National Air Defense Command (NADCOM) - Updates & Discussions.

[The Accountant]

The agreement of sale of S-400 to India will be singed this year as per news


You can't just order anything by just seeing it Pakistan is testing various systems
also we are procuring HQ-16's too

Yes but we are having news of medium to long range sam since 8 years or so with almost nothing on the ground ... we need to understand that an air superiroity fighter and an advance SAM are necessity ... as of now we dont have anything substantial other than nukes ... so in a limited convential war we are gone ... if india decides to play with us with engaging in a limited scale war we will loose our air space quickly ... not more than 10 days ...

 

[Basel]

Pakistan expresses interest in S-400. Sputniknews.com reports.

Pakistan have expressed interest in many systems till now, how many purchased? It seems to push India more to buy from Russia. We should charge Russia commission for new system sale due to our interest.

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Yes but we are having news of medium to long range sam since 8 years or so with almost nothing on the ground ... we need to understand that an air superiroity fighter and an advance SAM are necessity ... as of now we dont have anything substantial other than nukes ... so in a limited convential war we are gone ... if india decides to play with us with engaging in a limited scale war we will loose our air space quickly ... not more than 10 days ...

But this time it's on Ground we Procured FM-90 a small range sam we Also Procured HQ-16 Mid range sam in limited numbers but will be increased gradually
next target is Long range

 

[The Accountant]

But this time it's on Ground we Procured FM-90 a small range sam we Also Procured HQ-16 Mid range sam in limited numbers but will be increased gradually
next target is Long range

FM90 is too small to be a threat ... 40km max range is nothing ... today's stand-off weapons are of more than 100 km which are cheap in comparison to air to air missile ... an easy solution against such a small range SAM is to get a close location and get a staurated attack of stand-off weapons ... We need a layer of defence ... Long range SAMs is necessity of the day atleast on eastern border supported by Medium range and point defence system on all the critical installations ...

I accept funds is the issue but this is a must without this capability we cannot withstand 1 week war ...

 

[khanasifm]

Spada 2000 , hq16 and other short range , they can intercept stand off weapons as well so even if a stand off weapons are launched they can be intercepted plus stand off weapon laugh paltofrm can also be inceptercepred before launch from air bottom line donot try to match capabilities of world powers pak is poor nations and can deploy more capable many weapons system in large number like 9 batteries of hq16 and 7-9 of spada, 1 or 2 batteries of strategic sam like hq9 or other will come in future for capital and Karachi area

 

[The Accountant]

Spada 2000 , hq16 and other short range , they can intercept stand off weapons as well so even if a stand off weapons are launched they can be intercepted plus stand off weapon laugh paltofrm can also be inceptercepred before launch from air bottom line donot try to match capabilities of world powers pak is poor nations and can deploy more capable many weapons system in large number like 9 batteries of hq16 and 7-9 of spada, 1 or 2 batteries of strategic sam like hq9 or other will come in future for capital and Karachi area

Ofz they can engage but war is about economics ... What do you think more expensive a glide bomb or an anti air missile ... India will be happy if they loose 100 of glide bombs from 75 km away without getting into harms way ... Whereas we will have no option butto take them with expensive missiles ... We need a layer of defences ... Without cover from long range SAM like HQ 9 ... Fm90 will be target pratice ... Hq 16 also requires cover from advance in long range platforn

 

[khanasifm]

It's not a cake walk first intercepters are launched and Sam are next step and then short range defenses so it's multi layered

 

[Hayreddin]

Does paf going for HQ 9 ?

 

[Super Falcon]

Most of our air defence is either medium and short ranged air defence nothing we have any kind of long range air defence system why our armed forces keep making blunders most countries atleast have one very good long range air defence system our pilirs are best but f 16 factor is now vanished we need to fill the gaps india will hit us where we are valunerable yes faith is most impoetant to fight a war but with common sense u can destroy enemy with faith ALLAH help those who help themselves so do the job first than what was in your hands u dud vest than leave it to ALLAH we have done nothing yet

 

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[Inception-06]

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@Signalian check the above Systems, just for you !

 

[Amigator]

Ofz they can engage but war is about economics ... What do you think more expensive a glide bomb or an anti air missile ... India will be happy if they loose 100 of glide bombs from 75 km away without getting into harms way ... Whereas we will have no option butto take them with expensive missiles ... We need a layer of defences ... Without cover from long range SAM like HQ 9 ... Fm90 will be target pratice ... Hq 16 also requires cover from advance in long range platforn

Every glide bomb isn't to be taken by missile. First Priority will be to take down launch platform. This is the job of interceptors. i.e. F-16, JF-17 Thunders.

Missiles duty will be to destroy incoming missiles and intruded planes or drones

Is oerlikon GDF for Shabrat? Can't they destroy Glide Bomb in air?

 

[The Accountant]

Every glide bomb isn't to be taken by missile. First Priority will be to take down launch platform. This is the job of interceptors. i.e. F-16, JF-17 Thunders.

Missiles duty will be to destroy incoming missiles and intruded planes or drones

Is oerlikon GDF for Shabrat? Can't they destroy Glide Bomb in air?

Even with a reaction time of 2 minutes stopping a strike from a distance of 70 km by aircraft is really difficult and we witnessed the same on 26th and 27th Feb .. Thats why we want long range SAM cover to take down launch platform

 

[Amigator]

Even with a reaction time of 2 minutes stopping a strike from a distance of 70 km by aircraft is really difficult and we witnessed the same on 26th and 27th Feb .. Thats why we want long range SAM cover to take down launch platform

This make sense. We should have at least 100 km SAM missile coverage.

Some people in previous post were establishing arguments for destroying Glide Bombs using LRSAM which isn't a right argument that's why I put my argument in previous post.