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Özdağ: Over two million Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi and African people live in Turkey which are mostly illegally.

I believe Turkey will relocate the majority of syrians to Turkish held Northern syria and expel most of the other illegals from outside Syria.. Turkish held Northern Syria has limited the refugee flow and it will be very key for Turkey in relocating the syrians there

Turkish controlled northern Syria is under transformation now since the war has ended 1 and half year ago. The place is making a growth and their economy seems to be better than the rest of syria because they use lira but Turkey needs to develope this place more by building roads etc etc and turn it into another cyprus by resettling the Syrians there. This is crucial for Turkey and this will relieve Turkey of pressure which means Turkish controlled northern Syria comes with alot of good for Turkey in solving this issues
 
The main election promise of all the opposition right now is about the removal of immigrants, whether they want it or not. If you've been following the election polls in Turkey, you can imagine what that will mean.
You are free to remove the immigrants. It’s your country and won’t find anything but support from Pakistan on the matter. Already the process of cleaning up citizens database has started. Even if there are actual Pakistanis who are illegally living in Turkey they should be deported.
 
Most of those so called Pakistanis are actually Afghan refugees. It's very easy to get forged Pakistani documents for anyone.
Yes so true because most pakistanis have masters and earn over $100k..
Happy? Or u can face the r3ality and be sad?
Developed nations should only accept elderly, and children under 12 and adults should be first quarantined in a educational camps for atleast a year before they can be let in a society. If they have childern and dont want to be seperated then they to can join them. Trust me the situation there will still be much better then what they went through in their home countriez.
 
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- Turkey is facing a silent invasion and the cost is being paid by the Turkish people.

- Salafist organizations are gaining ground in the country. They settling in the country.

- Whoever supports the stay of 5 million Syrians in the country consciously or unconsciously; supports the creation of an Israeli-US-backed PKK terrorist organization state in northern Syria.

- While Syria is depopulated, the Imperialists are also setting another trap for Turkey.

- Currently, the total number of refugees and asylum seekers in Turkey has exceeded 7 million. This is nearly 10% of Turkey's population.

- Over two million Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi and African people live in Turkey. Most of them are in illegal situation. (The rate of involvement in crime and violation of social order rules very high, especially in the Pakistan-Afghanistan group.)

- The money spent for only 5 million Syrians has exceeded 80 billion dollars. These figures do not include infrastructure investments, hospitals and schools within Syrian territory. In addition, the social aid fund benefited by 3 million Syrians and covered by Turkey is not included in these figures.

- These figures do not include the cost of military operations in northern Syria.

- The money that comes out of the pockets of the Turkish people for the lives of refugees living in Turkey and within the borders of Syria has already exceeded 100 billion dollars.

- A Turkish citizen provides with half of every 100 TL paid in the Turkish healthcare system to a refugee to benefit from free healthcare. Syrian refugees benefit from the entire health system, including in vitro fertilization, completely free of charge. Syrians are placed in universities without examination. In addition, 1200 TL scholarships are paid every month to Syrians placed in state universities.

- While the vast majority of Syrian tradesmen sell illegal cigarettes, illegal liquor, illegal goods and products through Syria, they incur tax losses for the state. While Turkish tradesmen pay taxes on everything they pay, tax collection cannot be made from the majority of the trade areas created by refugees.

- 1 million Syrians and at least 1 million Afghan/Asian and other nationalities illegal workers are causing great damage to the Turkish job market. With no insurance and low wages, they are affecting job markets and escalating unemployment.

- Turkey has probably taken in so many Salafi radicals as it does not even know how many. These cells are waiting for global imperialism to push the button.

- In addition, Syrian and Afghan refugees threaten the social order with their gang formations. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, fuel smuggling, trafficking in women and prostitution are the main areas of activity of these gangs.

- The number of Turkish citizens killed by refugees in Turkey has exceeded 250.

- In the current year, with Iran's open-door policy, hundreds of thousands of Pakistani, Uzbek and Afghan refugees have directly or indirectly reached on the Turkish border, and most of them have entered Turkey.

- A senior bureaucrat: Despite the social benefits and completely free public services, Syrians do not only threaten the social order, they also tend to cause indignation over the smallest issues. If public aid is cut off, Syrians will be a big problem.

Explanations goes like this. In short, Turkey is facing a major refugee crisis. If the state order is destroyed in a third country other than Afghanistan and Syria, it may not have the strength to handle it. Because Turkey is now the new central destination in the Middle East and African refugee flows.

In order to contain the big Afghan movement, most of which have fake Pakistani passports, Turkey should develop multidimensional relations with the Taliban and, on the other hand, cooperate with Iran. In any case, TR should never leave Afghanistan in order to take instant intelligence, and deliver social aid to the Afghan people where they are.

