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Sir scriptures have brought progress and they will bring progress so called freethinking their is nothing more logical than Islam and Quran so called free thinking have promoted nothing and is not the reason for progress in societies

Learn about Renaissance and subsequent Scientific revolution that transformed European Societies.With out freethinking no society will ever progress.

Muhammad bin Qasim did a lot without oil. :cheers:

Are you still living in his age???
 
Learn about Renaissance and subsequent Scientific revolution that transformed European Societies.With out freethinking no society will ever progress.



Are you still living in his age???
Sir Muslims progressed when they followed Islam the most no Muslim can make progress without Islam and even European countries didn't made progress because of pathetic freethinking Sir and Arabians are doing a lot that is why every second India and even many Europeans work in their countries
 
Sir Muslims progressed when they followed Islam the most no Muslim can make progress without Islam and even European countries didn't made progress because of pathetic freethinking Sir and Arabians are doing a lot that is why every second India and even many Europeans work in their countries

Name one world class university in Arab.
 
@Zarvan You mentioned about Kharjite at the time of Prophet Muhammad but I read that Kharijite first appeared at the time of Caliphate of Ali.
 
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Name one world class university in Arab.
Sir these days we don't have but when we ruling the world we gave the most modern sciences Sir including chemistry geography Srugery and Algebra and many other things and those who did this were the most fundamentalist Muslims even Europe accept that Sir they took it from Spain and Muslim countries and that is the reason we need to come back to Islam
Major Muslim Achievements in Science

Muslims translated most of the scientific works of antiquity into Arabic.
Muslim mathematicians devised and developed Algebra.
Al-Khwarazmi used Arabic numerals which came to the West through his work in the 9th century.
Al-Razi described and treated smallpox in the 10th century.
Al-Razi also used alcohol as an antiseptic.
Ibn Sina diagnosed and treated meningitis in the 11th century.
Ibn al-Haytham discovered the Camera Obscura in the 11th century.
Al-Biruni described the Ganges valley as a sedimentary basin in the 11th century.
Muslims built the first observatory as a scientific institution in the 13th century.
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi explained the cause of the rainbow in the 13th century.
Ibn al-Nafis described the minor circulation of the blood in the 14th century.
Al-Kashani invented a computing machine in the 15th century.
 
Sir Muslims progressed when they followed Islam the most no Muslim can make progress without Islam and even European countries didn't made progress because of pathetic freethinking Sir and Arabians are doing a lot that is why every second India and even many Europeans work in their countries

Muslims had a Golden Age when they had free thinking in their society.Now they are backward because they no longer have any free thinking.Indians are working in Arab countries because Arabs are too lazy or incompetent to work.As a result, they are loosing a tremendous amount of their oil wealth to foreign countries in the form of remittances.
 
@Zarvan You mentioned about Kharjite at the time of Prophet Muhammad but I read that Kharijite first appeared at the time of Caliphate of Ali.
No Sir some of them appeared in time of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW but they were not that major group they came in full power in time of HAZRAT ALI RA

Muslims had a Golden Age when they had free thinking in their society.Now they are backward because they no longer have any free thinking.Indians are working in Arab countries because Arabs are too lazy or incompetent to work.As a result, they are loosing a tremendous amount of their oil wealth to foreign countries in the form of remittances.
No Sir when they made progressed they were all hardcore Muslims and used to be very strict on following Islam Sir that is the reason they made progressed not like free thinking which has turned these societies into animals and done nothing else
 
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Medieval Islamic science

[edit]Notable fields of inquiry
The roots of Islamic science drew primarily upon Arab, Persian, Indian and Greek learning. The extent of Islamic scientific achievement is not as yet fully understood, but it is extremely vast.[1]
These achievements encompass a wide range of subject areas; most notably[1]
Mathematics
Astronomy
Medicine
Other notable areas, and specialized subjects, of scientific inquiry include
Physics
Alchemy and chemistry
Cosmology
Ophthalmology
Geography and cartography
Sociology
Psychology
[edit]Notable scientists
In medieval Islam, the sciences, which included philosophy, were viewed holistically. The individual scientific disciplines were approached in terms of their relationships to each other and the whole, as if they were branches of a tree. In this regard, the most important scientists of Islamic civilization have been the polymaths, known as hakim or sages. Their role in the transmission of the sciences was central.[22]
The hakim was most often a poet and a writer, skilled in the practice of medicine as well as astronomy and mathematics. These multi-talented sages, the central figures in Islamic science, elaborated and personified the unity of the sciences. They orchestrated scientific development through their insights, and excelled in their explorations as well.[22]
Jabir ibn Hayyan (ca. 8th – 9th centuries) was an alchemist who used extensive experimentation and produced many works on science and alchemy which have survived to the present day. Jabir described the laboratory techniques and experimental methods of chemistry. He identified many substances including sulfuric and nitric acid. He described processes including sublimation, reduction and distillation. He utilized equipment such as the alembic and the retort. There is considerable uncertainty as to the actual provenance of many works that are ascribed to him.[23][24]


