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Musharraf Turns An Indian Anchor Into An Epic Goof.

It is what Gen. Musharraf said & I will say the same thing Indian love lies & their media is building up lies always against Pakistan & Pakistan Army.

This will not stop because Indians are snakes & they cannot be trusted one bit, they love lies & everything in their country is build on lies & propaganda.

Hamare liye itna hi part kafi he agar tum log ke liye ye part important nahi he :

Musharraf on Indian Media:
Musharraf : Your Army Cooks Up These Things And Your Media Follows It To Undermine Pakistan Army, Undermine ISI.
Indian Anchor : I Object ..I Object .. I Object
Musharraf : You Can Object But This Is Reality..Thats What Your Media & Your Army Do..
Indian Anchor : Some Day We Will Get A Time From You To Talk About Kargil ..
Musharraf : Then We Will Start From East Pakistan First!

Brother we have a mad & dangerous country on the East who loves to do propaganda & lies against Pakistan & frankly they will do this for ever, worse than that Indian people love these lies & without exploring the truth they believe what their Indian Media says. It is all part of Shining India's scheme.
 
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Hamare liye itna hi part kafi he agar tum log ke liye ye part important nahi he :

Musharraf on Indian Media:
Musharraf : Your Army Cooks Up These Things And Your Media Follows It To Undermine Pakistan Army, Undermine ISI.
Indian Anchor : I Object ..I Object .. I Object
Musharraf : You Can Object But This Is Reality..Thats What Your Media & Your Army Do..
Indian Anchor : Some Day We Will Get A Time From You To Talk About Kargil ..
Musharraf : Then We Will Start From East Pakistan First!

This part was just great.
 
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There was a recent ticker on the news channels that Musharraf leaves Indian news anchor speechless. During the headlines, I recognized that it was Goswami from Times now interviewing him on the matter of LOC. Can anyone post-links since i could find the video anywhere. Thanks

[video]http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Cant-imagine-Pak-army-being-involved-in-killing-of-Indian-jawans-Musharraf/videoshow/18080235.cms[/video]

I saw that interview . Retd. Gen Mushraff said following :-

1. I cant imagine somebody doing such act of beheading a soldier .
2. According to me , if some person of PA have done this , he would have been court marshalled .

3. Dont portray us as mad people , we are not mad .

4. If beheadings have taken place , then this is a very inexcusible offence and it should be punished to highest degree.

he also rubbished the fact that a man named Ilyas Kashmiri beheaded an indian soldier and paraded in front of PA Generals . He said that PA and Pakistan government would not have asked for it neither they would have awarded Ilyas Kashmiri for it .

The interviewer Mr Arnab Goswami was asking some tough questions to Gen Mushraff . Now, its the task of the reporter to ask questions in such a way that the person being interviwed has to speak up . Also ,Whatever Goswami was asking were not only his concerns , they were whole India's concerns . And Gen Mushraff defended PA well .

Both men are justifed in what they said .

Also would like to mention that this was a very professional interview and no boundries were crossed .
 
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It is what Gen. Musharraf said & I will say the same thing Indian love lies & their media is building up lies always against Pakistan & Pakistan Army.

This will not stop because Indians are snakes & they cannot be trusted one bit, they love lies & everything in their country is build on lies & propaganda.



Brother we have a mad & dangerous country on the East who loves to do propaganda & lies against Pakistan & frankly they will do this for ever, worse than that Indian people love these lies & without exploring the truth they believe what their Indian Media says. It is all part of Shining India's scheme.

Some points :-

1. Indian media is not Indian people . Media is run by business houses , they know they have to keep things warm so that they cn make money. So they portray stories in such a way that it looks like a movie . Pakistan media is also not a 'clear water' .

2. Common Indian has nothing to do with Pakistan . Why would he care when he himself has to care for many things (bank loans, family , friends , work life etc etc ) . So if you think that common Indian keeps on thinking ill of Pakistan , you are very wrong .

3. Both the countries have attacked each other through propaganda war and leaders are responsible ( not citizens ) .

4. Contrary to your belief , Indians are themselves tired of the media . Do you think that Indians just believe everything that media says . Indians dont love lies and are ready to accept truth .
 
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End of the say it's the words of a TV anchor against the words of a fugitive dictator - a dictator on the run who is wanted for murder, this guy gets routinely laughed at and ridiculed by Pakistani and Afghani students on live TV - unfortunately the TV anchor can't do that to his guest or else he would have been laughed at out of the room for his antics.
 