What do you expect when Turkey is marketed as the return of the ottoman empire by the leader? He is caliph of Islam and a supporter of Muslims everywhere - so why do you recoil now that the Muslims want to come and join you?

Sultan Erdogan has been too successful in his PR. But why did Turkey portray itself as a saviour of Muslims if it didn't want the responsibility?

You can blame CIA, Europe or whoever. The fact is Turkey is a preferred destination for Muslims from all over the world because Turkey has made that image of itself. The sword cuts both ways.


Ps. Regarding Afghans posing as Pakistanis - that is blatant misdirection - anyone can go through this site and see how many Pakistani posters are based in Turkey and for how many it is a dream destination. Of course many real Pakistanis are heading to Turkey.
 
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Getting Pakistani ID card is trivial and some 2 million Afghan refugees live illegally in Pakistan; most have managed to bribe an official into getting Pakistani ID cards. Then there is illegal activities Afghans carry out: drugs smuggling, robberies, sexual crimes and terrorism on India's behalf.
Same story inside Afghanistan where people carry Pakistani ID card so they can cross the border illegally.
I genuinely hope Turks seal their border or Afghans will do the same stuff in Turkey.



Yes so true because most pakistanis have masters and earn over $100k..
Happy? Or u can face the r3ality and be sad?



No one denies human smuggling gangs operate in Pakistan especially in small cities and rural areas. But these are small criminal gangs that prey on unsuspecting people, promising them jobs in Europe and then rob their money once on the road. Some are tortured and kept hostage for ransom that is extorted from their families in Pakistan. These criminal gangs traffic maybe a few thousand people each year and majority are deported back to Pakistan.

Human smuggling networks in Afghanistan are totally different. They are operated by warlords who sit in Kabul government as elected officials. They use male refugees to smuggle drugs and weapons. Due to their influence inside Kabul government, they are aided by Iranian officials who help over 500,000 Afghans cross into Turkey each year. This is a state-sanctioned human smuggling and drug trafficking racket. There is no parallel to it anywhere in the world other than North Korea.
 
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- Turkey is facing a silent invasion and the cost is being paid by the Turkish people.

- Salafist organizations are gaining ground in the country. They settling in the country.

- Whoever supports the stay of 5 million Syrians in the country consciously or unconsciously; supports the creation of an Israeli-US-backed PKK terrorist organization state in northern Syria.

- While Syria is depopulated, the Imperialists are also setting another trap for Turkey.

- Currently, the total number of refugees and asylum seekers in Turkey has exceeded 7 million. This is nearly 10% of Turkey's population.

- Over two million Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi and African people live in Turkey. Most of them are in illegal situation. (The rate of involvement in crime and violation of social order rules very high, especially in the Pakistan-Afghanistan group.)

- The money spent for only 5 million Syrians has exceeded 80 billion dollars. These figures do not include infrastructure investments, hospitals and schools within Syrian territory. In addition, the social aid fund benefited by 3 million Syrians and covered by Turkey is not included in these figures.

- These figures do not include the cost of military operations in northern Syria.

- The money that comes out of the pockets of the Turkish people for the lives of refugees living in Turkey and within the borders of Syria has already exceeded 100 billion dollars.

- A Turkish citizen provides with half of every 100 TL paid in the Turkish healthcare system to a refugee to benefit from free healthcare. Syrian refugees benefit from the entire health system, including in vitro fertilization, completely free of charge. Syrians are placed in universities without examination. In addition, 1200 TL scholarships are paid every month to Syrians placed in state universities.

- While the vast majority of Syrian tradesmen sell illegal cigarettes, illegal liquor, illegal goods and products through Syria, they incur tax losses for the state. While Turkish tradesmen pay taxes on everything they pay, tax collection cannot be made from the majority of the trade areas created by refugees.

- 1 million Syrians and at least 1 million Afghan/Asian and other nationalities illegal workers are causing great damage to the Turkish job market. With no insurance and low wages, they are affecting job markets and escalating unemployment.

- Turkey has probably taken in so many Salafi radicals as it does not even know how many. These cells are waiting for global imperialism to push the button.

- In addition, Syrian and Afghan refugees threaten the social order with their gang formations. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, fuel smuggling, trafficking in women and prostitution are the main areas of activity of these gangs.

- The number of Turkish citizens killed by refugees in Turkey has exceeded 250.

- In the current year, with Iran's open-door policy, hundreds of thousands of Pakistani, Uzbek and Afghan refugees have directly or indirectly reached on the Turkish border, and most of them have entered Turkey.

- A senior bureaucrat: Despite the social benefits and completely free public services, Syrians do not only threaten the social order, they also tend to cause indignation over the smallest issues. If public aid is cut off, Syrians will be a big problem.

Explanations goes like this. In short, Turkey is facing a major refugee crisis. If the state order is destroyed in a third country other than Afghanistan and Syria, it may not have the strength to handle it. Because Turkey is now the new central destination in the Middle East and African refugee flows.

