Non-Christians 'not my brother,' 'not my sister'

[DV RULES]

People like that are present in every country, nation and religion, so there is no difference between first, second third world We have not to draw a line on the bases of our interests.

 

[American Eagle]

A few on this site know my beliefs broadly as a Christian who served in our USAF in the 1960s in Karachi as the Liaison Officer for our base at Peshawar/Badabur.

Now let me share that I was the Jefferson County, Alabama campaign chair or coordinator in the just completed race for Governor here for our new Governor Robert Bentley, a partial NEWS quote is copied below. Governor Bentley is an MD, a determologist, with four sons and 5 granddaughters. His eldest son has lived with his parents, Governor Robert and Diane Bentley all his life as their first born son is developmentally disabled (old terminology this son is mentally retarded). The remaining three other sons are all self made high achievers, the youngest son being himself an MD, who lives a half a block from me here in Alabama.

Governor Bentley opened his Inauguration which my wife and I attended, sitting on the front row, by having two key Black Alabama leaders, both long term members of the Alabama State Legislature (House) give speeches to honor Dr. Martin Luther King, as Inauguration Day was also our federal Martin Luther King Federal Holiday. Both State Representative John Knight and Rep. Alivin Holmes (who is also a Trustee of Alabama State University in Montgomery, a predominantly Black college) gave soul wrenching speeches which Governor Bentley and all gathered there cheered on and endorsed with our applause.

Then after Governor Bentley was sworn in he walked across the street to the Black Baptist Church where Rev. Martin Luther King used to be the senior pastor. Governor Bentley then spoke, as in preaching, as he is a lay leader as a Deacon, in his own Tuscaloosa, Alabama Baptist denomination church.

Governor Bentley spoke in the sense of he gave a sermon as a member of the Southern Baptist denomination, which includes today both this Black Baptist Church as well as his home Baptist Church in Tuscaloosa.

Governor Bentley in closing out his sermon gave what we Christians refer to as an "alter call" where you invite those in the church audience who have not yet given their lives to Christ to do so and become a soul brother and a soul sister in the Body of Christ, the Christian Church, meaning all believers in Christ as our Lord and Savior in our religious tradition.

Since there were no Muslims, no Jews, no Hindus, no other denominations or faiths in the audience this was the new Governor of Alabama preaching as a Christian, not as the new Governor, to a church audience among whom might have been some unsaved souls.

It seems the cynical media here in the US, in Alabama, most all of whom editorially opposed Governor Bentley from the beginning 18 months ago to the successful end on Monday, Jan. 17, 2011, when Dr. Bentley, formerly at State Legislator himself (State House) became Governor Bentley, chose to try to create a fuss and cause a religious storm or stink which some both in the US and worldwide as on this site, swallowed hook, line and sinker.

If you in Pakistan or in Afghanistan, or for that matter inside India, assuming you are all Muslims and Hindus in this example, were to stand up in your denomination or mosque/temple and give a sermon concluding with an invitation for those you view as unsaved among you to come forward and profess your faith to thereby be religious brothers and sisters within your faith system I doubt that the world would care or notice.

However, a newly elected and sworn in Govenror, on the occasion of our National Rev. Martin Luther King Day gave a sermon as a lay leader in his Southern Baptist denomination tradition to fellow, in this case, Black Baptists. His remarks were clear, clean, loving, and well directed in the setting of this Black Baptist Church in Montgomery, Alabama, USA.

We still have and have always had freedom of religion here in the US, and that still includes the right of a newly elected Governor, speaking as a lay leader in his own Baptist Denomination, to profess his Christian faith and invited others in the church audience to come forward and become his Christian brothers and sisters by professing publicly their confession of faith in the Salvation we all seek as Christians in Jesus Christ.

Perhaps those among you who are well educated and ask us as Christians to respect your faith, practices, and methods will now resume respecting our new Governor Robert Bentley who spoke as a Christian of a long lifetime as a lay leader in his church inside a church. He said nothing new, unusual, or unfair. He told the truth in a church among fellow Christians and perhaps some there who are not yet professing Christians.

Have a good day, otherwise.

American Eagle
A professing Christian member and Sunday School Teacher in the United Methodist Church denomination here in America.

New governor: Non-Christians 'not my brother,' 'not my sister'

By JAY REEVES
The Associated Press
updated 1/19/2011 8:36:18 AM ET 2011-01-19T13:36:18


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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama — Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley told a church crowd just moments into his new administration that those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior are not his brothers and sisters, shocking some critics who questioned whether he can be fair to non-Christians.

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.

 

[Zaynaa]

I am pretty sure marthoma falls under Orthodox Syriac Christianity..



I dont have anything against Muslims bud, never said that. I have Muslim friends here.



I know Indians that are not Hindus that support organizations like BJP.(Believe it or not)



I dont think India boast, but I do.

Yugoslavia isnt dumb...




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Blow my mind, I am officially a Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Pagan then..

Is this even allowed in this forum?? Mixing up quotes?
If I didnt know any better I would honestly think you were trying to confuse me here.

 

[W.11]

dont judge all Americans just because of one idiot lol

im actually loling at your post because these are the same techniques used by you and your media, mukhtar mai, terrorism??, got hint??

but one criminal, i-e bush counts as one too?? one sharon coounts as one too??

 

[Zaynaa]

Yugoslavia isnt dumb...

Knock knock. Open up. Sarcasm police!!!
Surrender without a fight.

