Nearly 90 percent of Turkish citizens support cross-border military operation in Syria

[Nefer]

In my opinion, you are not doing yourself a favor, if you deny the fact.

So, you have statistical evidence of their memberlist and origins of every PKK member since the founding of the PKK ?

And I thank Weber for it.

 

[Bismarck]

So, you have statistical evidence of their memberlist and origins of every PKK member since the founding of the PKK ?

No.

 

[Nefer]

No.

Than how is it a fact.

 

[Deliorman]

Than how is it a fact.

Bro, you really believe the PKK is an Armenian terror organization? What about the dozen other organizations around Iraq, Syria and Iran with the same goals and with connections to the PKK?

 

[Nefer]

Bro, you really believe the PKK is an Armenian terror organization? What about the dozen other organizations around Iraq, Syria and Iran with the same goals and with connections to the PKK?

Either you have authentic evidence that will elevate that assumption to fact. Or it will just stay as an assumption.

And to whether I 'believe' PKK is an Armenian terror organisation. I don't 'believe', I assume it.

Could ASALA be as effective as the PKK in Turkiye ?

 

[Deliorman]

Either you have authentic evidence that will elevate that assumption to fact. Or it will just stay as an assumption.

And to whether I 'believe' PKK is an Armenian terror organisation. I don't 'believe', I assume it.

Could ASALA be as effective as the PKK in Turkiye ?

I have no idea about ASALA but who know knows, maybe it's members influenced and helped the creation of PKK with their connections and knowledge.

The fact is that the PKK is fighting for an independent Kurdistan, communism etc and has thousands of members and probably millions of fans around the Kurdish population in Turkey. It's a marxist-leninist organization that was founded with the help of the USSR and was trained and funded by countries from the former Communist block for many years. Hundred of Kurds from Turkey and Syria have been studying and hiding in Bulgaria during the Communism here and were under the protection and training of the Bulgarian Secret Services and it's a know fact.

Using your logic: some far left/communist Turks also sympathize to the PKK and probably even joined them, Ocalan is also half Turkish so it means that the PKK is a Turkish terrorist organization.

ps There have for sure been Armenian members of the PKK, as there are people fighting for them from all around the world too yet it doesn't change the facts you don't want to admit.

 

[SouI]

From the beginning, mercenary joined that organization, as a (false) Islamic state. They never fight for the rights of Arabs.

Still +90% of its member are arab. That is your logic right there!

 

[Nefer]

ps There have for sure been Armenian members of the PKK, as there are people fighting for them from all around the world too yet it doesn't change the facts you don't want to admit.

I am going to ask the same question I did to Bismarck.

So, you have statistical evidence that the majority of their members and origins of every PKK member since the founding of the PKK is of Kurdish origin?

I would like to remind you, that I am not talking about motives, that is in the open.

 

[LegionnairE]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2015/...t-and-prepare-to-be-shocked-by-no-4-and-no-10

I don't feel the need to scientifically prove that most PKK members are kurds
One needs to have lived their entire lives under a rock.

 

[Nein]

I dont get why some people believe PKK are not ran by kurds its like saying the Tamil Tigers are not ran by Tamils.

Pkk has always been kurdish not armenian. Isis is a little bit complicated as the group was founded by an Jordanian. Majority were Iraqi after they took land in Syria a lot of Syrians bolstered the ranks. Then you have former baathists who joined Isis and then you have foreign volunteers spanning many parts of the world.

 

[Deliorman]

I am going to ask the same question I did to Bismarck.

So, you have statistical evidence that the majority of their members and origins of every PKK member since the founding of the PKK is of Kurdish origin?

I would like to remind you, that I am not talking about motives, that is in the open.

No I don’t have official statistics or an access to the personal info of every member of the PKK in the last 40 years. What about you? You are the one who claims the PKK is more Armenian than Kurdish so why don't you prove it or you think the conspiracy theories and stories you heard from someone about armenian documents found somewhere prove your point?

Once again... you are trying to hide your head in the sand for the obvious truth.

 

[Nefer]

You are the one who claims the PKK is more Armenian than Kurdish so why don't you prove it or you think the conspiracy theories and stories you heard from someone about armenian documents found somewhere prove your point?

I did not claim anything of that sort. I am just saying, That pointing out as a fact, that PKK is a majority Kurdish terrorist organisation would require evidence. With an absence of evidence it can only be an assumption.

 

[Zhukov]

I dont know. Turkish Army operating against PKK is ok. PKK is no good But With support of whom?
Salafi Terrorist groups?.
Shaam Legion, Syrian Turkmen Brigade, Al Nusra, Ahrar Al Sham, Hayat Tahrir al sham, Islamic Front,Army of Mujahideen, etc. All Offshoots of Alqaeda.
And it it doesnt end in Afrin, The Blatant Armed support of Terrorist Scums in Idlib Against Syrian Armed Forces. Turkey Effectively Forced Syrian Army Advances to halt against Terrorists in Idlib.
Zinki Movement, Ahrar alsham, Hayat Tahrir Alsham etc. Turkey created checkpoints like a wall between terrorists and Syrian Army.
Dont know which way Turkey is heading.
Pakistan was also very happy to support these scum minded Head choppers in Afghanistan 30 years ago and see now they devastated our country killed thousands. Ruined our economy and Culture.
God Protect Turkey from Jihadist Plague and From Such decision makers.

 

[Nein]

Pakistan was supporting those head choppers only for its self interest. So dont blame anybody but yourselves.

Turkey are using proxies they are useful in our fight against the pkk. It could backfire or maybe it wont. If we get rid of pkk another terrorist group will take its place regardless of ideology.

Politics and war is like a game of chess. I do believe Turkey is playing the right game unlike Pakistan.

By the way Syrian army are terrorists. Gassing and slaughtering their own people.

 

[Bismarck]

Still +90% of its member are arab. That is your logic right there!

No, wrong comparison. ISIS has never had an Arabic identity, from the beginning an Islamist agenda. Pkk, found by a kurd, with Kurdish agenda for Kurdish identity. That some Kurds has Armenian roots doesn’t change this fact. Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, all the connected organization fight for Kurdish interests.