No one is a minority in India, says RSS

[KingMamba]

We have 20 million Muslims and they all be converted to Hinduism in 5 years or Killed?

What happened to the remainder 180 million I always hear about?

 

[JohnyD]

minorities like Christians, Sikhs and Jains have performed best in all aspects compared to majority in independent India...Nobody is interested in this minority thoughts from RSS...I think he should talk about caste based reservations, mostly given only to majority people....!

 

[KingMamba]

Just like People in England are ENGLISH (even if they don't know English or not) & People in Ireland are Irish......so are the People in HINDUSTAN called HINDUS, but i simply don't know why these SICKULARS have any problems?

Hindu does not have the connotation it had back in the middle ages, thank the British who could not understand how to bracket a group of beliefs without some sort of name hence they chose to use Hindu.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Why Indian Hindus have so much problems with minorities?
This is understandable they have negativity towards Muslims as Muslims ruled Hindus for centuries. And always threatens to rule again.

But again they have problems with Christians, Sikhs, N Easterners. Upper cast Hindus have problems with lower casts
Again they haven't got any better relations with a single neighboring country surrounding India.

So can we come to this conclusion that it is the core problem of Hinduism.
Intolerance and Non coexistence with others, its the teaching?

Bungo,Hindus ain't afraid of no one.We destroyed the Mughals way back in 1707 after the death of Auranzeb.Plus Central Asian barbaric hordes only ruled the Northern portion of India and that too for around 500 years.But those days are long gone.Now we constitute around 80% of the total population of this country and if we take the Sikhs,Buddhists and the Jains(these are all Dharmic faiths) then the percentage rises to around 84%.So you can clearly see that there is nothing to be afraid of as far as we are concerned.Plus i don't think that a Bangladeshi should be preaching us on minority treatment considering the way that your country treats it's minorities!!People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others!!

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Well Thanks. I actually never came across the women you are mentioning although history was one of my subjects at graduation level. I would appreciate if you gave the source of your history for my benefit at least. If what you wrote is true, then I would refer my id to be after the first Muslim Woman ruler of India unless you tell me there was some other muslim woman regent in some corner of India.

I have the advantage of NOT learning History as a formal subject. That ensured that Marxist manipulation of History did not affect me,

Since you are interested in women rules of India let me assist you along that path, For starters "Razia Sultana" always insisted that she be called "Razia Sultan" since Sultana was the name given to the mistress and concubine of the Sultan. She went to extreme steps to ensure the was called 'Sultan' So if you really want to honour her, you name should be "Razia Sultan".

Now from here, Women in power 500- CE. 1, Various Queens of India between 320 BC and 1100 AD.

1. 320-335 BC Joint Ruler Queen Kumaradevi Licchavi of the Gupta Empire
2. 233-32 BC Rani Padmavati of the Maurya Empire
3. 135-23 BC Dowager Queen Agathokleia of Gandhara (India, Pakistan and Afghanistan)
4. 100 BC Queen of Pandyan (mentioned by BCE Megasthenes, name not specified)
5. 114 AD Queen Yasovati of Kashmir
6. Around 256 - 74 AD Queen of Vakataka in Bhadramukhas
7. 280 AD Mahrani Prabhavati Gupta of Magadha
8. 390 AD Queen Prabhavati Gupta of the Deccan Region (Vakata kingdome)
9. 390-410 AD Dowager Queen Sita Mahadevi of Vakatakas
10. 606-47 AD Queen Rajyasri of Kanyakubja
11. 655 AD Governor Princess Vijaya Bhattarika of a Province in Chauleskyas (Chalukya)
12. 681 AD Queen Vijaybhattarike of Chandraditya
13. 779–794 AD Joint Ruler Empress Shila-Mahadevi of Rashtrakuta
14. Around 846 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Tribhuvana Mahadevi I of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
15. 885 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Tribhuvana Mahadevi II of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
16. 900 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Gauri Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
17. 900 AD Reigning Queen of Orissa
18. 900 AD Governor Revvaka Nammadi of Edatore
19. 902-14 AD Queen Sugandha Rani of Utpala
20. 916-23 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Dandi Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
21. 940 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Vakula Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
22. 949 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Dharma Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
23. 985-1016 AD Politically Influential Princess Kunadavai of Chola
24. 1000 AD Administrator Queen Mahadevi of Maruvolal in Karnataka
25. 1024-68 AD Governor Princess Akkadevi of Kisukadu Seventy in Karnataka
26. 1028-36 AD Rani Suryamati of Kashmir
27. 1030-90/1100 AD Joint-Ruler Rani Kripi of North-Panchalas
28. Around 1042 - 68 AD Governor Queen Mailaladevi of the Province of Banavasi in Karnataka
29. Around 1042 - 68 AD Governor Queen Ketala Karnataka of the Province of Pomnavad in Karnataka
30. 1076-1126 AD Queen Jakaladevi of Ingunige
31. 1076 AD Queen Ketaladevi of Shiraguppe, Kolanoor and other cities in Karnataka
32. 1076 AD Governor Queen Srimadevi of Samkarige in Karnataka
33. 1076 AD Governor Queen Pamdambika of Tadikonda in Karnataka
34. 1093-... AD Dowager Maharani Mayamalla Devi of Chalukya (Chauleskyas)
35. 1100 AD Queen Laliteya Devi of Mottiwada in Karnataka