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i thought arna goswami screwed musharraf.. musharraf first said that he doesnt have the fact.. in the end he is saying that arnab is a liar as nothing happened..
lol.. mushy ko gussa aaya
 
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End of the say it's the words of a TV anchor against the words of a fugitive dictator - a dictator on the run who is wanted for murder, this guy gets routinely laughed at and ridiculed by Pakistani and Afghani students on live TV - unfortunately the TV anchor can't do that to his guest or else he would have been laughed at out of the room for his antics.

Go learn the definition of fugitive.

He is an accused, not a convict, he's living in broad daylight, every morning you can see him do laps around around the Burj Khalifa, Dubai when hes there.

i thought arna goswami screwed musharraf.. musharraf first said that he doesnt have the fact.. in the end he is saying that arnab is a liar as nothing happened..
lol.. mushy ko gussa aaya

He didn't say Arnab is a liar - he meant you as in YOU INDIANS, or specifically the arbitrators of this Indian POV, even more specifically the govermnet, Indian Army or both.
 
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Go learn the definition of fugitive.

He is an accused, not a convict, he's living in broad daylight, every morning you can see him do laps around around the Burj Khalifa, Dubai when hes there.



He didn't say Arnab is a liar - he meant you as in YOU INDIANS, or specifically the arbitrators of this Indian POV, even more specifically the govermnet, Indian Army or both.
either way he contracdicted himself when he started off by saying that he did not have facts on the beheading and ending by saying that indians are lying in this regard ( an assertion that can only me true if he has any facts which he doesnt)
 
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either way he contracdicted himself when he started off by saying that he did not have facts on the beheading and ending by saying that indians are lying in this regard ( an assertion that can only me true if he has any facts which he doesnt)

He did not have facts, but he did have opinions.

If you keep asking a guy what happened, who says he does not have the facts, then you are asking for his opinion.

He gave logical arguments for his opinions and brought out the illogical nature of the fiction that's passed as fact within India.
 
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either way he contracdicted himself when he started off by saying that he did not have facts on the beheading and ending by saying that indians are lying in this regard ( an assertion that can only me true if he has any facts which he doesnt)

He said he didn't have facts on the current accusations but since the anchor in desperation was digressing and seeking shelter by dragging in all other issues, like claiming about another beheading by Ilyas Kasmiri during Musharaff's tenure, the general then set about putting the host in his place by correcting all assertions extending to the fact that the IA and media stage manage these kinds of headline grabbing incidents in vain effort to malign PA and ISI......in short the General called out your bluff leaving you exposed. !!
 
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Arnab Goswami is an idiot, Musharraf just revealed his true colors. Kind of like a litmus test...
 
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He said he didn't have facts on the current accusations but since the anchor in desperation was digressing and seeking shelter by dragging in all other issues, like claiming about another beheading by Ilyas Kasmiri during Musharaff's tenure, the general then set about putting the host in his place by correcting all assertions extending to the fact that the IA and media stage manage these kinds of headline grabbing incidents in vain effort to malign PA and ISI......in short the General called out your bluff leaving you exposed. !!

He did not set anything...he was just hurling accusations...the only thing he exposed himself hus pathetic argument skills...Frankly we indians are laughing...how that desperate, degenerate can become a general in Pakistan army..no wonder he got spanked in Kargil and Siachen..and led thousands of Pakistanis to their graves...

And dont worry ..PA and ISI does not need India to malign then....their actions like hiding Osama, Ilyas Kashmiri etc..shows the world what kind of organisation they are...

Arnab Goswami is an idiot, Musharraf just revealed his true colors. Kind of like a litmus test...

no..the only thing Musharraf revealed is his stupidity and his skill of whining like a fisherman's wife in fish market..Only shouting India did this ..India did that...

Arnab is a genious...he did exactly what a journalist should do....he light a match stick and waited for the general to explode...
 
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He did not set anything...he was just hurling accusations...the only thing he exposed himself hus pathetic argument skills...Frankly we indians are laughing...how that desperate, degenerate can become a general in Pakistan army..no wonder he got spanked in Kargil and Siachen..and led thousands of Pakistanis to their graves...

And dont worry ..PA and ISI does not need India to malign then....their actions like hiding Osama, Ilyas Kashmiri etc..shows the world what kind of organisation they are...

