My Afghan Strategy

[Zarvan]

On Afghanistan here would be my strategy. If I was a leader. There is no point in asking Taliban to talk. They are not going to and eventually they are going to take over Afghanistan. Our only way out is taking help of scholars from around the world specially from Pakistan. The Muftis of Deoband and slowly make them slightly modern. Introduce women education as it should be. No co education. But women also studying science in schools plus Islamic subjects and then in Universities. May be Islamic Banking also along with proper courts with proper criminal law and other laws. And only Islamic scholars can convince them. It would be a long task but that is only way to do it. Plus helping them in provide electricity and other facilities to people. That is only way out. Other wise we are doomed.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

and stop listening Indians if need any favors from Pakistani side

 

[The Accountant]

Have we done educating our own people ? If not why we are worried about afghanis?

Taliban can handle afghanistan as they did in 96 to 2001.

We need to manage our own problems. Our own education system is destroyed.

 

[CrazyZ]

On Afghanistan here would be my strategy. If I was a leader. There is no point in asking Taliban to talk. They are not going to and eventually they are going to take over Afghanistan. Our only way out is taking help of scholars from around the world specially from Pakistan. The Muftis of Deoband and slowly make them slightly modern. Introduce women education as it should be. No co education. But women also studying science in schools plus Islamic subjects and then in Universities. May be Islamic Banking also along with proper courts with proper criminal law and other laws. And only Islamic scholars can convince them. It would be a long task but that is only way to do it. Plus helping them in provide electricity and other facilities to people. That is only way out. Other wise we are doomed.

Bonn framework government is dysfunctional and should be dissolved. Best hope for peace IMO, is for an elected government in Kabul to be subordinate to the Taliban leadership council. Key military and foreign policy posts would be selected by the Taliban leadership council. Taliban would handle judiciary. Elected government in Kabul would dispense foreign aid and provide political opium for the masses(.....as they do all over the world).

 

[Zarvan]

Have we done educating our own people ? If not why we are worried about afghanis?

Taliban can handle afghanistan as they did in 96 to 2001.

We need to manage our own problems. Our own education system is destroyed.

The way Taliban handled it. That was the very reason why we were never able to send Afghan Muhajireen back and in fact more came to Pakistan. You want to borders to be always messed up and yes don't focus on Afghanistan. Only result would be you have problems on two borders. Secondly if a million Afghans come on your border you simply can't kill or bomb them. Eventually you would have to let them in. I say how about we avoid it.

 

[Thorough Pro]

I would effing nuke the whole afghanistan and be done with this constant pain in our ***

 

[Srinivas]

On Afghanistan here would be my strategy. If I was a leader. There is no point in asking Taliban to talk. They are not going to and eventually they are going to take over Afghanistan. Our only way out is taking help of scholars from around the world specially from Pakistan. The Muftis of Deoband and slowly make them slightly modern. Introduce women education as it should be. No co education. But women also studying science in schools plus Islamic subjects and then in Universities. May be Islamic Banking also along with proper courts with proper criminal law and other laws. And only Islamic scholars can convince them. It would be a long task but that is only way to do it. Plus helping them in provide electricity and other facilities to people. That is only way out. Other wise we are doomed.

why not start the same rule in Pakistan first and become a model.

close colleges and schools and create moderate madarssahs.

 

[Indos]

why not start the same rule in Pakistan first and become a model.

close colleges and schools and create moderate madarssahs.

You need to understand that the first university in this world is Al Azhar University.

Talking about college levels it is even much older where it was in Baghdad during Abbassiyah Caliphate where religious studies are hand in hand with Chemistry, Philisophy study and others

Later Westerners get the knowledge generated in Islamic world through Andalusia (Spain) that enlighten Western world into what we see Today

 

[Death Professor]

On Afghanistan here would be my strategy. If I was a leader. There is no point in asking Taliban to talk. They are not going to and eventually they are going to take over Afghanistan. Our only way out is taking help of scholars from around the world specially from Pakistan. The Muftis of Deoband and slowly make them slightly modern. Introduce women education as it should be. No co education. But women also studying science in schools plus Islamic subjects and then in Universities. May be Islamic Banking also along with proper courts with proper criminal law and other laws. And only Islamic scholars can convince them. It would be a long task but that is only way to do it. Plus helping them in provide electricity and other facilities to people. That is only way out. Other wise we are doomed.

What are you on about?

