Muslims, Christians sons of Ram, those who don't believe it should leave India: BJP minister

[dray]

she only said Delhi will be ruled by Ram jade or haram jade. ...is any one feeling shame being called son of ram..or they like the other way....After apology matter closed. .

That hateful statement automatically implies that those who are not Ram jade are haram jade! What about Indians of other religions? What about those who don't believe in religions? What about the Hindus who don't worship Ram? They are all haram jade? That's the way a minister of the central government of India should talk, or think?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Oh yes Chanting "Vande Mataram" makes one true nationalist LOL... By the way Khuda means God, so God's children I don't think it is wrong in any sense though not sure about the meaning of name "Ram"?

Yes. Thousands of Indian nationalists of all colors and hues died with those sacred words in their mouths. If you are unaware of Ram you need to be educated. Start reading Ramayana. As an Indian it is no harm if you read an Indian epic.

 

[anonymus]

@SarthakGanguly

Pass this idea to RSS/BJP that it should impose a gag order on BJP ministers. They are not the most articulate people in the world, and would bog down Government, if their antics continue. VK Singh's example should become a norm for BJP.

Loose lips, Sinks Ships. Day before yesterday i have read an opinion piece in hindu lamenting about the fact that " BJP ministers speak very less in public especially when some of them are so gaffe prone (sic)".

Sickular ( ie communal towards majority ) media is still out with their hatchets to get BJP/RSS.

 

[Saheli]

That hateful statement automatically implies that those who are not Ram jade are haram jade! What about Indians of other religions? What about those who don't believe in religions? What about the Hindus who don't worship Ram? They are all haram jade? That's the way a minister of the central government of India should talk, or think?

I think it was an appropriate comment from a Hindutva perspective. We believe adharmis have destroyed this country. That qualifies them as haramzade.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I think it was an appropriate comment from a Hindutva perspective. We believe adharmis have destroyed this country. That qualifies them as haramzade.

Dharmis have also not put a good example in front of the general public. Until and unless that happens, it is not possible to change public opinion. Also calling anyone 'haramzade' is deeply offensive and insulting. It alienates people, rather than let them in.

@SarthakGanguly

Pass this idea to RSS/BJP that it should impose a gag order on BJP ministers. They are not the most articulate people in the world, and would bog down Government, if their antics continue. VK Singh's example should become a norm for BJP.

Loose lips, Sinks Ships. Day before yesterday i have read an opinion piece in hindu lamenting about the fact that " BJP ministers speak very less in public especially when some of them are so gaffe prone (sic)".

Sickular ( ie communal towards majority ) media is still out with their hatchets to get BJP/RSS.

Yes. I agree. These ministers have got a job to do. Loose comments like these only waste their time. A lot of good work is being done. Millions of new bank accounts that will naturally bring about a social revolution by cutting out the money lenders, new industries, greater defence preparedness, greater cooperation with other countries, especially to the East, new Railway lines to the North East, a new sanitation drive etc etc.

 

[dray]

First of all Explain me what is Hinduism Extremism ???

Let me explain, take the example of visible form of cancer, like mouth cancer or inflammatory breast cancer, at stage one they look nothing serious, just a small patch of light red or mild rash, or a mosquito bite, but if you fail to notice it on time then it grows and at one point becomes uncontrolable and incurable, at stage four it becomes horrible to even look at. A stage 1 cancer and stage 4 cancer may not look similar from any angle, but make no mistake; they both are cancer!

Let's say Hindu extremism is at stage 1, looks barely anything to worry about, and looks very different from the Islamic extremism in some other countries that have reached stage 4 with state patronage, but make no mistake; it will become uncontrolable and ugly if we ignore its presence, and state patronage will only make things worse. This I would like to say to @SarthakGanguly and many others also who don't see the similarities between the two and only focus on the differences which is present at this moment.

 

[Saheli]

Dharmis have also not put a good example in front of the general public. Until and unless that happens, it is not possible to change public opinion. Also calling anyone 'haramzade' is deeply offensive and insulting. It alienates people, rather than let them in.

I have no idea of any Dharmis behaving irresponsibly. Public perception has been molded by adharmis and it is not going to be changed by mollycoddling them. BJP should behave as is natural for BJP to behave, that is its USP. I would not have voted for BJP if it was going to play chicken. It is better to let shallow people be alienated then get them along.

 

[Infinity]

Dear Sadhvi Minister,

Where should i Go.................................?????

 

[Saheli]

Let me explain, take the example of visible form of cancer, like mouth cancer or inflammatory breast cancer, at stage one they look nothing serious, just a small patch of light red or mild rash, or a mosquito bite, but if you fail to notice it on time then it grows and at one point becomes uncontrolable and incurable, at stage four it becomes horrible to even look at. A stage 1 cancer and stage 4 cancer may not look similar from any angle, but make no mistake; they both are cancer!

