Officials: 46 migrants found dead inside 18-wheeler in San Antonio, 3 in custody

[Dalit]

And just how is this a concern for who is not a US taxpayer, like you?

Our money, our choices.

Your leaders don't even hide how they initiate regime change in sovereign nations. The Americans are indeed the worst of the worst. Your country also illegally occupies sovereign nations and kills scores of innocent people. For Ukraine you shed tears.

 

[mili]

LOL! Maybe you should alert the Chinese government of your newly created "facts" since that is not what they say

Here it is out of their own mouths:

系统维护_中华人民共和国外交部

www.mfa.gov.cn

Article 9 Any Chinese national who has settled abroad and who has been naturalized as a foreign national or has acquired foreign nationality of his own free will shall automatically lose Chinese nationality.

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630,000 Chinese nationals threw their Chinese nationality away just like an old pair of worthless dirty shoes.

lol, of course China has the strictest rules with their citizenship. Chinese citizhenship is not given out like freebies like usa's.

How would China know if someone has taken usa passport ? u mean cia happily share their data with China ? lol

usa know few will take their usa passport if they're required to give up their original.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

How would China know if someone has taken usa passport ? u mean cia happily share their data with China ? lol

True, China is backwards so when we electronically send them the list of Chinese nationals who become US citizens every quarter (as they have requested) it may fall off the oxen cart the Chinese government official who receives it uses to forward that info to the proper office in Beijing.

I can definitely see that happening and a big incompetence loophole Chinese nationals are counting on exploiting as the dirt roads between Chinese offices are notoriously bumpy, prone to flood washouts, and filled with vagabond thieves on horseback constantly disrupting communications.

 

[mili]

True, China is backwards so when we electronically send them the list of Chinese nationals who become US citizens every quarter (as they have requested) it may fall off the oxen cart the Chinese government official who receives it uses to forward that info to the proper office in Beijing.

I can definitely see that happening and a big incompetence loophole Chinese nationals are counting on exploiting as the dirt roads between offices are notoriously bumpy and filled with thieves on horseback disrupting communications.

lol, I'm sure IRS also send their data, especially those of usa politicians, to China every quarter.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

lol, I'm sure IRS also send their data, especially those of usa politicians, to China every quarter.

They do but the Chinese abacuses don't usually have enough digits to convert USD to Yuan so it is basically useless.

 

[jhungary]

lol, of course China has the strictest rules with their citizenship. Chinese citizhenship is not given out like freebies like usa's.

How would China know if someone has taken usa passport ? u mean cia happily share their data with China ? lol

usa know few will take their usa passport if they're required to give up their original.

Yes, US government will tell the Chinese

You do know the you need to pass a character test to become a US Citizens, in doing so, you will alert the Chinese internal security (or Ministry of State Security) that will state that someone in that Name, Date of Birth and Chinese passport number are applying for US Citizenship and require to pull the person entire background and his/her time in China.

It's not like US Government would just allow you to become US Citizens. Most country have that security in place so if you have had a criminal background, you would failed to gain their citizenship...I myself have done it twice, one when I applied for my migration to Sweden and another time for the UK when I take up UK citizenship from BOTC.

 

[Goritoes]

Smugglers don't care about the people's lives once they get their money, I'd rather stay in my country and be alive than trying to move to west and die like this or drown in sea. May Allah forgive them, and I hope the authorities trace the smugglers and give them what they deserve.

 

[jhungary]

Smugglers don't care about the people's lives once they get their money, I'd rather stay in my country and be alive than trying to move to west and die like this or drown in sea. May Allah forgive them, and I hope the authorities trace the smugglers and give them what they deserve.

What people don't know is, you see 50 people died in a truck, there are thousand illegal immigrant died every years traversing Chihuahuan Desert (in Ciudad Juarez) in order to try to cross the border to Texas or California.

Many more undocumented alien was kidnapped and or murdered along the way, because these people seeking to cross the border usually don't carry document, it make them very hard to trace.

On the other hand, there are nothing really for the US Authority to do, all they can do is intercept them before they come here, but then as porous as our southern border, people are going to get thru. And the Mexican authority are not going to do anything. Most of these smuggler paid off the authority in Mexico to begin with. To a point where these illegal have police escort across Mexico

 

[Goritoes]

What people don't know is, you see 50 people died in a truck, there are thousand illegal immigrant died every years traversing Chihuahuan Desert (in Ciudad Juarez) in order to try to cross the border to Texas or California.

Many more undocumented alien was kidnapped and or murdered along the way, because these people seeking to cross the border usually don't carry document, it make them very hard to trace.

