Muslims, Christians sons of Ram, those who don't believe it should leave India: BJP minister

[abjktu]

Dear Sadhvi Minister,

Where should i Go.................................?????

Always welcome to Kerala..After all its your ancestral land ne??..
Why are you giving so much importance to a petty marwaadi minister??

 

[Saheli]

And btw, if we consider our country a civilized one with rule of law, then strong and just law and order should do the job of radiochemotherapy, not Hindutva.

Yes, that is the normal expected course, but what happens when the state is subverted?

Also Hindutva is the character of our constitution and the principles our country was formed on. So Hindutva doing the job when the state has failed is dharma.

 

[Parul]

Dear Sadhvi Minister,

Where should i Go.................................?????

You remain where you are. In next elections, throw this idiot sadhvi out by using the power of your Vote.

 

[NKVD]

Let me explain, take the example of visible form of cancer, like mouth cancer or inflammatory breast cancer, at stage one they look nothing serious, just a small patch of light red or mild rash, or a mosquito bite, but if you fail to notice it on time then it grows and at one point becomes uncontrolable and incurable, at stage four it becomes horrible to even look at. A stage 1 cancer and stage 4 cancer may not look similar from any angle, but make no mistake; they both are cancer!

Let's say Hindu extremism is at stage 1, looks barely anything to worry about, and looks very different from the Islamic extremism in some other countries that have reached stage 4 with state patronage, but make no mistake; it will become uncontrolable and ugly if we ignore its presence, and state patronage will only make things worse. This I would like to say to @SarthakGanguly and many others also who don't see the similarities between the two and only focus on the differences which is present at this moment.

There is a no Point in Extremism Hinduism. But The Elements will be Always there to Unless Islamic Extremism Stops.Hindus Never Left there geographical foundations to Spread or Force their Ideologies on other Races of the World In the history of there Existence. Unlike Romans for Christianity and Umayyads for Islam. Hinduism is a Soul of this Land Its originated here its culture flourished here Unlike Many other Religions.It invaded thousand Times and Barbaric Races tried Many times to corrupt its Soul But they Failed to Hit its Cultural Core Values. Hindus were Made to Pay taxes to practicing there own Religions were they in Majority there Social values and Religious Values offended Many times by Other Races .Ideological hatred Still Exists in Hindus for Being Exploited for thousand years.Congress did not realized it And It Resulted in Resurrection of New Ideological War which is Called Rights wing Politics.IF congress Realized it Long ago You Might not have to Seen its Repercussions After Independence.

 

[abjktu]

Tipu Sultan is not a freedom fighter. He never fought for 'Indian' independence. Plus, he was a bigot. By that yardstick the Moplah rebellion was a freedom movement.

Tipu is a great freedom fighter and pride of Karnataka as per Karnataka government...They are planing to name a new university in mysore after Tipu...

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And btw, if we consider our country a civilized one with rule of law, then strong and just law and order should do the job of radiochemotherapy, not Hindutva.

Rule of a strong and just Law has failed to deal with Islamism in every country in the world.

USA - check
UK - check
Netherlands - check
Belgie - check
Sweden - check
Syria - check
Iraq - check
Egypt - check
Libya - check
France - check
etc etc

Political correctness is at such terrible levels and the desire to do harakiri so intense that even genuine concerns are overlooked to avoid being termed as an 'Islamophobe'. In India only the Hindutwadis speak bluntly. At times they are wrong or half wrong(like here), but that's all there is to it.

If you want I can give you specific and shocking example of the failure of composite idea of Hindu-Muslim Indian nationalism. I don't deny Muslims in India can be nationalists, many are. But they keep nation above religion, like me. But that number is likely to decline (seeing the world).

Tipu is a great freedom fighter and pride of Karnataka as per Karnataka government...They are planing to name a new university in mysore after Tipu...

Not going to happen. The Government is trying, true. But we won't let it happen.

 

[thesolar65]

These fringe elements are acting like speed breakers for Modi.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

These fringe elements are acting like speed breakers for Modi.

"Allah ke bande hasde jo bhi ho kal phir aayega
Allah ke bande hasde allah ke bande
Allah ke bande hasde jo bhi ho kal phir aayega"

There. Now its kosher

 

[The_Showstopper]

Yes. Thousands of Indian nationalists of all colors and hues died with those sacred words in their mouths. If you are unaware of Ram you need to be educated. Start reading Ramayana. As an Indian it is no harm if you read an Indian epic.

And there are also many thousands of Indian nationalists who laid their lives for their country without chanting these words. And it is not a per-requisite that one has to chant a specific term to become a patriot. I know about Ram and Ramayana(flying chariots and stuff) but I would want to know the literal meaning of word "Ram"...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Either I know little about India, or your post had NOTHING relevant to the question put up and seemed only like a massive defensive copy paste on Modi rather than a look at the problem.