 

[Zaynaa]

I know a lot about my great country . I dont need you to educate me about it. Why does the world say pakistan is the epicentre of terror? Why does analysts say its on the top ten list of failed states? I am not denying intolerance existing in india i simply talked about my own personal experience in the state of kerala. Look, as a nation we know we have our problems and we admit them. We are also working to change those.
But pakistan doesnt even realize that it has a severe problem of intolerance and religous bigotry. The first step towards healing is admitting you have a problem.

Ah yes we, Pakistanis, live in the Elysian fields.

Care for some nectar made up of milk and honey????

 

[Spring Onion]

I have increasingly said india and indians are generally quite tolerant , even quoting from my personal life. Yet you reiterate the same close minded rants. No one will understand india unless they are indians. If you must know even BJP realized they cannot go on without appealing to minorities as well. Heck, they even have muslim and christian members in their party now. Again i am not saying there arent any radicals but its not close to being as prevalent as you seem to assert.

Thank you We heard your bhashan about how Indians are tolerant . Now if you wish to continue the bhashan please open a new thread that too in Orissa we all will come to hear you.

this thread has nothing to do with India or Pakistan

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

There is no such thing as a Muslim Christian.......................
You are either a muslim or you are not.

Si siñor there is. Being Muslim encompasses being Christian, and more.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Si siñor there is. Being Muslim encompasses being Christian, and more.

Sorry................. u r wrong.
Being muslim encompasses nothing but islam.
Feel free to wish as you please though.

 

[American Eagle]

I think what BelligerentPacifist is telling us is as follows:

1. To be a Christian, one has to first accept the books and tenants of the Jewish faith which promised the coming of the Messiah. To us this is our Old Testament of our Holy Bible.

2. Then when one is a Christian, while not an ethnic Jew, we have progressed from old Judiasm into today's Christianity. This is the New Testament books of our Holy Bible.

3. Technically the Muslim's believe in the teachings of Mohammad, who first belonged to a primitive Christian Church in what we would know today as Medina, in today's Saudi Arabia. Then Mohammad, as Muslims believe (but not as Christians nor Jews believe) moved into his interpretation and writing of what you know today as your Holy Qua ran.

4. We Christians are "beset" on both fronts. Practicing religious Jews only recognize Jesus as a Prophet. Practicing religious Muslims only recognize Jesus as a Prophet. Christians recognize Jesus as our Lord and Savior, sent by his Father, our in common God on high, as God's sin offering for all mankind who accept Jesus as the way, the truth, and the light, as the Son of God.

5. Where Judiasm and Christianity parted ways with Islam in particular was or is that both Jews and Christians recognize Isaac as the son of Abraham whom Abraham was willing to offer on a fire alter to God...whereas Muslims believe that Abraham's son he was willing to offer on the fire alter to God was Ishmael.

I have tried to keep this simple and short. We have to have respect among our faith systems, and for other faiths, too, even though we doctrinally disagree as to historic facts and basis of our differing beliefs.

"Who" will or who won't go the Heaven is the bottom line and with some the sore point when discussing religions. In my personal belief I am a Christian and am assured of Heaven and eternal life. That is my belief. However I deal with friends and associates every day who are Jews and Muslims and I respect their differing views, but expect them to likewise respect mine. IN short let us all find out when die who does go to Heaven. I believe I will "make it" there.

Relating to Governor Bentley's remarks misunderstood by the liberal US media, made in the Black Baptist Church which Dr. King once pastored...Governor Bentley's remarks were commemorating the national federal holiday celebrating the life and work of Black Baptist Preacher, Rev. Martin Luther King. Bentley as a Deacon (lay leader) in his own Baptist Church in Tuscaloosa, Alabama spoke of being brothers and sisters in Christ.

This is a distinct religious club of fellow in common Christian believers.

Separate and apart from those religious remarks as a religious lay leader Governor Bentley believes in the humanity and brotherhood of all men of goodwill of all faiths. This is a separate subject, not to be confused with Governor Bentley's and my own separate and apart religious convictions and personal beliefs.

Summarized. Judism, Christianity and Islam have much in common. We have a common early religious heritage loosely referred to often by me and others as "we are all the children of Abraham" which we are.

 

[Awesome]

The more dangerous comment is when he says "I want to be your brother".

Essentially he wants everyone to convert to Christianity. Surely there must be some sort of US secularism law that he's broken and can be shown out of governorship.

 

[American Eagle]

"I want to be your brother" is said to an all Black Baptist Church audience. It is a sound, correct, and inoffensive statement which the liberal media has used to try to cause false impressions and trouble with.

You reflect disrespect to us as Christians by looking for something to be sore about. No remarks in that sermon were addressed to you as you were not there.

It is that simple.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Sorry................. u r wrong.
Being muslim encompasses nothing but islam.
Feel free to wish as you please though.

And Islam encompasses how much, do you have any idea?

It is here where discussion forums like this manifest their ineptitude at discussions: they take equal input from a scholar and an idiot with a keyboard.

Let us two end it here.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

And Islam encompasses how much, do you have any idea?

Actually I do.........................
I am not the confused one here. Jhobi ka *****, hgar ka na ghat ka.
Have fun with ur confused mind and keyboard.

 

[Outman]

Why do people even want to be brother and sister with a christian governor, as long as the laws are secular.

Can anyone kindly tell me whether swearing in on a Bible is mandatory or not during presidential inauguration?