Drawing of Self trimming lamp in Ahmad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir's treatise on mechanical devices. The manuscript was written in Arabic.
The Banu Musa brothers, Jafar-Muhammad, Ahmad and al-Hasan (ca. early 9th century) were three Persian sons of a colorful astronomer and astrologer. They were scholars close to the court of caliph al-Mamun, and contributed greatly to the translation of ancient works into Arabic. They elaborated the mathematics of cones and ellipses, and performed astronomic calculations. Most notably, they contributed to the field of automation with the creations of automated devices such as the ones described in their Book of Ingenious Devices.[25][26][27]
Ibn Ishaq al-Kindi (801–873) was a philosopher and polymath scientist heavily involved in the translation of Greek classics into Arabic. He worked to reconcile the conflicts between his Islamic faith and his affinity for reason; a conflict that would eventually lead to problems with his rulers. He criticized the basis of alchemy and astrology, and contributed to a wide range of scientific subjects in his writings. He worked on cryptography for the caliphate, and even wrote a piece on the subject of time, space and relative movement.[28]


The eye according to Hunain ibn Ishaq. From a manuscript dated circa 1200.
Hunayn ibn Ishaq (809–873) was one of the most important translators of the ancient Greek works into Arabic. He was also a physician and a writer on medical subjects. His translations interpreted, corrected and extended the ancient works. Some of his translations of medical works were used in Europe for centuries. He also wrote on medical subjects, particularly on the human eye. His book Ten Treatises on the Eye was influential in the West until the 17th century.[29]
Abbas ibn Firnas (810–887) was an Andalusian scientist, musician and inventor. He developed a clear glass used in drinking vessels, and lenses used for magnification and the improvement of vision. He had a room in his house where the sky was simulated, including the motion of planets, stars and weather complete with clouds, thunder and lightning. He is most well known for reportedly surviving an attempt at controlled flight.[30]
Thabit ibn Qurra (835–901) was a Sabian translator and mathematician from Harran, in what is now Turkey. He is known for his translations of Greek mathematics and astronomy, but as was common, he also added his own work to the translations. He is known for having calculated the solution to a chessboard problem involving an exponential series.[31]


A page from al-Khwārizmī's Algebra
al-Khwarizmi (ca. 8th–9th centuries) was a Persian mathematician,[32] geographer and astronomer. He is regarded as the greatest mathematician of Islamic civilization.. He was instrumental in the adoption of the Indian numbering system, later known as Arabic numerals. His developed algebra, which also had Indian antecedents, by introducing methods of simplifying the equations. He used Euclidian geometry in his proofs.[33]

