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That was not only gogoi but also minister Sriprakash Jaiswal said this 12 million figure is inaccurate and based on heresy...

read by yourself...

The Telegraph - Calcutta : Nation

minister of state for home Sriprakash Jaiswal said in a statement tabled in the Rajya Sabha that his ministry’s statistics for Assam and Bengal were unreliable and based on hearsay.


He was referring to figures he had tabled in the upper House that said Assam was home to an estimated 50 lakh illegal immigrants from Bangladesh and Bengal another 57 lakh. The figures were based on estimates made by the Group of Ministers on security headed by former deputy Prime Minister L.K. Advani.
In debating circle, this is called shifting of goal post. You are now arguing that the number of BD infiltrators in India are not as high as it is being claimed. It is not longer, 'there are no BDs in India' or 'BDs don't illegally migrate to India'.

Now that you have acknowledged that there are indeed BD's, living illegally in India, what gives.
 
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Shitty Vote Bank Politics at play again! Thank you You MF A**hole Gogoi and Congress!
 
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I used rice example just as a example ... why you are taking it seriously????

But some of my explanation were wrong... Here is more detail response given by a certain person regarding comparison of PPP and Nominal...

I thought maybe you knew, what you were talking about ..guess not!!

> i have a query why GDP (ppp) is not used often to measure worth of countries as it give real picture than using GDP (Nominal terms)

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For example:
In India majority of people are poor, and receive subsidized grains (like 1 kilo rice for 3 Rs, kerosene etc. from PDS shops.
In America poor people are supported by Government by food stamps and social security cheques.

Now comparing two nations, GDP (PPP) wise,
Obviously majority of Indians are poor, and majority of them get cheap- subsidized stuff, the purchasing power parity of India may look better than Americans.

But does it really mean India is financially more powerful than America just because Indians can buy more stuff in local market compared to Americans?
No, because financial activity is not limited to local market.

We've to import crude oil from Middle east and buy jet-planes, missiles from Russia,France and Israel.
We've buy pulses and onions from Africa and Pakistan(!), Those people are not going to sell us stuff with subsidy in Rupees, like we get in our local market.
They'll ask hard dollars (or gold or diamonds) as payment. So there, in international market, America can purchase more crude oil, fighter-jets, missiles and onions compared to India, even though its GDP-PPP wise it may not be powerful as India.

Even China can buy more stuff internationally than we can, because our forex reserve is only 270 billion, while Chinese got 1400 billion $!

GDP at PPP gives us only picture of how much stuff we can buy within our country.
GDP at nominal rate ($) gives us bigger-picture of how much stuff we can buy internationally.
Using GDP (nominal), it becomes easier to compare two nations' financial strength, by comparing their ability to purchase in international market in same currency (dollars). The one who has more $$, can purchase more stuff internationally.
So bigger the GDP (Nominal), powerful a country is financially. While in case of GDP(PPP) we cannot say with confidence that bigger the GDP (PPP) is, powerful a country is financially, because they may be heavily-subsidizing it.

[Economy Q] Why use GDP (nominal) instead of GDP (PPP) when comparing two nations?:Mrunal

Again you fail to get the point I am making and have quoted an answer to a question, I did not raise

What the person in context is comparing is the difference GDP(PPP) and GDP (Nominal) ..where as what we are comparing is GDP per capita(PPP) and GDP percapita Nominal.

Off course when comparing real GDP figures..nominal figures make much more sense than PPP figures ..because we have to account for int trade ..and all trade is done USD.

But whereas when comparing percapita figures..how many people have you seen ..who buy jet planes or missiles etc from foreign countries?

PPP rate encompasses the commodity prices of all the goods required by the common man eg food , oil, clothes etc ..which are available in local markets.
 
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In debating circle, this is called shifting of goal post. You are now arguing that the number of BD infiltrators in India are not as high as it is being claimed. It is not longer, 'there are no BDs in India' or 'BDs don't illegally migrate to India'.

Now that you have acknowledged that there are indeed BD's, living illegally in India, what gives.

From when you are on bangladesh forum??? Go n read other thread and posts... It is repeatedly said that mostly hindus goes to India... and 1.5 million bangladeshi did not return after liberation war even though it was from a Indian source. But apart from that there were never any large scale migration even among the hindus.... At best couple of hundred thousand... But no where near 20 million..It is a monstrous myth created by advani and BJP for its vote bank politics... See what your gogoi and jaswal sinha said.
 
