Nuclear attack on China?

[Beast]

Look, no one wants to nuke China, but if we wanted to, it would turn out much worse for you than us.

First of all, China has does not have a lot of ICBMs with the range. The known Chinese bombs with the range number about 60 (in the 3-4 megaton range), with most being less. Also, only 20 ICBMs have the range to reach the mainland US.

Second, we would be able to detect any mobilization of nuclear weapons in China. A lot of effort and capability is devoted to that, so we would know before hand that you guys are coming.

Conclusion: At China's current capabilities, it would be capable of killing no more than an estimated 11 million Americans, or approx. 3-4% of the US population.

http://www.nukestrat.com/china/Book-173-196.pdf

I will love to include you in that 11million killed.

How to ensure who are the American not of the 11million? No way... No American will want that scenario to happen. So your fantasy of 11million American exhange for China will not work.

 

[cnleio]

Look, no one wants to nuke China, but if we wanted to, it would turn out much worse for you than us.

First of all, China has does not have a lot of ICBMs with the range. The known Chinese bombs with the range number about 60 (in the 3-4 megaton range), with most being less. Also, only 20 ICBMs have the range to reach the mainland US.

Second, we would be able to detect any mobilization of nuclear weapons in China. A lot of effort and capability is devoted to that, so we would know before hand that you guys are coming.

Conclusion: At China's current capabilities, it would be capable of killing no more than an estimated 11 million Americans, or approx. 3-4% of the US population.

http://www.nukestrat.com/china/Book-173-196.pdf

China is not the N.o1 and SuperPower. Yes in nuclear war between China and U.S we would get much worse than American, but i just care whether China nukes can destroy U.S's economy and technology centers and military bases,whether can reduce ur SuperPower? If do our goal achieve.

BTW only 20x China ICBMs can reach North America, that's B.S data. Both U.S and China owned hydrogen/superatomic bombs and neutron bombs and smart multi-warheads, u know it means once nuke ten-millions of local ppl killed and city destroyed in one second.

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

I will love to include you in that 11million killed.

I already said that no one wants to nuke China. Stop acting like a child.

How to ensure who are the American not of the 11million?

Do you understand that this is just a scenario of a potential nuclear exchange, and that no one is advocating this at all?

China is not the N.o1 and SuperPower. Yes in nuclear war between China and U.S we would get much worse than American, but i just care whether China nukes can destroy U.S's economy and technology centers and military bases,whether can reduce ur SuperPower? If do our goal achieve.

BTW only 20x China ICBMs can reach North America, that's B.S data. Both U.S and China owned hydrogen/superatomic bombs and neutron bombs and smart multi-warheads, u know it means once nuke ten-millions of local ppl killed and city destroyed in one second.

The Federation of American Scientists disagrees with you.

Who am I supposed to believe? Hmm....

Anyway, if you really want to attack us, then prepare to become extinct.

 

[Pakchina]

America Plans Unprovoked Nuclear Attack on China

This is an edited abridgement by Lasha Darkmoon of Professor Amitai Etzioni’s ground-breaking article in the Yale Journal of International affairs, Who Authorized Preparations for War with China?

AMITAI ETZIONI: The Pentagon has concluded that the time has come to prepare for war with China. It is a momentous conclusion, a momentous decision that so far has failed to receive a thorough review from elected officials, namely the White House and Congress. This important change in the United States’ posture toward China has largely been driven by the Pentagon.

The decision at hand stands out even more prominently because (a) the change in military posture may well lead to an arms race with China, which could culminate in a nuclear war; and (b) the economic condition of the United States requires a reduction in military spending, not a new arms race.

Have the White House and Congress properly reviewed the Pentagon’s approach—and found its threat assessment of China convincing? If not, what are the United States’ overarching short- and long-term political strategies for dealing with an economically and militarily rising China?………….

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates instructed the Chiefs of Staff to begin work on the AirSea Battle (ASB) project and, in September of 2009 . . . a classified Memorandum of Agreement was signed allowing the US “to counter growing challenges to US freedom of action.”

In late 2011 Gates’ successor, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, also signed off on the ASB and formed the new Multi-Service Office to Advance AirSea Battle. Thus, ASB was conceived, born, and began to grow.

AirSea Battle calls for a campaign to reestablish power projection capabilities by launchinga “blinding attack” against Chinese anti-access facilities, including land and sea-based missile launchers, surveillance and communication platforms, satellite and anti-satellite weapons, and command and control nodes.

US forces could then enter contested zones and conclude the conflict by bringing to bear the full force of their material military advantage.

One defense think tank report, “AirSea Battle: A Point-of-Departure Operational Concept”, suggests that China is likely to respond to what is effectively a major direct attack on its mainland with all the military means at its disposal—including its stockpile of nuclear arms.

Joshua Rovner of the U.S. Naval War College notes that deep inland strikes could be mistakenly perceived by the Chinese as preemptive attempts to take out its nuclear weapons, thus cornering them into “a terrible use-it-or-lose-it dilemma.”

Several defense analysts in the United States and abroad, not least in China, see AirSea Battle as being highly provocative. Former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General James Cartwright stated in 2012 that, “AirSea Battle is demonizing China. That’s not in anybody’s interest.” An internal assessment of ASB by the Marine Corps commandant cautions that “an Air-Sea Battle-focused Navy and Air Force would be preposterously expensive to build in peace time” and if used in a war against China would cause “incalculable human and economic destruction.”………

In the past, first strike nuclear strategies were foresworn and steps were taken to avoid a war precipitated by miscommunications, accidents, or miscalculations. In contrast, AirSea Basttle requires that the United States be able to take the war to the mainland with the goal of defeating China, which quite likely would require striking first. Such a strategy is nothing short of a hegemonic intervention………….