Let's say Hindu extremism is at stage 1, looks barely anything to worry about, and looks very different from the Islamic extremism in some other countries that have reached stage 4 with state patronage, but make no mistake; it will become uncontrolable and ugly if we ignore its presence, and state patronage will only make things worse. This I would like to say to @SarthakGanguly and many others also who don't see the similarities between the two and only focus on the differences which is present at this moment.

Wrong analogy. Hindu extremism is like radiochemotherapy. It may kill a few healthy cells, but its primary objective is to kill the cancer like Islamism, Evangelism, and Libtardism.

Dear Sadhvi Minister,

Where should i Go.................................?????

That you should ask the media channels who concocted this angle. She has not asked anyone to leave India.

 

[dray]

I told this earlier, it was just a matter of time.. Some hardliners here were saying that Buddhism and Sikhism will be safe here in Hindu India.. Those two religions will be safe only until Islam and Christianity will be rooted out from this country.. After that they will turn the gun towards these two religion.. Every radical organisations behave the same way.. Just look at our neighbors.. First Hindus and Christians, then Ahmedias after that Shias..

This is what I say also, but I would like to add that if remained unchecked, this will go after Hindus also who do not conform to a particular kind of Hinduism, this hatred won't accept the diversity in Hinduism.

Wrong analogy. Hindu extremism is like radiochemotherapy. It may kill a few healthy cells, but its primary objective is to kill the cancer like Islamism, Evangelism, and Libtardism.

I did not expect you to agree with me anyway.

 

[fsayed]

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[SarthakGanguly]

Let me explain, take the example of visible form of cancer, like mouth cancer or inflammatory breast cancer, at stage one they look nothing serious, just a small patch of light red or mild rash, or a mosquito bite, but if you fail to notice it on time then it grows and at one point becomes uncontrolable and incurable, at stage four it becomes horrible to even look at. A stage 1 cancer and stage 4 cancer may not look similar from any angle, but make no mistake; they both are cancer!

Let's say Hindu extremism is at stage 1, looks barely anything to worry about, and looks very different from the Islamic extremism in some other countries that have reached stage 4 with state patronage, but make no mistake; it will become uncontrolable and ugly if we ignore its presence, and state patronage will only make things worse. This I would like to say to @SarthakGanguly and many others also who don't see the similarities between the two and only focus on the differences which is present at this moment.

Wait, I am not against Hindu 'extremism'. I am what you would call an 'extremist'. The level to which I am willing to go is what makes me different. I am as Hindu today as I was when Congress was in power and I will be if the Taliban comes to power(till I am beheaded). Hindu pacifism has resulted in its meek surrender everywhere. I don't want that. When there is injustice to Dharmics, I will do what I can to rememdy the situation.

Let me give some examples of extremists -
Extremist Buddhist/Tibetan - self immolates himself in front of Chinese embassy
Extremist Jain - does not open his mouth in the fear of ingesting an insect.
Extremist Hindu - says that all are children of Ram.
Extremist - Blows up people for drawing cartoons.

You are actually seeing Hindu extremism as a nascent mirror image of Islamic extremism. But for both to be equal, the dogma ie Hinduism and Islam has to be similar. And that is where the difference lies. I will urge you to study scholars of comparative religion.

Calling this as stage one is also juvenile. We are a Dharmic majority nation. If we want we can impose our writ anytime. The RSS alone numbers above 10 million, and with similar groups will reach above 40 million. Most of the Indian institutions from the defence to research to business is full of men and women who are either a part of us or support us. If we wanted we could have done anything. If we haven't know for sure, we have no such designs.

 

[Saheli]

This is what I say also, but I would like to add that if remained unchecked, this will go after Hindus also who do not conform to a particular kind of Hinduism, this hatred won't accept the diversity in Hinduism.



I did not expect you to agree with me anyway.

Rather it is Hindutvas who are the most accepting of diversity which is why they fight the libtards who were out to eliminate the variations in Hinduism and make it a monotheistic religion.

I know you know I won't agree with you. It was general educational statement I provide for greenhorns here so that they correct their course

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I told this earlier, it was just a matter of time.. Some hardliners here were saying that Buddhism and Sikhism will be safe here in Hindu India.. Those two religions will be safe only until Islam and Christianity will be rooted out from this country.. After that they will turn the gun towards these two religion.. Every radical organisations behave the same way.. Just look at our neighbors.. First Hindus and Christians, then Ahmedias after that Shias..

He is lying through his teeth. The clashes are political and not religious. The Badals and the rest are in a turf war. If you want to see their respective faiths, fine, but it has got nothing to do with religion. There are political conflicts everywhere. By his logic in Goa the Hindus are pitted agains the Christians, Hindus against Muslims in West Bengal and Assam and so on.

 

[dray]

Wrong analogy. Hindu extremism is like radiochemotherapy. It may kill a few healthy cells, but its primary objective is to kill the cancer like Islamism, Evangelism, and Libtardism.

And btw, if we consider our country a civilized one with rule of law, then strong and just law and order should do the job of radiochemotherapy, not Hindutva.