In order to contain the big Afghan movement, most of which have fake Pakistani passports, Turkey should develop multidimensional relations with the Taliban and, on the other hand, cooperate with Iran. In any case, TR should never leave Afghanistan in order to take instant intelligence, and deliver social aid to the Afghan people where they are.



most of the Pakistanis listed are actually afganis that have bribed to get hold of Pakistani ID (READ corruption in NADRA) .

Pakistanis in general regardless of back ground are mind ful of Turkey's friendship and would do little damage it. Afganis on the other hand dont care, they are aggressive , rude and badly behaved, seen enough of them mess around here in Dubai and Islamabad. In lahore thanks to the Punjab police these afganis are kept at bay.

In the end of the day it is Pakistan's responsibility why did it allow corruption to happen and NADRA to issue ID to these creatures.


Turkey best bet is to take up the matter with the Pakistan military directly, PM IK although i am a fan of him he has a soft corner for these afgans.. mainly because his ancestry is afgan.
 
No country wants illegal immigrants and Turkey has more than its share of them mainly due to the Syrian conflict so I can understand the frustrations of many Turkish citizens. Pakistan suffered/is suffering the same way with the influx of large number of Afghan refugees.

It is important tho to separate facts from fiction. ICMPD in their 2021 report states:

In 2020, Turkey marked its’ sixth year as a host to the largest number of refugees in the world.
There are over 3.6 million Syrians registered under temporary protection and up to 350,000
refugees of other disparate nationalities, with Afghans, Pakistanis and Iraqis forming the
majority. Discernibly this puts a major strain on the country.


For those interested in the full report the link is https://www.icmpd.org/file/download...0Balkans%20Regional%20Migration%20Outlook.pdf
 
- Whoever supports the stay of 5 million Syrians in the country consciously or unconsciously; supports the creation of an Israeli-US-backed PKK terrorist organization state in northern Syria.
what? how? PKK is mainly Kurdish



- Turkey is facing a silent invasion and the cost is being paid by the Turkish people.

- Salafist organizations are gaining ground in the country. They settling in the country.

- Whoever supports the stay of 5 million Syrians in the country consciously or unconsciously; supports the creation of an Israeli-US-backed PKK terrorist organization state in northern Syria.

- While Syria is depopulated, the Imperialists are also setting another trap for Turkey.

- Currently, the total number of refugees and asylum seekers in Turkey has exceeded 7 million. This is nearly 10% of Turkey's population.

- Over two million Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi and African people live in Turkey. Most of them are in illegal situation. (The rate of involvement in crime and violation of social order rules very high, especially in the Pakistan-Afghanistan group.)

- The money spent for only 5 million Syrians has exceeded 80 billion dollars. These figures do not include infrastructure investments, hospitals and schools within Syrian territory. In addition, the social aid fund benefited by 3 million Syrians and covered by Turkey is not included in these figures.

- These figures do not include the cost of military operations in northern Syria.

- The money that comes out of the pockets of the Turkish people for the lives of refugees living in Turkey and within the borders of Syria has already exceeded 100 billion dollars.

- A Turkish citizen provides with half of every 100 TL paid in the Turkish healthcare system to a refugee to benefit from free healthcare. Syrian refugees benefit from the entire health system, including in vitro fertilization, completely free of charge. Syrians are placed in universities without examination. In addition, 1200 TL scholarships are paid every month to Syrians placed in state universities.

- While the vast majority of Syrian tradesmen sell illegal cigarettes, illegal liquor, illegal goods and products through Syria, they incur tax losses for the state. While Turkish tradesmen pay taxes on everything they pay, tax collection cannot be made from the majority of the trade areas created by refugees.

- 1 million Syrians and at least 1 million Afghan/Asian and other nationalities illegal workers are causing great damage to the Turkish job market. With no insurance and low wages, they are affecting job markets and escalating unemployment.

- Turkey has probably taken in so many Salafi radicals as it does not even know how many. These cells are waiting for global imperialism to push the button.

- In addition, Syrian and Afghan refugees threaten the social order with their gang formations. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, fuel smuggling, trafficking in women and prostitution are the main areas of activity of these gangs.

- The number of Turkish citizens killed by refugees in Turkey has exceeded 250.

- In the current year, with Iran's open-door policy, hundreds of thousands of Pakistani, Uzbek and Afghan refugees have directly or indirectly reached on the Turkish border, and most of them have entered Turkey.

- A senior bureaucrat: Despite the social benefits and completely free public services, Syrians do not only threaten the social order, they also tend to cause indignation over the smallest issues. If public aid is cut off, Syrians will be a big problem.

Explanations goes like this. In short, Turkey is facing a major refugee crisis. If the state order is destroyed in a third country other than Afghanistan and Syria, it may not have the strength to handle it. Because Turkey is now the new central destination in the Middle East and African refugee flows.