 

[AgnosticIndian]

first university in this world is Al Azhar University.

are you sure about that? because as far as I know there's even older Nalanda University and even the Taxila University, in present day Pakistan itself.

 

[Indos]

are you sure about that? because as far as I know there's even older Nalanda University and even the Taxila University, in present day Pakistan itself.

Nalanda university is Hindu learning center.

Do you have this study in Nalanda or any older university ?

This is exist since 8 Century

The House of Wisdom was made possible by the consistent flow of Arab, Persian, and other scholars of the Islamicate world to Baghdad, owing to the city's position as capital of the Abbasid Caliphate.[5] This is evidenced by the large number of scholars known to have studied in Baghdad between the 8th and 13th centuries, such as Al-Jahiz, Al-Kindi, and Al-Ghazali among others, all of whom would have contributed to a vibrant academic community in Baghdad, producing a great number of notable works, regardless of the existence of a formal academy.[5][4] The fields to which scholars associated with the House of Wisdom contributed include, but are not limited to, philosophy, mathematics, medicine, astronomy, and optics.[6][5] The early name of the library, Khizanat al-Hikma (literally, "Storehouse of Wisdom"), derives from its function as a place for the preservation of rare books and poetry, a primary function of the House of Wisdom until its destruction.[1]

House of Wisdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mongol destroyed it and we see Islamic world get drown in scientific field afterward

 

[Genghis khan1]

Al Azhar University.

Al Azhar is generation some tools now-a-day. some of the scholars and Imam from Al Azhar working in US, can’t even get the historical Islamic stories correct without mixing them.

 

[Genghis khan1]

On Afghanistan here would be my strategy. If I was a leader. There is no point in asking Taliban to talk. They are not going to and eventually they are going to take over Afghanistan. Our only way out is taking help of scholars from around the world specially from Pakistan. The Muftis of Deoband and slowly make them slightly modern. Introduce women education as it should be. No co education. But women also studying science in schools plus Islamic subjects and then in Universities. May be Islamic Banking also along with proper courts with proper criminal law and other laws. And only Islamic scholars can convince them. It would be a long task but that is only way to do it. Plus helping them in provide electricity and other facilities to people. That is only way out. Other wise we are doomed.

#1. Who will do the investment.
#2. Now since Taliban numbers are swelling exponentially, Averages Taliban is still an average Afghan. Yesterday they were ANA, today they are Taliban.
#3. Mufti’s of Deoband aren’t stupid. Yesterday, they were used for Kashmir and Afghanistan than, when govt couldn’t take the international pressure their groups were declared outlaw terrorist. Idk how much willing they will be to cooperate this time. Specially since WoT began, and mussraf enlightenment theory, many Molvi/islam inclined officers were overlooked for promotion to Command staff. I think during PPP times, General selected for DG ISI post was not assigned/promoted because of US objection and the person who did got promoted, ( Shuja pasha) got Raymond Davis out.

 

[AgnosticIndian]

Do you have this study in Nalanda or any older university ?

yes.
At its peak the school attracted scholars and students from near and far, with some travelling from Tibet, China, Korea, and Central Asia.[74] The highly formalised methods of Buddhist studies helped the establishment of large teaching institutions such as Taxila, Nalanda, and Vikramashila,[75] which are often characterised as India's early universities.[12][76][77][78] Archaeological evidence also notes contact with the Shailendra dynasty of Indonesia, one of whose kings built a monastery in the complex. Nalanda flourished under the patronage of the Gupta Empire in the 5th and 6th centuries, and later under Harsha, the emperor of Kannauj.[18] The liberal cultural traditions inherited from the Gupta age resulted in a period of growth and prosperity until the ninth century CE. The subsequent centuries were a time of gradual decline, a period during which the tantric developments of Buddhism became most pronounced in eastern India under the Pala Empire.[79]

Nalanda was there since BCE era. sadly it too was destroyed.

The final blow was delivered when its still-flourishing monasteries, the last visible symbols of its existence in India, were overrun during the Muslim invasions that swept across Northern India at the turn of the 13th century.

 

[Indos]

yes.
At its peak the school attracted scholars and students from near and far, with some travelling from Tibet, China, Korea, and Central Asia.[74] The highly formalised methods of Buddhist studies helped the establishment of large teaching institutions such as Taxila, Nalanda, and Vikramashila,[75] which are often characterised as India's early universities.[12][76][77][78] Archaeological evidence also notes contact with the Shailendra dynasty of Indonesia, one of whose kings built a monastery in the complex.

Dont just say yes, bring historical prof