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he is a master of distorters(is it a word) won't even spare Bhagvad Gita from distortion (which he professes to believe in) to mock these here kids

I'll admit I'm not a fan of threads he seems to worm his way into more generally and all that banter in those...so I'm more or less not up to scratch on his whole interaction style and quality (though dogged comes to mind from what I've seen).

But I guess you used the word "seasoned" broadly. Good or bad seasoning, it can vary.

The family sent the boy to America 10 years ago to get an education, I'm afraid he got the wrong kind...
(Quote from a favourite movie of mine)
 
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But I guess you used the word "seasoned" broadly. Good or bad seasoning, it can vary.
oops! should have categorized them differently but yes, like you say good or bad, seasoning is seasoning
 
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It's very clear now how you can inactivate your account. Just break one of the rules listed.

could be without breaking the rules too.:D

Seems like PDF has been threatened by Trump, Modi or Netanyahu with a law suit:-):-

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@WebMaster

It would be prudent to open up a special separate thread---FREE FOR ALL---where members from all countries involved can hurl profanities and vulgarities at each other that they want to without being penalized---.

Whatever weight they have on their chest---they can take it off---.

I term this as conspiracy against Pakistanis.
 
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The family sent the boy to America 10 years ago to get an education, I'm afraid he got the wrong kind...
(Quote from a favourite movie of mine)
went to get a masters degree came back with a fat drunkard mameny old enough to be his mommy?
 
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went to get a masters degree came back with a fat drunkard mameny?

Something like that heh....the guy putting together a commando team was giving insight to one of the others being more of a "street+knife brawler".

Guns of Navarone....dunno if you like war movies from that era (about fictional WW2 missions based on real anecdotal missions/operations), but it's one I grew up with.
 
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I agree and vice versa as well- I did report a particular post to ACLU- Even after multiple reporting within PDF no action was being taken-I had no choice. (why 90 percent- the standard should be 100 percent).


And you believe that works- how naive!- It works for your flags not Indian.

You should have at least posted a complaint to air your viewpoint. Grassing to external bodies should be an automatic ban. We are already monitored and bringing in Civilian organisations will only make it worse. You need to understand that tensions will scream because of the cycle of action and reaction due to Indian atrocities and we are only human. Our Islamic spirit draws a line beyond which we will take action as many have done before. The only universal language of justice is Islam, everything else is derived or fake; as I have said before justice comes from the Islamic heart ,perhaps the only time true justice is able to prevail in human history.

"The ACLU’s mission remains realizing the promise of the Bill of Rights for all and expanding the reach of its guarantees. Beyond one person, party, or side — the ACLU dares to create a more perfect union."
 
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Individual Harassment

Kindly do not ruin PDF for other members; such behavior includes following a member around PDF and replying their posts with harassing content such as thinly veiled threats or passive aggressive behavior or making the member feel as if they are being harassed. Such accusations would be investigated and would result in a ban. Moreover, kindly, do not share personal information about any member on PDF. We are a public forum, nor attempt to garner such information using PDF

I hope Mods will take this issue seriously, as I have discussed it with you guys previously.

In threads not frequented by Pakistanis, there is inexplicable hate and abuse directed against Pakistanis from everywhere.

Also, it will be difficult to not use the word 'Gangu,' so I will suffice with using Ganges origin or similar words to describe the theft of IVC culture by Indians.

I am supportive of stopping the abuse of Hinduism, I feel it drags our forum through the dirt and makes Pakistanis and Muslims look bad.

However, we should be given a blank card when condemning BJP and their cow urine/feces parties or railing on Hindu majoritarianism in India when it comes to New Delhi riots or attacks on Tabligh.
 
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I hope Mods will take this issue seriously, as I have discussed it with you guys previously.

In threads not frequented by Pakistanis, there is inexplicable hate and abuse directed against Pakistanis from everywhere.

Also, it will be difficult to not use the word 'Gangu,' so I will suffice with using Ganges origin or similar words to describe the theft of IVC culture by Indians.

I am supportive of stopping the abuse of Hinduism, I feel it drags our forum through the dirt and makes Pakistanis and Muslims look bad.

However, we should be given a blank card when condemning BJP and their cow urine/feces parties or railing on Hindu majoritarianism in India when it comes to New Delhi riots or attacks on Tabligh.
I am afraid that just stating facts about Hinduism is going to be considered insulting and degrading as some Hindus would feel they are being abused whilst others may not have problems with it. We are now going to an era (error) of using politically correct language no matter how truthful it is. Not sure how long this will last as the fascist genocidal HindInds slaughter Muslims across the border.
 
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I am afraid that just stating facts about Hinduism is going to be considered insulting and degrading as some Hindus would feel they are being abused whilst others may not have problems with it. We are now going to an era (error) of using politically correct language no matter how truthful it is. Not sure how long this will last as the fascist genocidal HindInds slaughter Muslims across the border.

My brothers in arms @masterchief_mirza @PAKISTANFOREVER @Mangus Ortus Novem @Areesh @PakFactor and others, it is time to upgrade our criticisms of Modi and Hindutva to a higher level.

It could be a blessing for us. Instead of using the same insults and personal attacks, we can dive deeper to the heart of the issue to embarrass Hindutva through intellectual discourse.

Secondly, I hope that Mods will honor the fact that 90% of abuse on this forum is from Indians, and directed against Pakistanis, BDs, Chinese, Turks, Arabs, etc. I hope it will be dealt with.

I never want to see another Pakistani called rape-product again by rape obsessed Indian commenting brigade without an immediate ban in place.

Thirdly, harrassment of mostly Non-Pakistanis who show support of Pakistan by Indian troll members needs to be stopped with an iron fist. I speak here mostly of Chinese members, Turks, BDs, and Indian Muslims. We should not allow the mafia to function here on PDF. I am glad it is being dealt with in the BD section: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/calling-all-pdf-bangladesh-members-mod-situation.662588/

I hope we can all work together to upgrade the discourse on this forum.
 
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coming days? when are they coming?

anyhoo if true, then are you gonna apply them retroactively/retrospectively or only for the future abuse?
if retro too then have a look at this naik loving afghani refugee from Pakistan @
https://defence.pk/pdf/posts/12264585/
&
https://defence.pk/pdf/posts/12264711/

who here wants to bet that I will get done for calling an afghani an afghani before he (if ever) gets done for any of his well near a thousand abusive posts?


yeah I know, especially the exchanges between seasoned bharatis like joe shearer, Nilgiri, Gadkari et. al vs. what look like illiterate little kids. yup great debates!

  1. MOST are illiterate little kids; look at them at the end of this thread trying to gang up to tell teacher that they are being bullied.
  2. I resent being grouped as you have done (sorry, Nilgiri, not you).
 
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Yes, that's the plan.

In order for users to submit there, there is a sub forum that say Submit An Article. Once users submit there, editorial team will review and work with the author and then get it published in the PDF magazine.


They fall under Profanity and Politcal name calling and yes will be penalized.

I am holding my breath. If this is sincere and well-meaning, it will be a sea-change for the forum. More power to your elbow.

I have been warned not to use the term "Cow pi$$ drinkers " for Hindus, so I have cut it out. I think the goal of the new rules is to create peace and harmony with the Hindjews and to allow decent objectivity and discussions , not sure how long it will last. I hope Hindjew can be added to the PDF dictionary and won't be censored as it is not meant to be demeaning or provocative term , just an umbrella term for the new Hindu and Jew relationship/alliance.

An extremely stupid and offensive remark. You certainly don't seem to wish to reform the forum.
 
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