Pentagon prepares AirSea Battle (ASB) for nuclear attack on China « nuclear-news

This is how a supposedly democratic country try to mass killed more than one billion innocent people including women and children. The US along with other white western countries hate China so much that this can really happen. The US deserves its names of US war criminals and western racists. The world terrorists are the US themselves. Why the US war criminlas and the white western racists want to get rid of China. Simply because China is threatening their economic supremacy. However the US war criminals and Western white racists don't realise that a powerful China also benefit their own intersts and that there is a place for every country and everyone in this world.

 

[Enemy]

Actually most Whites like the Japanese; in fact, many are obsessed with them.

As for China, the only reason they are not liked is because of their Communist past. People see the CPC and they see the Soviet Union. If the average American hated the Chinese so much we wouldn't have opened our borders so that they could flood our lands in such fashion.

And the reason we nuked those Jap bastards was because we were at war with a country that provoked us. I would have dropped the bombs myself on those mf'ers. They are not the war-like rapists they once were, so we are fine with them. Can you imagine on the other hand, what they would do to us if they got the A-bomb before we did? I doubt they would have just launched two....

Do you really think, they hate the Chinese because Chinese are ideologically different?

This sounds as much unnatural as a tortoise flying in the sky. Even USA itself has communist parties if I am not wrong.

They would have manufactured other reasons for hatred had Chinese not been communists.

They hate China because of communism. No, I don't get this excuse. This is plain bull$hit!

And Japan never provoked USA. Japan could not afford to provoke a superior nation. It was USA which set up a trap, provoked Japan and forced it to fire the first shot so that they could take on Japan to secure a permanent foothold in East Asia. Japan, an innocent nation, became a victim and finally ended up being a laboratory for whites to test nuclear weapon.

The only thing I support is USA's role in abolishing Japan's emperor's divine status. That was good.

And I tell you something, you can't find any Japanese forum not controlled by US marines or veteran GIs, who don't allow Japanese to speak freely and all the talk you will find is how to have sex with Japanese virgins.

I have experience. Japanese are living in extreme fear. You don't know US troops, you don't know how much barbarous and ruthless they can appear. They are not angels!

I urge you to read the posts in this thread.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...ther-view-china-s-strategy-3.html#post4615179

Who delivered the Hull note? Who made blockade of Japanese sea trade?

 

[cnleio]

The Federation of American Scientists disagrees with you.
Who am I supposed to believe? Hmm....
Anyway, if you really want to attack us, then prepare to become extinct.

I never support any nuclear attack, but support nuclear retaliation. Ths.

 

[shuttler]

The Federation of American Scientists disagrees with you.

Who am I supposed to believe? Hmm....

Anyway, if you really want to attack us, then prepare to become extinct.

if you want to attack us you will not be much better off!

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

I never support any nuclear attack, but support nuclear retaliation. Ths.

And no one is advocating a nuclear attack. This is just a scenario.

By the way, my data was off. The KIA of 11 million would have been due to US strikes on Chinese ICBM silos in the study I provided.

if you want to attack us you will not be much better off!

Lol, it seems quite a few of you have a hard time understanding what a scenario is.

 

[DrSomnath999]

Why the hell

has the OP changed the name of the title as Nuclear attack on china


MY good lord , i was scared for a moment that there was a terrorist attack or nuclear war started

This stupid OP should be banned for tampering the name of such thread to attract cheap attention

Sh!t

 

[shuttler]

Lol, it seems quite a few of you have a hard time understanding what a scenario is.

enlighten the thread readers what the scenarios will be!

I humbly dont think you know a damn thing the disastrous consequences that will desend on you if you recklessly think your are that nuke superior!

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

Do you really think, they hate the Chinese because Chinese are ideologically different?

Yes, seeing as how we have Chinese people all over the US, as politicians, media figures, and billionaires.

Even USA itself has communist parties if I am not wrong.

Take a look at their popularity.

And Japan never provoked USA. Japan could not afford to provoke a superior nation

Attack on Pearl Harbor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have experience. Japanese are living in extreme fear. You don't know US troops, you don't know how much barbarous and ruthless they can appear. They are not angels!

Spare me your sentimentality.

Japanese war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Bataan Death March - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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War crimes in Manchukuo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Kaimingjie germ weapon attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sook_Ching_massacre

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[Yzd Khalifa]

Nuking China?

China's First Nuclear Weapons Test; A.K.A. the 596 Test [Full 1080p HD @~24FPS] - YouTube

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

enlighten the thread readers what the scenarios will be!

I humbly dont think you know a damn thing the disastrous consequences that will desend on you if you recklessly think your are that nuke superior!

The scenario was already posted by me. It's on the first page. In a nuclear war the USA would not be destroyed, at least not with China's current nuclear capabilities.

 

[shuttler]

Yes, seeing as how we have Chinese people all over the US, as politicians, media figures, and billionaires.

also americans are hosting a number of terrorists and separatists against China too

These all add together will not amount to a nuke on China!

 

[WhiteMansBurden]

also americans are hosting a number of terrorists and separatists against China too

These all added together will not amount to a nuke on China!

Not really. We don't have any intentions in taking away any of China's provinces. I don't have that much respect for the Uyghurs, and most Americans probably don't even know they exist.

The liberal pacifist multicultural a$$wipes are the one's that keep shouting the Kum ba yah-like "free Tibet!" phrases in the streets.