Now this is just the list upto 1100 AD.

But Razia does appear to be the first Muslim queen in India. If you know she was killed in her third year of rule. Which is why I would rather have your look upton the various names listed above as your own too. There is no reason for Indian muslims to cling to muslim rulers are their own. Other Hindu queens of India is as much your own. Or am I wrong ?

 

[jbond197]

Complete incorrect analogy. Only Hindus follow Hindu culture in India. Christians follow European culture, Muslims Arab culture...

Now that sounds much cooler and much secular.. Ain't it??

Btw, culture =/= religious practices.

 

[Razia Sultana]

I have the advantage of NOT learning History as a formal subject. That ensured that Marxist manipulation of History did not affect me,

Since you are interested in women rules of India let me assist you along that path, For starters "Razia Sultana" always insisted that she be called "Razia Sultan" since Sultana was the name given to the mistress and concubine of the Sultan. She went to extreme steps to ensure the was called 'Sultan' So if you really want to honour her, you name should be "Razia Sultan".

Now from here, Women in power 500- CE. 1, Various Queens of India between 320 BC and 1100 AD.

1. 320-335 BC Joint Ruler Queen Kumaradevi Licchavi of the Gupta Empire
2. 233-32 BC Rani Padmavati of the Maurya Empire
3. 135-23 BC Dowager Queen Agathokleia of Gandhara (India, Pakistan and Afghanistan)
4. 100 BC Queen of Pandyan (mentioned by BCE Megasthenes, name not specified)
5. 114 AD Queen Yasovati of Kashmir
6. Around 256 - 74 AD Queen of Vakataka in Bhadramukhas
7. 280 AD Mahrani Prabhavati Gupta of Magadha
8. 390 AD Queen Prabhavati Gupta of the Deccan Region (Vakata kingdome)
9. 390-410 AD Dowager Queen Sita Mahadevi of Vakatakas
10. 606-47 AD Queen Rajyasri of Kanyakubja
11. 655 AD Governor Princess Vijaya Bhattarika of a Province in Chauleskyas (Chalukya)
12. 681 AD Queen Vijaybhattarike of Chandraditya
13. 779–794 AD Joint Ruler Empress Shila-Mahadevi of Rashtrakuta
14. Around 846 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Tribhuvana Mahadevi I of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
15. 885 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Tribhuvana Mahadevi II of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
16. 900 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Gauri Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
17. 900 AD Reigning Queen of Orissa
18. 900 AD Governor Revvaka Nammadi of Edatore
19. 902-14 AD Queen Sugandha Rani of Utpala
20. 916-23 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Dandi Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
21. 940 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Vakula Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
22. 949 AD Mahrajadhiraja Parmesvari Dharma Mahadevi of Kara in Tosala and Kongoda
23. 985-1016 AD Politically Influential Princess Kunadavai of Chola
24. 1000 AD Administrator Queen Mahadevi of Maruvolal in Karnataka
25. 1024-68 AD Governor Princess Akkadevi of Kisukadu Seventy in Karnataka
26. 1028-36 AD Rani Suryamati of Kashmir
27. 1030-90/1100 AD Joint-Ruler Rani Kripi of North-Panchalas
28. Around 1042 - 68 AD Governor Queen Mailaladevi of the Province of Banavasi in Karnataka
29. Around 1042 - 68 AD Governor Queen Ketala Karnataka of the Province of Pomnavad in Karnataka
30. 1076-1126 AD Queen Jakaladevi of Ingunige
31. 1076 AD Queen Ketaladevi of Shiraguppe, Kolanoor and other cities in Karnataka
32. 1076 AD Governor Queen Srimadevi of Samkarige in Karnataka
33. 1076 AD Governor Queen Pamdambika of Tadikonda in Karnataka
34. 1093-... AD Dowager Maharani Mayamalla Devi of Chalukya (Chauleskyas)
35. 1100 AD Queen Laliteya Devi of Mottiwada in Karnataka


