Mustafa Jabbar: Bangladesh will lead the 4th industrial revolution

[TopCat]

The 1st industrial revolution was probably accompanied with the steam engine and among many others the introduction of electricity. So, Mr. @TopCat could you please tell us when our Golden Bangladesh will introduce its own steam locomotive to run a train?

I can see here many of these made in Japan steam locomotives standing at parks for the young kids to see and appreciate the achievements of their forefathers. How about you and again how about those of your descendants can they take pride of this achievement made by your generation?

The country has become rotten filth without any real achievements except big talking like 4th Industrial revolution. What is this 4th when Indonesia, India, and China supply us even the train carriages? All these belong to 2nd IR, then how about manufacturing sewing machines? Or, say, the iron nails that do not bend at the first strike of a hammer? Producing good quality nails may be a part of the 1st industrial revolution.

wtf YOU TALKING ABOUT ??? You want people to start inventing steam engine here.?

 

[Tanveer666]

wtf YOU TALKING ABOUT ??? You want people to start inventing steam engine here.?

Well, being able to design and manufacture ANY powerplant by ourselves would a good start.

 

[bluesky]

wtf YOU TALKING ABOUT ??? You want people to start inventing steam engine here.?

Why not build the steam engine and prove the worth of your nation. When you cannot build a very small thing like the steam engine that will pull a train how do you expect your big-talking Haseena to build sky train to take you and your family to space? With a low intellectual capacity, it seems another two hundred years is not sufficient to build this small thing for BD people. It is a shame.

Stop sending idiotic responses.

 

[VikingRaider]

Why not build the steam engine and prove the worth of your nation. When you cannot build a very small thing like the steam engine that will pull a train how do you expect your big-talking Haseena to build sky train to take you and your family to space?

Because we are noble so we will go to moon first . Low works are for japanese chhotoloks , and you already ensured this fact that day . We will borrow money and will build projects with 3 times greater price , and will successfully eat the rest . And we will earn ( also as individual ) and will waste money and will not save. As wasting unnecessary money is our culture . টাকা পয়সা ব্যাপার না রে ভাই , ফুটানিই আসল !
Its called the philosophy of charvak .That's why chavak said , "যাবৎ জীবেৎ, সুখং জীবেৎ,ঋণং কৃত্বা ঘৃতং পিবেৎ।
ভস্মীভূতস্য দেহস্য পুনরাগমনং কুতঃ" ।

 

[TopCat]

Why not build the steam engine and prove the worth of your nation. When you cannot build a very small thing like the steam engine that will pull a train how do you expect your big-talking Haseena to build sky train to take you and your family to space? With a low intellectual capacity, it seems another two hundred years is not sufficient to build this small thing for BD people. It is a shame.

Stop sending idiotic responses.

James Watt built it in his own back yard. Why not you start using you lazy brain and start building. Good luck

 

[Michael Corleone]

C programming is technically mandatory at college level, thanks to the subject called ICT (which all students must take) but there is a severe lack of trained teachers in colleges so we didn't learn anything worthwhile. The teachers are only interested in passing the students, nothing more nothing less.

EDIT: Also the fact that probably 70-80% of the students don't even own a computer is another redflag. So self teaching is out of the question.

which means you have all these supposedly qualified C programmers who don't know how to open up python//// fucking hell.....

 

[Tanveer666]

which means you have all these supposedly qualified C programmers who don't know how to open up python//// fucking hell.....

the quality of the instructors vary from college to college but yeah, more or less.
Edit: Even if the instructor is technically competent he won't go out of limb to teach the students more interesting stuff (or even go into the details of programming), because the most students couldn't care less. They see it as something to pass, not something to learn. ironically these students are the ones who end up CS as their major in universities lol.

 

[VikingRaider]

which means you have all these supposedly qualified C programmers who don't know how to open up python//// fucking hell.....

Or ask them how many of them even heard the name of python. Or even heard because of pressure then forget it considering python as the snake python.

We all read in nursery that, "অজগরটি আসছে তেড়ে, আমটি আমি খাব পেড়ে ", how may student remember it .

So here lots of them perhaps will take python as the snake python ( just kidding) .

I will not be surprised if a small part do this. After all digital nation by force. However imposing something will not make us digital , and digital necessarily should not mean that you have to impose coding to everyone.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Or ask them how many of them even heard the name of python. Or even heard because of pressure then forget it considering python as the snake python.

We all read in nursery that, "অজগরটি আসছে তেড়ে, আমটি আমি খাব পেড়ে ", how may student remember it .

So here lots of them perhaps will take python as the snake python ( just kidding) .

