No J-10B for PAF | A.C Khalid, calls for a focus on 5th generation platform instead.

[slapshot]

Slapshot the eurofighter cost is six times the price of a thunder and three times the cost of a block 52 or j10 .

For this reason alone paf wil never buy both the typhoon or the Rafale. Or in deed the f35 lightening.

At this stage even the j31 may be way beyond the budget you guys wil have. On average it costs three times ad much to fly one hour in a fifth gen fighter than s f16 falcon

Price is not a permanent problem We have bad Economy now but it won't be forever. We had the money and option to buy Euro Fighter back in 2005 but then earthquake happened. We don't need them in large number as Areonaut said though he was referring to 5th gen platform.

 

[ziaulislam]

Slapshot the eurofighter cost is six times the price of a thunder and three times the cost of a block 52 or j10 .

For this reason alone paf wil never buy both the typhoon or the Rafale. Or in deed the f35 lightening.

At this stage even the j31 may be way beyond the budget you guys wil have. On average it costs three times ad much to fly one hour in a fifth gen fighter than s f16 falcon

A New falcon cost around 90 million(in 2007-09) not three Times less than eurofighter.
J-31 or any low end Chinese fifth gen will cost around 80-90million Max since f-35 is around 150million for export

 

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GCC sees India as a threat especially in naval theater.

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you have good sense of humor...
any links to prove if its not a joke

 

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GCC sees India as a threat especially in naval theater.

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India-GCC ties can boost regional stability | GulfNews.com
The GCC states currently account for at least 50 per cent of India’s oil imports, while Qatar is India’s largest gas supplier. Today, the GCC is India’s largest trading partner with an estimated $120 billion (Dh441.36 billion) worth of trade. India is currently the second-most populous country in the world after China and while its population continues to grow along with its immense market, so too will India’s need to maintain a stable, consistent and increasing supply of energy. This will further enhance its partnership with the GCC.


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Price is not a permanent problem We have bad Economy now but it won't be forever. We had the money and option to buy Euro Fighter back in 2005 but then earthquake happened. We don't need them in large number as Areonaut said though he was referring to 5th gen platform.

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price was the problem
PAF rejected rafael before

 

[Storm Force]

]Zaiulislam .

Re Your Comment

A New falcon cost around 90 million(in 2007-09) not three Times less than eurofighter.
J-31 or any low end Chinese fifth gen will cost around 80-90million Max since f-35 is around 150million for export

The only Falcon costing $80m is the block 60 or was the block70 offered to india.
The falcons PAF are buying are far far cheaper.

J31 does not exist as a fighter its just a prototype. YOU can only speculate on its eventual pricve in 10 years time.
More importantly a low end J31 = LOW END technology.

You aim to fight a hi end rafale or fgfa both costing $100m+ with low end chinease fighter . AND even then outnumbered 3-1.

Not convinced with this strategy.

 

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[Storm Force]

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[slapshot]

what is the point of making all these statements...

stupidity has no limits. increase your ignore counter

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

A bird in hand is worth 2 in Bush .. is the saying !!!

36 J10B , in hand is better then "fictional 5th generation" plane that we will not even get close to till 2040

Very disappointed with the news

Change this AC Khalid guy , and lets bring someone who wants to increase our air power

Really I mean its not like we have option of 100 F16 or 30 F-35 being offered to us , and his comments about not needing J10B is not appropriate , sorry I waited 4 years for J10B , since it was announced and I do not like this AC Khalid fella due to this decision

 

[ziaulislam]

]Zaiulislam .

Re Your Comment


The only Falcon costing $80m is the block 60 or was the block70 offered to india.
The falcons PAF are buying are far far cheaper.

J31 does not exist as a fighter its just a prototype. YOU can only speculate on its eventual pricve in 10 years time.
More importantly a low end J31 = LOW END technology.

You aim to fight a hi end rafale or fgfa both costing $100m+ with low end chinease fighter . AND even then outnumbered 3-1.

Not convinced with this strategy.

I am not going to go in discussion with you, just go on and check all the deals signed regarding f-16s, for new customer they have been well above 100mil due to parts and training for paf it was around 80 mil back in 2007(18for1.4 billion)

Now j-31or what ever Chinese fifth gen comes into mass production will be 1/2-2/3 the price of f-35
If f-35 is priced at 120-150 million based upon figures from latest production series its obvious that chinese fifth gen will cost around 80-100 million ...

 

[Indus Falcon]

I am not going to go in discussion with you, just go on and check all the deals signed regarding f-16s, for new customer they have been well above 100mil due to parts and training for paf it was around 80 mil back in 2007(18for1.4 billion)

Now j-31or what ever Chinese fifth gen comes into mass production will be 1/2-2/3 the price of f-35
If f-35 is priced at 120-150 million based upon figures from latest production series its obvious that chinese fifth gen will cost around 80-100 million ...

You may not be very far off

 

[ziaulislam]

Zia RE

If your telling me that F16/52 costs $100m each. ITS A RIP OFF
Single engined fighter
Mechanical scanning radar
RCS way higher than euro cannards like Gripen/rafale/typhoon

AND YOU GUYS PAID $100M

When J10B will cost $40m with guranteed spares/support in a war with IAF

ALL OF A SUDDEN the latest flankers that IAF are inducting soon (super mki with AESA radar @ $75m) each look a bargin
Even the RAFALE deal atr $120m each looks cheap

CANCELLING J10 in favor of F16 all of sudden zia does not look like the bargin some guys suggested.

OR

THE PAF realise the chinease fighters & technology is not as good as the F16 including the mighty J10

thats because second hand f-16 with mid life upgrade will cost less than j-10.
dont look at another engines only, look at thrust too, there isnt much difference.
lastly, all those countries who brought them arent so stupid..
rafale will cost around 180 million so it seems even expensive then the f-35

 

[Luftwaffe]

Zia RE

If your telling me that F16/52 costs $100m each. ITS A RIP OFF
Single engined fighter
Mechanical scanning radar
RCS way higher than euro cannards like Gripen/rafale/typhoon

AND YOU GUYS PAID $100M

When J10B will cost $40m with guranteed spares/support in a war with IAF

ALL OF A SUDDEN the latest flankers that IAF are inducting soon (super mki with AESA radar @ $75m) each look a bargin
Even the RAFALE deal atr $120m each looks cheap

CANCELLING J10 in favor of F16 all of sudden zia does not look like the bargin some guys suggested.

OR THE PAF realise the chinease fighters & technology is not as good as the F16 including the mighty J10

@Oscar, what is going on why is this chap repeating things over and over again has it not been discussed, he has that same Nishan syndrome.

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar, what is going on why is this chap repeating things over and over again has it not been discussed, he has that same Nishan syndrome.

Worse, his is terminal.
Banned from thread.

 

[slapshot]

@Oscar, what is going on why is this chap repeating things over and over again has it not been discussed, he has that same Nishan syndrome.

@Oscar Nishanified him