‘Not aware’: Pentagon on Pak F-16 count after Feb aerial dogfight with IAF

[Daghalodi]

How about Indians let PAF F16's do a fly-past over New Dehli so they can count all our F-16'?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Even if this is true Pentagon might well do this so as to not get sucked inbetween Pak/India or been seen as siding with Pakistan. Most people who matter across the world have acknlwledged that Pak did not lose any fighters leave alone F-16 and that India came out for the worse in the tangle it chose to initiate.

 

[Syed1.]

how about this scenario .....

Pakistan Agreed - India shot down their F-16 worth $20 millions
Indian Agreed - Pakistan shot down their Mig-21 worth $5 millions

AS a final settlement, India has to pay Pakistan with $15 million after deducting $5 million for their loss.

But, India proposes to give 3 Mig-21 to Pakistan instead of hard cash!

Pakistan partially agreed, but wanted third party agreement to ensure full life support and spares...

India disagreed to sign any contract that will make it liable to provide support and spares...

Finally, both party's agreed after Bangladesh's mediation that India will provide Pakistan with 4 Mig-21 as one off settlement...

Pakistan now talking to both China and Russia for support and spares contract!

Happy Deal!

This is what happens when you have too much cow ka cola

 

[alee92nawaz]

The United States defence department on Friday said it was “not aware” of any investigation that was conducted to ascertain if Pakistan had lost an F-16 in a dogfight with Indian fighter jets on February 27, contrary to a report by a news publication that had gone on to say, citing unidentified defence officials, the count revealed none was missing.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Thursday that US defence personnel conducted recently a physical count of Pakistan’s F-16s and found all in tact, none missing. It attributed the finding to two unidentified senior US defence officials and said the count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan..

A US defence department spokesman told Hindustan Times in a statement that they, the department, “weren’t aware of any investigation like that”, that was said to have been conducted, according to unidentified defence officials cited in the FP report, and referred this reporter to the Department of State.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...ht-with-iaf/story-Rw4gSknuuSBnMc2EyYe62H.html

lol...so much of contradictions from all concerned parties in this matter...every day there is new claim and counter claims...

Read it again. They are saying we can neither confirm nor deny. Also. They were checking the alleged miss use as reported by NYT. So there is that. It wasn't a claim by PAF or anyone.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Indians are so cheap! India is a perfect name for these people they truely are indian in every barbaric and primitive way and mindset!

India proudly took the title of india what the west calls primitive and barbaric people how mindless they are it shows

 

[Lincoln]

The United States defence department on Friday said it was “not aware” of any investigation that was conducted to ascertain if Pakistan had lost an F-16 in a dogfight with Indian fighter jets on February 27, contrary to a report by a news publication that had gone on to say, citing unidentified defence officials, the count revealed none was missing.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Thursday that US defence personnel conducted recently a physical count of Pakistan’s F-16s and found all in tact, none missing. It attributed the finding to two unidentified senior US defence officials and said the count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan..

A US defence department spokesman told Hindustan Times in a statement that they, the department, “weren’t aware of any investigation like that”, that was said to have been conducted, according to unidentified defence officials cited in the FP report, and referred this reporter to the Department of State.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...ht-with-iaf/story-Rw4gSknuuSBnMc2EyYe62H.html

lol...so much of contradictions from all concerned parties in this matter...every day there is new claim and counter claims...

Hi, several issues to this.

The article implies it was official, but on the DoD and State Dept. website, there is absolutely no official statement made to any press at all on the 4th and 5th, or regarding this even before, they add it in as official public record, but nothing is there, you can check too.

Second issue, this is Indian Media, the same media which was making outrageous claims every 2 hours just because they know how to type "Sources," so I wouldn't trust this media outlet unless reported by an independent media outlet.

Third issue, Asia Times just confirmed otherwise something different, and guess what... it's an independent media outlet with no stakes in this Pakistan and Indian rivalry.

So you tell me.

 

[mingle]

It's slow death to Indian narrative with thousands of cuts every day they bleed looks like more embarrassment is on the way for Indians.

 

[Chaukidaar]

Foreign Policy magazine claimed Pakistan's F-16s were found to be intact after a count by US defence personnel, which goes against India's position that it downed one of the jets on 27 February.