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If Gogoi looses in this election, can we all agree then that he is a bs artist and was misleading people?
 
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Shitty Vote Bank Politics at play again! Thank you You MF A**hole Gogoi and Congress!

So what is your point !!! There are 5 million illegally bangladeshi migrants in Assam???? Despit Jashwal Sinha said in 2004 this figure is inaccurate and is based on heresy...
 
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If Gogoi looses in this election, can we all agree then that he is a bs artist and was misleading people?

Does not a matter ... If BJP come it will be matter of concern as BJP members are not only radical but also extremist... Then incident of human right violation on minority and religious riot on different religious group will increase and minorities will be discriminated.
 
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^^If thats what people of Assam want so be it though. You have your BNP and Jamaat, India has its BJP and RSS.
 
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^^If thats what people of Assam want so be it though. You have your BNP and Jamaat, India has its BJP and RSS.

Do not go in to comparison with BNP Jamat with BJP and RSS... Even a islamisc based party Jamat never use anti hindu rant during politics like way BJP do... same also goes with BNP... N RSS is nothing less then a terrorist org.

Some politicians of BJP like mody also fallks within that category.
 
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So what is your point !!! There are 5 million illegally bangladeshi migrants in Assam???? Despit Jashwal Sinha said in 2004 this figure is inaccurate and is based on heresy...

Did I quote a number? Hell I don't know the number but I know that there are plenty of Bangladeshis! Some come from Sylhet district, many others rom Mymensing and even Dhaka.
 
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Did I quote a number? Hell I don't know the number but I know that there are plenty of Bangladeshis! Some come from Sylhet district, many others rom Mymensing and even Dhaka.

I think you are talking about the hindus... n how did you come to know that they are from sylhet, mymensingh or dhaka??? or they using that tag on their head... Assam is a backword region and has less per capita gdp then bangladesh. It does not make sense to go such place to be a cheap labor...
 
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I think you are talking about the hindus... n how did you come to know that they are from sylhet, mymensingh or dhaka??? or they using that tag on their head... Assam is a backword region and has less per capita gdp then bangladesh. It does not make sense to go such place to be a cheap labor...

You have quoted this line for the umpteenth time. And I told you our maid was from Mymensing! I confirmed. It doesn't make sense to you but it certainly makes sense to the poor. I've nothing against Bangladeshis but a gradual migration will certainly change the demography of the region. No more arguments please. Facts won't change!
 
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You have quoted this line for the umpteenth time. And I told you our maid was from Mymensing! I confirmed. It doesn't make sense to you but it certainly makes sense to the poor. I've nothing against Bangladeshis but a gradual migration will certainly change the demography of the region. No more arguments please. Facts won't change!

lol... No argument its ok.. but you cleverly ignored 1 point whether she is a hindu or not... if so when they migrated !!! In between 1947-1971 or after that??? We all know vertain number of hindus went there... for religious reason or by thinking there would be better life which the believed after brain washed by their relatives in India and other bhartis agent... But they are poorest of the poor. Per capita gdp of assam is 576.. no viable industry is there.. Why should people go there??? For the house maid obviously there is a huge shortage in bangladesh as girls prefer garment or study... Just a curious question ... How much a maid earn per month in kolkata, delhi and assam as this house maid story is very popular among the bhartis here...
 
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@Sami I personally believe that the Bangladeshi house maid thing in India is a by product of Human trafficking from Bangladesh into India. There were reports that about 300,000 Bangladeshi women and children were trafficked into India and some 200,000 Bangladeshi girls and Women were sold in Pakistan! Lot of these women run away from their tormentors and do whatever menial jobs they can get in other cities. You probably will find this hard to believe, but I read this on United Nations website.
 
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You have quoted this line for the umpteenth time. And I told you our maid was from Mymensing! I confirmed. It doesn't make sense to you but it certainly makes sense to the poor. I've nothing against Bangladeshis but a gradual migration will certainly change the demography of the region. No more arguments please. Facts won't change!

I have found this ad for gauhati house maid.. salary is 500-700 Rs... Either those maid go to assam to become a house maid... either they are so cheap and had to go their for family reasons or they are fools as in bangladesh specially in dhaka house maid gets atleast 1000 Tk to around 3000 tk that I have seen so far. Ridiculous claim...to become house maid people go to assam...

house maids for guwahati only - Guwahati - Household - Domestic Help - assam maid agency
 
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