Now this is just the list upto 1100 AD.

But Razia does appear to be the first Muslim queen in India. If you know she was killed in her third year of rule. Which is why I would rather have your look upton the various names listed above as your own too. There is no reason for Indian muslims to cling to muslim rulers are their own. Other Hindu queens of India is as much your own. Or am I wrong ?

Thanks. But even you are not giving me the source of your information. These days anyone can right his own interpretation of history. Being a regent or co-ruler means nothing. Bairam Khan ruled as a guardian of Akbar but no one calls him a ruler. I dont want to get into a gender debate but I prefer Sultana over Sultan. Razia ruled when it was almost unthinkable during that time and specially among muslims that a woman can be a ruler. She became a victim of fanatics conspiracy but no one can erase her place from the history. Today when one remembers women rulers in India, the first name comes to mind is of Razia Sultana, then Laxmi Bai of Jhansi and Indira Gandhi. Rest were too trivial or did not leave much impact to be remembered. In fact, I would not put Laxmi Bai as a ruler as she was subservient to the British Rule and fought the British against the policy of annexation and she died while fighting. So we have two greatest woman ruler as Razia Sultana and Indira Gandhi.

 

[Parul]

What happened to the remainder 180 million I always hear about?

Typo...Add them to 20 million. Nothing would happen to 200 million Muslims - What Pakistani member is wishing, won't happen.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Thanks. But even you are not giving me the source of your information. These days anyone can right his own interpretation of history. Being a regent or co-ruler means nothing. Bairam Khan ruled as a guardian of Akbar but no one calls him a ruler. I dont want to get into a gender debate but I prefer Sultana over Sultan. Razia ruled when it was almost unthinkable during that time and specially among muslims that a woman can be a ruler. She became a victim of fanatics conspiracy but no one can erase her place from the history. Today when one remembers women rulers in India, the first name comes to mind is of Razia Sultana, then Laxmi Bai of Jhansi and Indira Gandhi. Rest were too trivial or did not leave much impact to be remembered. In fact, I would not put Laxmi Bai as a ruler as she was subservient to the British Rule and fought the British against the policy of annexation and she died while fighting. So we have two greatest woman ruler as Razia Sultana and Indira Gandhi.

I have provided link. I am not required to give you "credible" (read Marxist) sources. If you are truly a student of history then you will seek out the truth based on the leads I have given you.

OTOH if you are seeking to clutch at straws to sustain your illusions of the "first women queen" then you will continue to do so irrespective of whatever facts I give you.

By that same logic, being a failed queen who could not even last 3 years also means nothing. The same list gives you names of some Muslims women rules too, only not from India. So your claim that muslim women could not be ruler does not bear out.

There was nothing "fanatical" about the conspiracy to remove her from the throne, it was regular politics. She was just not up to it.

The ONLY reason those names you mentioned comes to mind is due to Congress Propaganda who has brainwashed the population to remember those two names. Otherwise only Indira Gandhi is memorable or significant in any way.