In order to contain the big Afghan movement, most of which have fake Pakistani passports, Turkey should develop multidimensional relations with the Taliban and, on the other hand, cooperate with Iran. In any case, TR should never leave Afghanistan in order to take instant intelligence, and deliver social aid to the Afghan people where they are.
Turkey and Pakistan need to filter refugees better.
 



- Turkey is facing a silent invasion and the cost is being paid by the Turkish people.

- Salafist organizations are gaining ground in the country. They settling in the country.

- Whoever supports the stay of 5 million Syrians in the country consciously or unconsciously; supports the creation of an Israeli-US-backed PKK terrorist organization state in northern Syria.

- While Syria is depopulated, the Imperialists are also setting another trap for Turkey.

- Currently, the total number of refugees and asylum seekers in Turkey has exceeded 7 million. This is nearly 10% of Turkey's population.

- Over two million Pakistani, Afghan, Iranian, Iraqi and African people live in Turkey. Most of them are in illegal situation. (The rate of involvement in crime and violation of social order rules very high, especially in the Pakistan-Afghanistan group.)

- The money spent for only 5 million Syrians has exceeded 80 billion dollars. These figures do not include infrastructure investments, hospitals and schools within Syrian territory. In addition, the social aid fund benefited by 3 million Syrians and covered by Turkey is not included in these figures.

- These figures do not include the cost of military operations in northern Syria.

- The money that comes out of the pockets of the Turkish people for the lives of refugees living in Turkey and within the borders of Syria has already exceeded 100 billion dollars.

- A Turkish citizen provides with half of every 100 TL paid in the Turkish healthcare system to a refugee to benefit from free healthcare. Syrian refugees benefit from the entire health system, including in vitro fertilization, completely free of charge. Syrians are placed in universities without examination. In addition, 1200 TL scholarships are paid every month to Syrians placed in state universities.

- While the vast majority of Syrian tradesmen sell illegal cigarettes, illegal liquor, illegal goods and products through Syria, they incur tax losses for the state. While Turkish tradesmen pay taxes on everything they pay, tax collection cannot be made from the majority of the trade areas created by refugees.

- 1 million Syrians and at least 1 million Afghan/Asian and other nationalities illegal workers are causing great damage to the Turkish job market. With no insurance and low wages, they are affecting job markets and escalating unemployment.

- Turkey has probably taken in so many Salafi radicals as it does not even know how many. These cells are waiting for global imperialism to push the button.

- In addition, Syrian and Afghan refugees threaten the social order with their gang formations. Alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, fuel smuggling, trafficking in women and prostitution are the main areas of activity of these gangs.

- The number of Turkish citizens killed by refugees in Turkey has exceeded 250.

- In the current year, with Iran's open-door policy, hundreds of thousands of Pakistani, Uzbek and Afghan refugees have directly or indirectly reached on the Turkish border, and most of them have entered Turkey.

- A senior bureaucrat: Despite the social benefits and completely free public services, Syrians do not only threaten the social order, they also tend to cause indignation over the smallest issues. If public aid is cut off, Syrians will be a big problem.

Explanations goes like this. In short, Turkey is facing a major refugee crisis. If the state order is destroyed in a third country other than Afghanistan and Syria, it may not have the strength to handle it. Because Turkey is now the new central destination in the Middle East and African refugee flows.

In order to contain the big Afghan movement, most of which have fake Pakistani passports, Turkey should develop multidimensional relations with the Taliban and, on the other hand, cooperate with Iran. In any case, TR should never leave Afghanistan in order to take instant intelligence, and deliver social aid to the Afghan people where they are.
Hahaha the real tension is that all westren & US & israel want's to some how to keep Turkey away from Pakistan...:turkey::pakistan:
 
Yes so true because most pakistanis have masters and earn over $100k..
Happy? Or u can face the r3ality and be sad?

What I posted is a reality. Yes, there maybe many Pakistanis, no denial. But most of the majority is definitely afghan refugees with Pakistani papers.

I can post link after another which prove my point.
 
There are also many from Gujrat and surrounding area who think that money goes on trees in Europe, beer flows in taps instead of water and every white woman is gona Shag them.
They are in Turkey to reach their heaven in Europe. Only to be shot dead by the Turks or Greek border forces or sell toilet papers on the streets if they reach Europe.

bro thanks it so fcuking true - they think the goray are going to invite them n say bradar come come my house and have chai.
 
what? how? PKK is mainly Kurdish

Turkey and Pakistan need to filter refugees better.
I wouldn't pay too attention to that. It's his bloated nationalism talking. Besides in their circles it is very easy to blame everything on 'Islamists/Salafists/Kurds' or anyone who wants to implement mere basics of Islam.
 
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