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The Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) is once again set to woo the Indian Army with its new carbine, a weapon that has left a trail of controversy in recent years. The Army is looking for a new version of carbine for a couple of years but things have not really moved.

After an earlier plan to make a carbine in association with a global firm M/s Singapore Technologies went haywire following an alleged corruption scandal, OFB has now tied up with Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) to produce the weapon. Named Milap, for the joint venture, the OFB-DRDO carbine is expected to be shortly presented to the Army for trials.

The cost of making Milap is estimated to be Rs 50,000, which is half of what it was envisaged with Singapore Technologies. Carbine is an automatic weapon generally used for close quarter battle.

Around 20 prototypes of Milap would be ready in a month’s time and presented to the Army. The bulk production would depend on approval and indent by the user, said Director General of OFB D M Gupta. He was in the city to attend a high-level meeting to decide on future strategy held at the National Academy of Defence Production (NADP).

The carbine to be made in association with Singapore Technologies was estimated to have cost Rs 1.10 lakh apiece, said a source. However, an alleged scandal related to the deal led to the arrest of the then DG OFB Sudipto Gosh a couple of years ago and the firm being blacklisted.

Earlier, the OFB had developed a 5.56 mm carbine Amogh. However, it did not get the acceptability among forces. The weapon was offered to both Army as well as the central paramilitary forces. However, both did not show much interest in it, said a source.

Sources said Milap would have a better range and accuracy compared to the existing one used by the forces. The prototypes will be made at the Small Arms Factory, Kanpur. Once the order is received, manufacturing will take place at a new factory coming up at Korba in Chhattisgarh. Even if Milap is does not clear the user trials by the Army, the one approved will be made at Korba.

After the Singapore Technologies deal was set aside, the Army once again began scouting for vendors for a carbine and had issued a request for information. The process started afresh and OFB-DRDO is one of the contenders. There are chances that the Army may go in for a foreign weapon too.
 
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Is that MSMC?
What about the trials conducted by Army earlier?
 
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These OFB guys seriously cause a lot of confusion.Is the carbine in question a 5.56x45mm NATO caliber carbine like the M4, G36C, SG553 and INSAS Kalantak or a 5.56x30mm MINSAS caliber carbine which would be a personal defence weapons(PDW) like the MP7 and P90.I wonder as to why they classify the MINSAS as a carbine when it's in fact a personal defence weapon.

Is the army looking for a PDW like the MSMC to replace 9mm 1A1 or just a regular 5.56x45mm NATO caliber carbine like the Kalantak?I hope they take both the MSMC and Carbine/Compact Assault Rifle variant of the INSAS.
 
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Carbine/Compact Assault Rifle variant of the INSAS.
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Is the army looking for a PDW like the MSMC to replace 9mm 1A1 or just a regular 5.56x45mm NATO caliber carbine like the Kalantak?
Nice question...I think IA has issued a RFI for Carbines and i think they are most likely to go for a foreign vendor unless MSMC changes their mind...
 
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Nice question...I think IA has issued a RFI for Carbines and i think they are most likely to go for a foreign vendor unless MSMC changes their mind...

i think there were some issues with Carbine loading mechanism and MSMC wasnt able to resolve the issue

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These OFB guys seriously cause a lot of confusion.Is the carbine in question a 5.56x45mm NATO caliber carbine like the M4, G36C, SG553 and INSAS Kalantak or a 5.56x30mm MINSAS caliber carbine which would be a personal defence weapons(PDW) like the MP7 and P90.I wonder as to why they classify the MINSAS as a carbine when it's in fact a personal defence weapon.

Is the army looking for a PDW like the MSMC to replace 9mm 1A1 or just a regular 5.56x45mm NATO caliber carbine like the Kalantak?I hope they take both the MSMC and Carbine/Compact Assault Rifle variant of the INSAS.

yes i think the army is looking for PDW,lets hope the deal gets through
 
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Where does Zittara fit into all this? It seems there is a lot of rumours and speculation going around about the IA carbine requirements. Can someone please clear it up- how many?for whom (Inafantry, SF etc)? and from whom (vendor)?
 
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So it seems another Indian made carbine is going to be out. I hope this time they except it. Unlike MINSAS, AMOGH, etc. It seem MSMC chances are not all that good.

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Both down the drain it seems.:frown:

At a time when some Indian soldiers are equipped with these...

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Better if we had just one family of weapons systems having a Rifle,Carbine, Compact, DMR and LMG variants.I would have rather preferred it if they just developed the INSAS to be suitable for the Army.Army going for different a Assault Rifle(INSAS) and Carbine is going to be hard for the soldiers a carbine based on the Assault rifle seems more logical when it comes to training.

I still wonder as to what the Army really wants.I hope the MSMC or MILAP (5.55x30mm PDW which they call a Carbine) replaces the 1A1 and the new 5.56x45mm NATO carbines and light weight carbines/compact carbines/compact assault rifles are used along with the INSAS and MSMC/MILAP.

Instead of going for the INSAS the army could have just license produced the FNC like the Indonesians did with the SS1 and SS2 and also license produce the MINIMI to replace the Brens.
 
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