Whatever her role is in the government, she represents them and the Indian state. If she holds these rabid ideals it means that she is instutuionally going to ingrain them in as well. Which makes me wonder who else holds similar ideals.

How the heck does the congress electioneering or the results of 2014 have any impact on the lack of institutionalization of Hindutva during and after the Babri Masjid Incident? I see no coherent explanation in your post other than brief history of Indian electioneering rather than the communal aspect of it.

Yes Sir you understand very little of India

Just because A right wing government is in power ; it does not give them freedom to
do as they please ; Governments work within the ambit of the constitution

By talking of election history I meant to say that Previously too BJP has been in power
and India has remained secular

It has always been difficult for Pakistanis to accept that India is a SECULAR country
with 170 million Muslims

Obviously we are NOT perfect BUT India is the BEST country for Muslims
IF they are in a minority ie as compared to even US and UK

Finally there is nothing called Institutionalising Hindutva within the corridors of power
That is because In various Government Departments the people
who work there work according to RULES and NOT in an arbitrary manner
and rules are framed according to the constitution

Also please remember that Hindus are NOT a monolithic community
there are all shades of Hindus ; liberal ;secular ; conservative etc

If a Communal minded minister TRIES to run his / her agenda then
he or she will be opposed by the bureaucracy and when such
communal activities will be leaked to the press ; then there will be a big uproar

The earlier attempts of saffronisation of education were strongly opposed
by the bureaucracy ; media ; and the people in general

India has ENOUGH Institutional Checks and Balances to keep such elements in check

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And there are also many thousands of Indian nationalists who laid their lives for their country without chanting these words. And it is not a per-requisite that one has to chant a specific term to become a patriot. I know about Ram and Ramayana(flying chariots and stuff) but I would want to know the literal meaning of word "Ram"...

No. Not thousands. Vande Mataram is a central aspect to Indian nationalism - accepting the supremacy of the Motherland, the nation.

I am too puny to define him for you. You have make your own discovery. And forget about 'chariots and stuff'. Read it again.

 

[Bong]

Why all should be sons of Ram? This is a false statement according to Hindu perspective also.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Why all should be sons of Ram? This is a false statement according to Hindu perspective also.

It's a metaphor.

Gandhiji is called the Father of the Nation.

I assure you, he did not have anything to do with my family. Don't take things literally.

 

[Bong]

It's a metaphor.

Gandhiji is called the Father of the Nation.

I assure you, he did not have anything to do with my family. Don't take things literally.

Brahma could be more meaningful for this position.

 

[pursuit of happiness]

New Delhi: Minister of State for Food Processing Industries Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti has sparked off a controversy by claiming that everyone including Muslims and Christians are sons of Ram.

While asserting her point and convincing people to vote for the Bharatiya Janata Party, she added that those who do not believe in this ideology, do not belong to India. "It is for you to decide, whether you want to vote for those who believe in Ram or those who are non-believers," she said.

Addressing a gathering in Delhi on Monday, she heaped praises on Prime Minister Narendra Modi for his efficient working style. "Narendra Modi's mantra is not to indulge in corruption and not let others to be a part of it," she said.

However, the BJP leader clarified her point saying, "I was targeting the separatist and anti-national forces. Why are people taking offence to that? What would you say to the people who attacked Parliament? What would you say to the people who attack our borders. All that I have said is that when Indians go abroad they are referred to as 'hindustani'," she said.
The opposition parties have demanded a clarification from the government over the statement and sought Prime Minister Narendra Modi's on it.

Congress leader Randeep Surjewala said, "We condemn the use of words by Sadhvi Niranjan Jyoti. The BJP is practicing politics of division. The Prime Minister should answer this as she belongs to his Cabinet."
Other political also upped the ante against Niranjan Jyoti and called her statement a highly deplorable one.
Biju Janata Dal leader Jay Panda said, "I am saddened to hear the use of this kind of language by a Cabinet minister. It is highly deplorable."

Nationalist Congress Party Majid Memon said, "What the Sadhvi said is inappropriate. It does not matter what a person's religion is."

Muslims, Christians sons of Ram, those who don't believe it should leave India: BJP minister - IBNLive

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why.. why...
why cant these minister work for thir mintry than all this ..
as minister of State for Food Processing Industries .. she should be worried of wastage of food ... food stnadrds ..
export... warashouse ...
ACT on the FACT : Food wastage in India
India wastes Rs 44,000 cr worth food every year
Millions go hungry in India, but food go to waste - Channel NewsAsia
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