSA annex

 

[Kompromat]

Sorry man, NOT before KSA annex

But seriously man, you guys have the HQ of the 2nd largest organization in the world. Its record stinks, it doesn't even speak now a days. Its a dead meat!

 

[Aslan]

Well, I would say it depends. Iran is on its way to get nukes. Will Israel be able to successfully eliminate them?

Eventually if Iran gets nukes and delivery mechanism and if Assad can survive til then, the fate will be sealed for Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Can GCC countries afford that scenario? Will Pakistan provide nuke shield to GCC countries? Will Pakistan point its nukes towards Iran if Iran provides nuke shields to Iraq, Lebanon and Asad led Syria?

I think GCC countries have a few years window before that scenario emerging. And something has to be done to settle issues in Iraq (partition with referendum?), Syria (removal of Assad and a democratic functioning state in place), Lebanon (dismantling of Hezbollah).

OICPKF is a way for the GCC countries to bring peace in these countries, yes some countries will not agree, as their factions may lose, but the world will agree to more peace and less fighting and killing.

So what is the problem, countries will not provide soldiers to die? Well, whoever will, will get preference in employment. So that is the incentive and there might some coercive elements present there as well. No soldiers in OICPKF, no jobs.

I am hoping that GCC countries will use whatever leverage they have on OIC member countries, to find a way to stop this killing and bring peace, OICPKF is one possible option. And I think GCC have every motivation to do it.

@Arabian Legend @BLACKEAGLE @al-Hasani @JUBA @Yzd Khalifa @Aslan @Ammad Malik @MuslimConscript @salman108 @chauvunist @BATMAN

I sometimes get the feeling that the iranians and the americans+jews are working on the same policy. We r going to bomb iran they say, and an iran proxy gov takes the capital of not one but 2 countries, and that too under americas supervision.

 

[Serpentine]

Eventually if Iran gets nukes and delivery mechanism and if Assad can survive til then, the fate will be sealed for Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Can GCC countries afford that scenario? Will Pakistan provide nuke shield to GCC countries? Will Pakistan point its nukes towards Iran if Iran provides nuke shields to Iraq, Lebanon and Asad led Syria?

I think GCC countries have a few years window before that scenario emerging. And something has to be done to settle issues in Iraq (partition with referendum?), Syria (removal of Assad and a democratic functioning state in place), Lebanon (dismantling of Hezbollah).

OICPKF is a way for the GCC countries to bring peace in these countries, yes some countries will not agree, as their factions may lose, but the world will agree to more peace and less fighting and killing.

So much for neutrality

When the OP of this thread doesn't like Shias and at the same time suggests a solution for 'peacekeeping' in Muslim countries well no offense, but it's more like a joke. Why don't you suggest this 'peacekeeping' forces also launch hit and run attacks on Shias? It will indeed empower the peace.

OIC is a joke, and it's function is as useful as the 'Democratic People's Republic' in North Korea.

Suppose population in Anbar decide to secede in a referendum and Kurds do the same in the North, what legal basis then you will have to keep the country united? It is what people want that should take precedence. If they do not feel safe living with some people because of their actions, then you should not blame people like me or others to mention it as a way to stop the fighting and bring peace.

Would you say the same about Shias in Saudi Arabia or Alawites and Christians in Syria (in case Assad falls), or Shias Kuwait? Believe me, they will be more than happy with a separate state.

I sometimes get the feeling that the iranians and the americans+jews are working on the same policy. We r going to bomb iran they say, and an iran proxy gov takes the capital of not one but 2 countries, and that too under americas supervision.

 

[Aslan]

So much for neutrality

When the OP of this thread doesn't like Shias and at the same time suggests a solution for 'peacekeeping' in Muslim countries well no offense, but it's more like a joke. Why don't you suggest this 'peacekeeping' forces also launch hit and run attacks on Shias? It will indeed empower the peace.

OIC is a joke, and it's function is a useful as the 'Democratic People's Republic' in North Korea.



Would you say the same about Shias in Saudi Arabia or Alawites and Christians in Syria (in case Assad falls), or Shias Kuwait? Believe me, they will be more than happy with a separate state.

Nice one u iranians have learned from ur american friends, if u can't argue start calling it a conspiracy. Who made u the mod anyways. And for the shias of kuwait getting a separate state, u iranians are funny. After all of this u still want the Sunnis to believe that u r not busy steering up violence on ethnic lines by using ur proxies in the Muslim countries.