New Charge Sheet Links Tablighi Jamaat & Deoband to Delhi Riots

[Gandhi G in da house]

1. Protection against coercive actions
2. Right to file an appeal against harassment of self/family members
3. Fear of life of self/family members
4. Government vested interests

There is a huge list. Once a PIL is filed re: the exact case in which they are framed, it can no longer be ignored.

Of course a separate bail application is required with respect to the PIL.

More details I know which I cannot disclose here. I just spoke to my friend in India, in fact. He will take a closer look.

Dude, PIL is a public interest litigation. It is for general public interest. PIL in individual cases for the benefit of individuals accused will not be entertained by the courts. They will just send you to the lower court and ask you to file for anticipatory bail before the High Court or prove your innocence.

PIL can be however filed to investigate leaders of the BJP who did the provocative sloganeering if their names have not been included in the chargesheet.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Besides a lot of people from both sides should be arrested, for the protests that happened, it wasn't all a Gandhiyan style protest.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

He was a speaker at another protest site. I don't think he's getting prosecuted, apart from a slap on the wrist and I guess there will not be any major arrests. Has Modi ever been arrested for his Speech during the Gujarat riots? Although it's a grey area and that grey area cases drag along for years until some court finally squash it.

i don't know who made that slogan but "Desh Ke Gaddaron ko Goli maaro Sallon ko" would certainly attract some provisions under the Indian Penal Code. Especially because it was followed by exactly what the slogan was about.

 

[xeuss]

Besides a lot of people from both sides should be arrested, for the protests that happened, it wasn't all a Gandhiyan style protest.

In a pogrom that was clearly orchestrated by the BJP and wholeheartedly supported by the Delhi Police, only a person with no scruples would find "both sides" as responsible.

 

[Cliftonite]

Besides a lot of people from both sides should be arrested, for the protests that happened, it wasn't all a Gandhiyan style protest.

Typical "All lives matter" bigot.

 

[Naofumi]

Besides a lot of people from both sides should be arrested, for the protests that happened, it wasn't all a Gandhiyan style protest.

 

[Chhatrapati]

In a pogrom that was clearly orchestrated by the BJP and wholeheartedly supported by the Delhi Police, only a person with no scruples would find "both sides" as responsible.

Nice try. This is not a program or a genocide it's a riot. Victims and Perpetrators were from both sides. The situation in Delhi (and around India) deteriorated since the anti CAA protests and riots following the protest and since then it's been going on and off for weeks with scathing remarks and banners.

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Typical "All lives matter" bigot.

Sure, all lives matter. Except maybe Rapists, pedos and Terrorists.

 

[xeuss]

Nice try. This is not a program or a genocide it's a riot. Victims and Perpetrators were from both sides. The situation in Delhi (and around India) deteriorated since the anti CAA protests and riots following the protest and since then it's been going on and off for weeks with scathing remarks and banners.

We'll call it a riot when you post evidence of Delhi Police directing Muslim mobs to attack Hindu homes.

Until then, you will be called a fascist enabler and the what happened in Delhi a pogrom.

 

[Naofumi]

Victims and Perpetrators were from both sides.

Incited by -> Hindus
Police supported -> Hindus
Most of the died -> Muslims
Most of the homeless/displaced -> Muslims
Most of the arrested -> Muslims
Media scapegoated -> Muslims

And Kapil Mishra reigns free.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Incited by -> Hindus
Police supported -> Hindus
Most of the died -> Muslims
Most of the homeless/displaced -> Muslims
Most of the arrested -> Muslims
Media scapegoated -> Muslims

And Kapil Mishra reigns free.

What you state is correct but many Hindus were killed too. You shouldn't ignore that.

 

[Shantanu_Left]

Dude, PIL is a public interest litigation. It is for general public interest. PIL in individual cases for the benefit of individuals accused will not be entertained by the courts. They will just send you to the lower court and ask you to file for anticipatory bail before the High Court or prove your innocence.

PIL can be however filed to investigate leaders of the BJP who did the provocative sloganeering if their names have not been included in the chargesheet.

That's not how the legal system in any modern country works. Sure that scenario happens a lot but cases of interest are often taken by higher courts, even the Supreme Court based on prima facie evidence. A litigant can even file for a transfer if he feels that he will be discriminated against because he is a minority or persecuted in his home state. For example, a Muslim in Gujarat can file for extra judicial transfer to Delhi because of the argument that the lawyers representing the government of Gujarat might be prejudiced against him or her for his ethnicity or religion, and it has happened many times before when a transfer was granted.

The basic premise of any PIL of this matter is when a person's life is in danger. And who told you it's individual? When bodies like Amnesty International file a case against the government, it becomes a human rights issue. It is the duty of the courts to protect that individual's life. This is according to the basic Constitution of a country on which such legal battles, particularly cases of terrorism are fought.

It is a different matter that BJP under Narendra Modi government applies a lot of extra judicial pressure on the courts to frame victims. Often there aren't lawyers available to fight for the victims because of a lack of dates, and money on behalf of the litigants.

Despite "Gandhi" being your adopted name in this forum, you seem to know/care jack about human rights. Which is typical of so-many Sanghi minded Indians.

 

[jamahir]

How did PinjraTod - a women's liberation group - get slotted alongside the Tablighi Jamaat ?

 

[Naofumi]

What you state is correct but many Hindus were killed too. You shouldn't ignore that.

I don't. All the perpetrators should be traced and bought to justice but that is not happening, the justice is not being delivered to all - only Hindus are getting and that makes it injustice.

 

[Chhatrapati]

We'll call it a riot when you post evidence of Delhi Police directing Muslim mobs to attack Hindu homes.

Until then, you will be called a fascist enabler and the what happened in Delhi a pogrom.

I don't give a flying F about what you call me. Scream into a mirror that'd be the best you can do, but your naming won't change simple facts. And, there is no evidence for your claim other than hearsay. Keep trying.

Incited by -> Hindus
Police supported -> Hindus
Most of the died -> Muslims
Most of the homeless/displaced -> Muslims
Most of the arrested -> Muslims
Media scapegoated -> Muslims

And Kapil Mishra reigns free.

The classic definition of a riot. One side instigates, other side retaliates and goes into a vicious cycle.
Which media tho? Right-wing media you mean. The place I live in the media solely blamed BJP and two channels were shut down for a night for "biased" reporting of riots, which I kinda agree. Why blame on Kapil Mishra alone, although his speech is instigating, did no riots happen before the major riots? Did nobody call for riots before him? Did no protests ended in riots?
Funnily enough, a group of miscreants approached media personnel on bikes stopped them and grabbed his collar, and he started screaming, arrey bhai mein Muslim hoon check my ID with that Mallu accent on live TV so that he may be 'released' and he was.

 

[xeuss]

What you state is correct but many Hindus were killed too. You shouldn't ignore that.

Some of those Hindus who were killed were identified as those who tried to protect Muslims. They were killed by the Sanghi mobs. They have my full respect and honor.