On the other hand, there are nothing really for the US Authority to do, all they can do is intercept them before they come here, but then as porous as our southern border, people are going to get thru. And the Mexican authority are not going to do anything. Most of these smuggler paid off the authority in Mexico to begin with. To a point where these illegal have police escort across Mexico

This is indeed sad thing to even hear, from a point i can understand why people risk their lives to come to USA or EU, but how come people forget that these smugglers will put them in inhumane condition just to smuggle them across the border ? we saw this time and time again in US/Mexico Border, Crossing into EU from East Europe or by Sea, hundreds of people died there, at this point this is considered suicide mission just for a better financial life, I know its a bit Douchy to say this but what did these people get for risking their lives and future of their kids ? now all of them dead and so are their kids for who they took all that risk, but if they work within their countries they would be poor but at least alive, and with being alive they have a fighting chance.

The death by drowning in sea or sealed in a air tight container may Allah protect even the bad people from such deaths, its so horrifying and some parents take their kids through all that just for a better future which they never get to see at what point this behavior of Parents would be consider criminalistics ? I did not like Trump but I did agree to him when he say America needs better Border Protection, and its not just because now America suddenly have more White Supremacists who hate immigrants, but now we are seeing more and more deaths of innocent people trying to cross into America and many of them die in their journey, its just ridiculous and must be stopped and if it means that US build a freaking Wall to stop smugglers so be it.

Also I know as just a Immigrant myself a lot of people would see my post as hypocritical and stupid, but I came here legally and I acknowledge the fact that I am for now still am Immigrant so If America did not grant me citizenship than I am not going to cry over it cause it their land their rules, just like when I was in Pakistan I was against Afghans illegally crossing into Pakistan.

 

[jhungary]

This is indeed sad thing to even hear, from a point i can understand why people risk their lives to come to USA or EU, but how come people forget that these smugglers will put them in inhumane condition just to smuggle them across the border ? we saw this time and time again in US/Mexico Border, Crossing into EU from East Europe or by Sea, hundreds of people died there, at this point this is considered suicide mission just for a better financial life, I know its a bit Douchy to say this but what did these people get for risking their lives and future of their kids ? now all of them dead and so are their kids for who they took all that risk, but if they work within their countries they would be poor but at least alive, and with being alive they have a fighting chance.

The death by drowning in sea or sealed in a air tight container may Allah protect even the bad people from such deaths, its so horrifying and some parents take their kids through all that just for a better future which they never get to see at what point this behavior of Parents would be consider criminalistics ? I did not like Trump but I did agree to him when he say America needs better Border Protection, and its not just because now America suddenly have more White Supremacists who hate immigrants, but now we are seeing more and more deaths of innocent people trying to cross into America and many of them die in their journey, its just ridiculous and must be stopped and if it means that US build a freaking Wall to stop smugglers so be it.

Also I know as just a Immigrant myself a lot of people would see my post as hypocritical and stupid, but I came here legally and I acknowledge the fact that I am for now still am Immigrant so If America did not grant me citizenship than I am not going to cry over it cause it their land their rules, just like when I was in Pakistan I was against Afghans illegally crossing into Pakistan.

There are 2 issues at play here.

1.) Why these undoc hire people smuggler
2.) What will the US Government do about it.

The answer to 1 is a lot more clearer than 2. Most people cannot afford a visa to get here, or they can't really get a visa to get to the US. Some of them had already been entered illegally and was bar from re-entering, which make People Smuggler their only choice. Most of these are economic immigrant, which mean they are coming to the US to work which will make them unable to get a visa to the US. For most of them, it's a gamble, but if that work, it would pay off multiple fold.

As for what the US can do about it, really it wasn't much, a land border is a land border, even if you build a wall or chain fence, there are always going to be weak point to break open. And you cannot staff the border 24/7, more have to be done with intelligence end rather than try to tackle the problem physically. You need education, and also more influence on Mexican policy, you need Mexican Authority to nip this in the bud, otherwise anything we do within our own border is always going to be passive.

 

[Goritoes]

There are 2 issues at play here.

1.) Why these undoc hire people smuggler
2.) What will the US Government do about it.

The answer to 1 is a lot more clearer than 2. Most people cannot afford a visa to get here, or they can't really get a visa to get to the US. Some of them had already been entered illegally and was bar from re-entering, which make People Smuggler their only choice. Most of these are economic immigrant, which mean they are coming to the US to work which will make them unable to get a visa to the US. For most of them, it's a gamble, but if that work, it would pay off multiple fold.

As for what the US can do about it, really it wasn't much, a land border is a land border, even if you build a wall or chain fence, there are always going to be weak point to break open. And you cannot staff the border 24/7, more have to be done with intelligence end rather than try to tackle the problem physically. You need education, and also more influence on Mexican policy, you need Mexican Authority to nip this in the bud, otherwise anything we do within our own border is always going to be passive.

