Muslim gymnast criticised for 'revealing' costume as she wins double-gold!

[TankMan]

But it is OK for men to do so? In say, boxing? Or gymnastics? Surely they can wear a light t-shirt when boxing?

The same applies here. Men's torsos don't need to be covered because they don't have sexual organs there. However, the lower body does need to be covered from down to the knees. The basic principles are the same for both genders, but biological differences change their implementation.

Bro, I appreciate your loyalty towards your religion ( this comes from an atheist ) but South East Asian Muslims are not the same compared with Middle East or South Asia.

Moreover, in Malaysia women wear head scarf also known as tTudong and not the infamous burqa. They are just not the same

PS: Google for Malaysian Airline air hostess

I have no issue with Malaysia being more liberal. What I am stating is my opinion, based on the religion of Islam, nothing else. Like I said, they have the freedom of choice.

South Asian Muslims aren't too extreme with Burkas either. In fact, a very small number of Pakistani women wear burkas, and a growing number have stopped wearing Hijabs. All you need to do is have a look at Pakistani news presenters to gauge what is becoming normal, but if you want to see the more liberal side, there are fashion shows and whatnot.

I don't agree with most of what goes on in the latter, from a religious and moral perspective, but again, it's their choice and all I can do about it is express my disagreement.

So why is it that no cleric bleats about dress code when men do not cover their knees?

I've heard many of them complaining about how increasingly shameless young men are becoming, but they don't get news coverage when they say things like that. It's only when they talk about women that the entire media goes crazy. Works both ways.

Where is the outrage?

Where is the outrage here? Nobody is outraged. A cleric is expressing his opinion, and so are people on an internet forum. There is no ''outrage'' in the case of the women either. Just some disagreement.

 

[Beast]

Not yet. But it isn't their clothing that prevents them from it. If all you had to do to get a Gold or First was get half naked, those awards would have no value.

Come on, those special clothing do help in some sense of better performance. Those sportsmen wear those clothes not for publicity but it really helps in their performance. That is why they never get first with those improper sport attire.

 

[TankMan]

Come on, those special clothing do help in some sense of better performance. Those sportsmen wear those clothes not for publicity but it really helps in their performance. That is why they never get first with those improper sport attire.

Special clothing probably helps, not having any clothing on your legs probably doesn't make a difference. Like I said, you can find very special, flexible and comfortable clothing for sport that is modest and works just as well.

 

[ayesha.a]

I've heard many of them complaining about how increasingly shameless young men are becoming, but they don't get news coverage when they say things like that. It's only when they talk about women that the entire media goes crazy. Works both ways.

Oh, please. Generic statements like "young men are so shameless these days" is not the same thing as a remark about a particular individual, like Sania Mirza or this lady. Has any cleric or other morality peddler named and shamed Ahmad Asman (whose pic I posted above), or other men for not following the prescribed dress code? Saying that the media doesn't report it, is a complete cop out. It is a fact that women feel pressured to conform, much more than men.

Where is the outrage here? Nobody is outraged. A cleric is expressing his opinion, and so are people on an internet forum. There is no ''outrage'' in the case of the women either. Just some disagreement.

OK, replace the word "outrage" with "concern" or "disagreement" or whatever you want to call it. Why doesn't this "disagreement" happen when male sportspersons violate that oh-so-important dress code?

 

[TankMan]

Oh, please. Generic statements like "young men are so shameless these days" is not the same thing as a remark about a particular individual, like Sania Mirza or this lady.

What about a generic statement using particular individuals as examples of said shamelessness?

Saying that the media doesn't report it, is a complete cop out.

It is a fact.

It is a fact that women feel pressured to conform, much more than men.

Societal pressure is something abstract, and not something that can be measured objectively. Therefore it is not a fact, just an opinion. One woman might feel pressured, another might not.

OK, replace the word "outrage" with "concern" or "disagreement" or whatever you want to call it. Why doesn't this "disagreement" happen when male sportspersons violate that oh-so-important dress code?

It happens.

 

[ayesha.a]

. Men's torsos don't need to be covered because they don't have sexual organs there. However, the lower body does need to be covered from down to the knees. The basic principles are the same for both genders, but biological differences change their implementation.

BTW, women don't have sexual organs on their torso either.

 

[TankMan]

BTW, women don't have sexual organs on their torso either.

They do.
Sexual Wiring of Women's Breasts - Neuroscientists establish breasts as sexual organs | Psychology Today

 

[ayesha.a]

What about a generic statement using particular individuals as examples of said shamelessness?

Well, where is it? Did this cleric opine about his countryman Ahmad Asman, who is dressed a lot more immodestly than this lady?

 

[TankMan]

Did this cleric opine about his countryman Ahmad Asman, who is dressed a lot more ommodestly than this lady?

If he did, it wasn't reported. Because nobody cares if it doesn't support their preconceived notions

 

[Cherokee]

The same applies here. Men's torsos don't need to be covered because they don't have sexual organs there. However, the lower body does need to be covered from down to the knees. The basic principles are the same for both genders, but biological differences change their implementation.

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Since when did Breasts became sexual organ ??

Female sexual organs | Understanding your body | Sexual Health | SexualityandU

Sex organ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ayesha.a]

They do.
Sexual Wiring of Women's Breasts - Neuroscientists establish breasts as sexual organs | Psychology Today

"Sexual organ" is supposed to mean something that is part of the process of reproduction. What this article is talking about is that women can be stimulated sexually by contact at the breasts - which means that it is an erogenous zone, not that it is a sex organ. The byline of that article is inaccurate.

Anyway, in your post too, I think what you meant is that it is a region that can stimulate sexual feelings. So we don't really need to argue whether it is a sex organ or not - I just mentioned that as an aside. Yes, women have different upper body anatomy than men. Which is why women in sports almost always cover their breasts. (Yes, I am aware of the American soccer captain who celebrated a goal by taking off her top.)

The point is that it is almost always women's flouting of islamic dress code that seems to send people into fits of concern.

 

[TankMan]

Since when did Breasts became sexual organ ??

Female sexual organs | Understanding your body | Sexual Health | SexualityandU

Sex organ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sexual Wiring of Women's Breasts - Neuroscientists establish breasts as sexual organs | Psychology Today

 

[ayesha.a]

If he did, it wasn't reported. Because nobody cares if it doesn't support their preconceived notions

Right.

 

[Psychic]

Could have done in trousers like men do. But what could one say when the organizers and the oldies with big tummies decide what sports women should wear. They always come up with revealing outfits for women, but not for men. They consider women as sex objects and nothing more.

Why the difference in outfits?

 

[Psychic]

These Mullahs are the biggest Cancer to this Planet .

Why can't they just keep their sh*t to themselves?? why impose it on others?? If they have problem with that lady wearing revealing clothes, just don't watch her perform gymnastics ,simple?? Why doesn't their pea sized brains get this thing ?

There is a difference in giving one's opinion and forcing one's opinion on others.