Once a Pakistani man whacks an Indian guy right across the face, a little dazed the Indian inquires from the Pakistani man.... was that a joke or are you serious ?.... Pakistani replies i am damn serious angry and annoyed at you.....the Indian replies, that's quite alight then, since i don't like these types of jokes........ hence you are no exception. Once cornered and put to the sword, a person usually has a wry smile on his face.... or worse still as happened this time, quickly call it a day to save further humiliation.
As for you trying to create some brownie points, the General did once reveal how he was amazed to hear on the wireless about the Indians staging a fake encounter on Siachin thus proceeding to destroy one of their own bunkers while getting a subordinate to film the whole show...... no doubt mention Indian army and the term Fake encounters just pops up.
 
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This thread is yet another example of why Indians and Pakistanis cannot have sane discussion about serious issues.

I have watched the video and sorry to say that our guy, ex-Prez Musharraf lost his cool. At many instances he was no better than our top intellectual (NOT!) his highness Sheeda Tulli (or Izzat Maa=aab Sh Rasheed Pindi walay).

Prez should have known better. TV news anchors these days (or any day) are there not to look for truth, no Siree.

TV news anchors go almost mad to keep their ratings up. The ratings must be kept up otherwise who will pay for the big fat salaries and perks of the TV staff. Who will.

From Pakistani POV, Indian man on the street is looking for few things.

1. Pakistan is as good neighbor as anyone else.
2. Pakistan is 1000 more beneficial to India than any other country in the region.

India being 10+ times bigger will have this attitude whether we like it or not.

I mean heck, we should see how we react to Afghanistanis who are 10+ times smaller than us. How?

We ask the same two questions over and over and over and over and over about Afghanistan too. We may not articulate the same way, but these two very questions are on our mind when we think of Afghanistan.

Then why on earth we won't accord the same decency to our Eastern neighbor.

Oh yeah. Sure they are bullies in the area. They don't treat us well.

I mean look at majority of posters on this Pakistani forum, and see how with few exceptions, Indian posters bully and push us around.

So on PDF, we can use the anonymity to curse back the bullies. But we can't and should not do so on an open public forum like TV interview.

Why?

Because we immediately get painted as mad Mullahs (with or without beard) from the tribal bad lands of the Middle East, with zero civilization and shunni civilized behavior.


And Prez Musharraf to an unemotional and balanced eye from Pakistan, comes across like a mad man frothing on his mouth.

This is way below his stature as an ex-President of 200 million people, way below the stature of our top army general.



Take the case of the accusation of body mutilations and dead soldiers. This obviously is highly offensive accusation to a Pakistani general. Extremely offensive dare I say.

But the answer to such accusation in public arena is not to froth from the mouth, climb the walls, and threaten and cry.

No Sir. This is the time to calmly put forward the official policy regarding dead bodies. The common cultural attitudes in India and in Pakistan when it comes to handling dead bodies. The common history of the two armies that goes back 200+ years and thus mutual regards among officers and jawans.

What Prez. Musharraf should have said (calmly) to this 2-bit lowly anchor is the following.


1. I am ex-President and top general of Pak army.
2. We may kill or injure Indian army officers or jawans during the time of war

But

3. For POWs and dead soldiers, we have utmost regard, as if they are our own sons and our own people.
---- BTW these are not my words but many Pakistani generals said this on different occasions.

4. If any of our soldier or officer commits a crime while dealing with Indian POWs and dead bodies, we have procedures in place to severely punish the culprit and kick him out of our army, because we don't want anyone to bring the reputation down of our premier institution.

5. And we have received the same response as #3 and #4 from Indian officers and jawans when it comes to Pakistani POWs and dead soldiers and we expect the same will be done in future as well.

6. So my dear anchor, Indians and Pakistani civilians can (they should not, by the way) rubbish each other, but we will never do such a thing or allow such a thing among our armies. We may fight during the day, but when the war is over, we will sit on a table and have chai and samosa and biscuit together.

7. Given a chance, I Prez Musharraf will personally express my condolences to the families of Indian soldiers who got injured or died as a result of a skirmish on the Pakistani border. As a general both Pakistani and Indian young officers and soldiers are like my own family my own sons who just happen to be on the opposite side of a border.

8. In future, we can always use a UN observer team to monitor when bodies are exchanged. This way we make sure that such accusations will never come up. NEVER!


And this stance would have come across positively to an average Indian AND non Indian viewer.



On the same note, Indians too should observe some minimum level of decorum when it comes to our soldiers. These are the creme of our two nations. Both Indians and Pakistanis should not sully their name or their dead bodies in an effort to take cheap political shots at each other.


peace
 
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4. If any of our soldier or officer commits a crime while dealing with Indian POWs and dead bodies, we have procedures in place to severely punish the culprit and kick him out of our army, because we don't want anyone to bring the reputation down of our premier institution.

Well TBH he did say that...
 
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