I will not be surprised if a small part do this. After all digital nation by force. However imposing something will not make us digital , and digital necessarily should not mean that you have to impose coding to everyone.

the only thing that got digital is 5 yo now have access to the kind of **** i couldn't even fathom at 14 XD

the quality of the instructors vary from college to college but yeah, more or less.
Edit: Even if the instructor is technically competent he won't go out of limb to teach the students more interesting stuff (or even go into the details of programming), because the most students couldn't care less. They see it as something to pass, not something to learn. ironically these students are the ones who end up CS as their major in universities lol.

well that was kind of me with the med school... now i do have to say, i enjoy the rush

 

[Nilgiri]

"- The First Industrial Revolution used water and steam power to mechanize production.

But I thought you Bengalis were experts in chai-making? @Joe Shearer

 

[fallstuff]

C programming is technically mandatory at college level, thanks to the subject called ICT (which all students must take) but there is a severe lack of trained teachers in colleges so we didn't learn anything worthwhile. The teachers are only interested in passing the students, nothing more nothing less.

EDIT: Also the fact that probably 70-80% of the students don't even own a computer is another redflag. So self teaching is out of the question.

I personally think C should only be taught to students who may have a use for it. Sometimes it is tough for some students to make the transition from C to OOP. My suggestions would be go straight to Java or Python. It is much easier to learn the Grammar of OOP Syntax.

 

[Joe Shearer]

But I thought you Bengalis were experts in chai-making? @Joe Shearer

You ARE aware that Calcutta, and larger Calcutta, and Bengal in general, was among the leading hubs of the industrialisation in India; why did we get there first, and where do you think we got to be experts in handling water and steam power?

 

[Nilgiri]

You ARE aware that Calcutta, and larger Calcutta, and Bengal in general, was among the leading hubs of the industrialisation in India; why did we get there first, and where do you think we got to be experts in handling water and steam power?

See @bluesky , yer fine pal! Just harness your inner Ghoti to combine with the pragmatic raw can-do Bangal attitude....and you can make as many steam engines as you want to!

 

[bluesky]

James Watt built it in his own back yard. Why not you start using you lazy brain and start building. Good luck

Why me, an uneducated street guy? Please ask that intellectual Pundit Jabbar or what to learn more about the 1st industrial revolution before he talks even the 2nd one. This guy is asking us to do Ph.D. when we are yet to enter the Primary 1st grade.

Bangladesh suffers from intellectual hollowness. Is it because of too much of beef consumption that people are not meritorious or is it because of ignorant peasant ancestry that some people talk of the 4th industrial revolution which can be pursued only by the countries with a strong background of most developed status?

Historically, Hindus are a way more meritorious than the Muslims in the entire Bengal. This is why they are coming up and they should do so because only they can lead the country with their non-meat intelligence.

 

[Bilal9]

Well, being able to design and manufacture ANY powerplant by ourselves would a good start.

You fail to remember, that neither India nor Pakistan designed or manufactured ANY significant pieces of Machinery before WWII.

Nothing.

Maybe you are too young and in that case, ask your parents/grandparents. They haven't forgotten.

Everything was 'Phoren Kolla-Borey-Sun' and all after WW II. Stealing designs, copying and reverse engineering ending up with horribly bad copies. Sometimes with license, sometimes without.

Even though both these countries (especially India) had massive needs and demands for these items with their gargantuan population levels.

Until WW II - Indian steam engines were all made in the UK by Sahibs. If the Sahibs threw Indians some bones in the form of setting up DLW, CLW etc. then Indians could build a few things. Diesel locos were copied EMD designs around the sixties. Pakistan's population was very small, so it was all import. Comparison with India then or today was/is moot.

Only in the early nineties after forty years of Nehruvian license raj and closed economy, has India gotten any where as far as advanced manufacturing, which is still a pittance compared to any minuscule European country like Czechosolvakia, Poland or Holland.

So get it in your brain desis - Sahib won't come fix your machines anymore. Those days are gone, gotta do it yourself. Gotta get on the ball.

Indian trolls stop blathering and trying to feel good by dick measuring and dissing backwaters like Bangladesh which has shown far better governance indicators than India itself. Long road ahead of you trying to fix major issues like health and sanitation before getting to be superpower.

Stop being proud of 'showcase' projects like Mangalayan which are all vote getting tactics. Doesn't get a square meal for the aam janta, its pointless.

Like I always say - this side or that side it's still sh*t, and still smelly. Yes this means the whole subcontinent.

গু এর এপিঠ আর ঐপিঠ সবই এক.

You ARE aware that Calcutta, and larger Calcutta, and Bengal in general, was among the leading hubs of the industrialisation in India; why did we get there first, and where do you think we got to be experts in handling water and steam power?

Dada with all due respect, Calcutta was the seat of British power and investments in India for two hundred odd years until they left pretty much (1940's). The opportunities for those near the seat of power afforded a concentration of technical, financial and intellectual expertise which were not available anywhere else in India (except near the West in Mumbai).

This is still paying dividends in today's Kolkata.