al-Battani (850–922) was an astronomer who accurately determined the length of the solar year. He contributed to numeric tables, such as the Tables of Toledo, used by astronomers to predict the movements of the sun, moon and planets across the sky. Some of Battani's astronomic tables were later used by Copernicus. Battani also developed numeric tables which could be used to find the direction of Mecca from different locations. Knowing the direction of Mecca is important for Muslims, as this is the direction faced during prayer.[34]
Abu Bakr Zakariya al-Razi (ca. 854–925/935) was a Persian born in Rey, Iran. He was a polymath who wrote on a variety of topics, but his most important works were in the field of medicine. He identified smallpox and measles, and recognized fever was part of the body's defenses. He wrote a 23-volume compendium of Chinese, Indian, Persian, Syriac and Greek medicine. al-Razi questioned some aspects of the classical Greek medical theory of how the four humors regulate life processes. He challenged Galen's work on several fronts, including the treatment of bloodletting. His trial of bloodletting showed it was effective; a result we now know to be erroneous.[35]
al-Farabi (ca. 870–950) was a Persian/Iranian (born in Farab, Iran) rationalist philosopher and mathematician who attempted to describe, geometrically, the repeating patterns popular in Islamic decorative motifs. His book on the subject is titled Spiritual Crafts and Natural Secrets in the Details of Geometrical Figures.[36]
ibn Sina (Avicenna) (908–946) was a Persian physician, astronomer, physicist and mathematician from Bukhara, Uzbekistan. In addition to his master work, The Canon of Medicine, he also made important astronomical observations, and discussed a variety of topics including the different forms energy can take, and the properties of light. He contributed to the development of mathematical techniques such as Casting out nines.[37]
al-Zahrawi (936–1013) was an Andalusian surgeon who is known as the greatest surgeon of medieval Islam. His most important surviving work is referred to as al-Tasrif (Medical Knowledge). It is a 30 volume set discussing medical symptoms, treatments, and mostly pharmacology, but it is the last volume of the set which has attracted the most attention over time. This last volume is a surgical manual describing surgical instruments, supplies and procedures. Scholars studying this manual are discovering references to procedures previously believed to belong to more modern times.[38]
ibn al-Haytham (965–1040) was an Iranian scientist born in Basra, Iraq (during Iranian Buyid Dynasty) and years later moved to Egypt as an adult. Hasan Haytham worked in several fields, but is now known primarily for his achievements in astronomy and optics. He was an experimentalist who questioned the ancient Greek works of Ptolemy and Galen. At times, al-Haytham suggested Ptolomey's celestial model, and Galen's explanation of vision, had problems. The prevailing opinion of the time, Galen's opinion, was that vision involved transmission of light from the eye, an explanation al-Haytham cast doubt upon. He also studied the effects of light refraction, and suggested the mathematics of reflection and refraction needed to be consistent with the anatomy of the eye.[39]
al-Zarqali (1028–1087) was an Andalusian artisan, skilled in working sheet metal, who became a famous maker of astronomical equipment, an astronomer, and a mathematician. He developed a new design for a highly accurate astrolabe which was used for centuries afterwards. He constructed a famous water clock that attracted much attention in Toledo for centuries. He discovered that the Sun's apogee moves slowly relative to the fixed stars, and obtained a very good estimate[40] for its rate of change.[41]
Omar Khayyam (1048–1131) was a Persian poet and mathematician who calculated the length of the year to within 5 decimal places. He found geometric solutions to all 13 forms of cubic equations. He developed some quadratic equations still in use. He is well known in the West for his poetry (rubaiyat).[42]
al-Idrisi (1100–1166) was a Moroccan traveler, cartographer and geographer famous for a map of the world he created for Roger, the Norman King of Sicily. al-Idrisi also wrote the Book of Roger, a geographic study of the peoples, climates, resources and industries of all the world known at that time. In it, he incidentally relates the tale of a Moroccan ship blown west in the Atlantic, and returning with tales of faraway lands.[43]
ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288) was a physician who was born in Damascus and practiced medicine as head physician at the al-Mansuri hospital in Cairo. He wrote an influential book on medicine, believed to have replaced ibn-Sina's Canon in the Islamic world – if not Europe. He wrote important commentaries on Galen and ibn-Sina's works. One of these commentaries was discovered in 1924, and yielded a description of pulmonary transit, the circulation of blood from the right to left ventricles of the heart through the lungs.[44]
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi (1201–1274) was a Persian astronomer and mathematician whose life was overshadowed by the Mongol invasions of Genghis Khan and his grandson Helagu. al-Tusi wrote an important revision to Ptolemy's celestial model, among other works. When he became Helagu's astrologer, he was furnished with an impressive observatory and gained access to Chinese techniques and observations. He developed trigonometry to the point it became a separate field, and compiled the most accurate astronomical tables available up to that time.[45]
 
Mate I am so sorry.. :cry:

U must be going through alot in India... Affected ur brain huh, being treated worse than a Low cast shudra? :hitwall:

Dont worry, you can migrate to any BACKWARD Muslim country you want, like UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia ;)

You are so right man... those super peaceful countries in the Middle East are the beacons of civilization, modernization, and advancement and Indian Muslims are dying to go there... check it out yourself -

 
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No Sir when they made progressed they were all hardcore Muslims and used to be very strict on following Islam Sir that is the reason they made progressed not like free thinking which has turned these societies into animals and done nothing else

Read all about free thinking in Islamic Golden Age.Muslim scholars of that time were much more progressive than they are today.

Sasha Brookner: The Golden Age of Islam

 
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