Washington: The United States defence department on Friday said it was “not aware” of any investigation that was conducted to ascertain if Pakistan had lost an F-16 in a dogfight with Indian fighter jets on February 27, contrary to a report by a news publication that had gone on to say, citing unidentified defence officials, the count revealed none was missing.

Foreign Policy magazine reported Thursday that US defence personnel conducted recently a physical count of Pakistan’s F-16s and found all in tact, none missing. It attributed the finding to two unidentified senior US defence officials and said the count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan..

A US defence department spokesman told Hindustan Times in a statement that they, the department, “weren’t aware of any investigation like that”, that was said to have been conducted, according to unidentified defence officials cited in the FP report, and referred this reporter to the Department of State.

The state department distanced itself from the news report saying in response to a direct request to confirm or deny it, “As a matter of policy, the Department does not publicly comment on details of government-to-government agreements on end-use monitoring of US-origin defence articles.”

And it went on to reiterate its stated policy on Pakistan: “It is important to note that since January 2018, the United States government has suspended security assistance to Pakistan.”

US government’s position appears to be in line with India, which in the backdrop of the attack, has reaffirmed its account of the downing of the Pakistani F-16, citing “electronic signature” as evidence. “During the aerial engagement that followed, one MiG 21 Bison of the IAF shot down one F-16,” Air Vice Marshal RGV Kapoor said Friday, “The Indian Forces have confirmed ejections at two different places on that day. These were separated by at least 8-10 kms. One was an IAF MiG 21 Bison and the other a PAF aircraft.”

India had scrambled its fighter jets to respond to a Pakistan air force intrusion into Indian airspace on February 27. Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who was flying a MiG 21 Bison, got a lock on a PAF F-16 and shot it before his own aircraft was hit, forcing him to bail, according to Indian officials.

The wing commander landed in Pakistan and was captured by Pakistan’s armed forces. Pakistani aircraft, on the other hand, fell in Pakistan, India has said and circulated pictures of one of its pilots and it has also said it knew the pilot’s name.

India has also complained to the United States that Pakistan used American-supplied F-16s in the attack in a possible infraction of the memorandum of sale of the aircraft, and handed over evidence, pieces of an AMRAAM (advanced medium range air-to-air missile) that Pakistani fighter jets had used in the dogfight — no other Pakistani air-force aircraft can fire these missiles.

The United States routinely inspects defence equipment sold by its companies to foreign countries, as part of their respective end-use agreements. Pakistan, for instance, is prohibited from flying F-16s out of the country without notifying the United States in advance, according to sale agreement.

Foreign policy magazine cited a senior US defence official to say the physical count was conducted at the invitation of Pakistan. And it took a while because not all aircraft were immediately available for inspection due to the conflict.

The report went on to quote an unidentified senior defense official, “all aircraft were present and accounted for”. It cited a second official, who knew of the count, to say no Pakistani F-16s were missing.

The count included F-16s that Pakistan had acquired from Jordan under third-party transfer the report said, adding that they were subject to the same end-user agreement and its rules.

https://theprint.in/defence/not-aware-of-probe-into-pakistan-f-16-count-after-dogfight-with-iaf-says-us-defence-dept/217733/

 

[hussain0216]

All counted
All accounted for

 

[Microsoft]

Stop delaying information about SU-30. This case is closed. Where is the SU-30 shot down by JF-17? Who is the pilot of said SU-30?

 

[coffee_cup]

Source: Indian media.

Naam hi kaafi hay.

 

[@@@]

.in

Enough said.

 

[Preacher]

Let me help you understand :

“As a matter of policy, the Department does not publicly comment on details of government-to-government agreements on end-use monitoring of US-origin defence articles.”

This clearly means they neither sided with India nor Pakistan and clearly refused to make any comments. So doe it prove an F-16 was shot down?

 

[Keysersoze]

Why are opening new threads when this stuff is being done to death elsewhere?

 

[American Pakistani]

Let me help you understand :

“As a matter of policy, the Department does not publicly comment on details of government-to-government agreements on end-use monitoring of US-origin defence articles.”

This clearly means they neither sided with India nor Pakistan and clearly refused to make any comments. So doe it prove an F-16 was shot down?

This only mean they didn't sided with India. Pakistan never claimed anything, it was US magazine quoting US officials, so it was US magazine + US officials VS India. They were the ones exposing bhart mata top to bottom.

@Topic, another propaganda by desperate bhartis.