I think one can say that US visa and immigration policies have changed a lot since 9/11 or last 2 decades, and I will not blame them for it as the world we live in is more unstable and more dangerous, and US has every right to take drastic measures to protect its people.
I understand that if their risk pay off than if not them at least their kids and future generations will be America citizens and in that high risk people rise the stakes so high that they are willingly go into a container to be crossed into US without notice, and in process many die. This is a human tragedy and disaster that equal economic opportunities does not exists even when two countries are literally right next to each other.

I will accept that the scale of the illegal border crossing is beyond my comprehension but even a single life wasted due to that will make me sad, and anger me over the fact that some families pay a large amount of money to smugglers to be smuggled into a country for the betterment of their/kids future only to be left to die in agony and misery, that is just beyond sick.

 

[jhungary]

I think one can say that US visa and immigration policies have changed a lot since 9/11 or last 2 decades, and I will not blame them for it as the world we live in is more unstable and more dangerous, and US has every right to take drastic measures to protect its people.
I understand that if their risk pay off than if not them at least their kids and future generations will be America citizens and in that high risk people rise the stakes so high that they are willingly go into a container to be crossed into US without notice, and in process many die. This is a human tragedy and disaster that equal economic opportunities does not exists even when two countries are literally right next to each other.

I will accept that the scale of the illegal border crossing is beyond my comprehension but even a single life wasted due to that will make me sad, and anger me over the fact that some families pay a large amount of money to smugglers to be smuggled into a country for the betterment of their/kids future only to be left to die in agony and misery, that is just beyond sick.

Well, all I can say is, people who do people smuggling have to have some kind of "reputation" when my mother hire a people smuggler to get them out of Vietnam in the 70s, it's basically a "word-in-mouth" service, if you have lost too many "snake" (What they refer the people they smuggle as) then you probably have a lower chance to get hire. I mean people talks and especially when someone you know has been successfully escape, you tend to use the same people smuggler.

But then when it's a time when you have a "booming" business and every John, Dick and Jane trying their hand on smuggle people, that's when tragedy happened.

 

[Goritoes]

Well, all I can say is, people who do people smuggling have to have some kind of "reputation" when my mother hire a people smuggler to get them out of Vietnam in the 70s, it's basically a "word-in-mouth" service, if you have lost too many "snake" (What they refer the people they smuggle as) then you probably have a lower chance to get hire. I mean people talks and especially when someone you know has been successfully escape, you tend to use the same people smuggler.

But then when it's a time when you have a "booming" business and every John, Dick and Jane trying their hand on smuggle people, that's when tragedy happened.

Your life story sounds extremely interesting, if ever visit Tampa FL give me a call, would love to have a talk with you. But I agree that when people who does not care for human lives and care only of money joins the business, and take more and more people in just because of getting more money is when the disaster hits. Similar to those sinking boats of coast to Greece when they are overloaded a boat that is built to carry 30-40 people with 100.

 

[jhungary]

Your life story sounds extremely interesting, if ever visit Tampa FL give me a call, would love to have a talk with you. But I agree that when people who does not care for human lives and care only of money joins the business, and take more and more people in just because of getting more money is when the disaster hits. Similar to those sinking boats of coast to Greece when they are overloaded a boat that is built to carry 30-40 people with 100.

Yeah, well, it's a very long story, but it's not unheard of, one of those "Vietnam GI sweetheart" story people are all too familiar. I will tell you all about it the next time I am in the US, not sure if I will go to Tampa tho, all my family is in the East Coast or in the Mid-West but I do know some people down in Tampa working on WFLA8

Greed, I will say, is what killing these people. People who do stuff at the basic level and try to get as many as they could because everyone onboard means money.

 

[Goritoes]

Yeah, well, it's a very long story, but it's not unheard of, one of those "Vietnam GI sweetheart" story people are all too familiar. I will tell you all about it the next time I am in the US, not sure if I will go to Tampa tho, all my family is in the East Coast or in the Mid-West but I do know some people down in Tampa working on WFLA8

Greed, I will say, is what killing these people. People who do stuff at the basic level and try to get as many as they could because everyone onboard means money.

That would be Amazing, I can say for sure my life is not that interesting the bravest thing I ever did was river rafting in Kunhar River in Naran valley with my wife, that's about it. Florida would be considered East coast to right ? and what is WFLA8 ?

exactly, more money at one go, the reason why smugglers are willing to take that risk is that all they have to do after that is live with it, and make ton of money, its the people who lose it all unfortunately, Greed has turned humans into monsters who will do anything and everything just to get some money only to die and go to their graves with empty pockets.