Wow, you Pakistanis surely have a world of your own.
Not much I can expect from the likes of Zaid Hamid. Who thinks "Kasab is Amar Singh, a Sikh"..HAHA.
1947, 1965, 1999, Operation Safed Sagar. We beat you, in everything!. I mean for god's sake, try and type keywords "Indo-Pak wars" and see what you cant believe.
And FYI, after 1965 war, you were left with only 50% of your army, look up the facts before blabering. Your much loved Nawaz, said if a real conflict had broken out after Kargil, you coudnt even last 6 days before fuel ran out. And he wet his pants when it came to mentioning the scenario when IN had moved to cutoff all your fuel routes.
Again denial is a culture it seems in Pakistan.
Patriotism is good but being blind is not!
This is from Wikipedia alone even though I hate Wikipedia but at this moment cannot be bothered to enlighten you any further:
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Indo-Pakistani War of 1947: Also called the First Kashmir War. The war started in October 1947 when the Maharajah of the princely state of Kashmir and Jammu had failed to accede to either of the newly independent states of Pakistan or India. Armed forces of India attacked and occupied the princely state, forcing the Maharajah to sign the "Agreement to the accession of the princely state to India". When the Maharaja resisted, India airlifted troops to Srinagar where they engaged in a military encounter with local Kashmiri Rebels who wanted the Kashmir to be a part of Pakistan. British appointed Army Chief of Pakistan Douglas Gracey did not send troops to the Kashmir front and refused to obey the order to do so given by Mohammad Ali Jinnah, Governor-General of Pakistan. His argument was that the Indian forces occupying Kashmir represented the British Crown and so did he hence he could not engage in a military encounter with Indian forces. Due to Gracey's disobedience Pakistan lost two third of Kashmir to India. The United Nations was then invited by Pakistan to mediate the quarrel. The UN mission insisted that the opinion of Kashmiris must be ascertained, The UN Security Council passed Resolution 47 on April 21, 1948. The resolution stated "that the final disposition of the State of Jammu and Kashmir will be made in accordance with the will of the people expressed through the democratic method of a free and impartial plebiscite conducted under the auspices of the United Nations".[citation needed] India insisted that no referendum could occur because they could lose Kashmir to Pakistan due to large Muslim Population. The war ended in December 1948 with the Line of Control dividing the erstwhile princely state into territories administered by Pakistan (northern and western areas) and India (southern, central and northeastern areas).
Indo-Pakistani War of 1965: Also called The Second Kashmir War, started following of Pakistan's Operation Gibraltar, which was designed to infiltrate forces into Jammu and Kashmir to precipitate an insurgency against rule by India. India retaliated by launching an attack on Pakistan thus igniting the war. The five-week war caused thousands of casualties on both sides and was witness to the largest tank battle in military history since World War II. India took a historical beating by the hands of the Pakistani army. Even today Indias top military thinker Ravi Rikhye admits that Khem Karan had the potential to be Indias Fourth Battle of Panipat. It ended in a United Nations (UN) mandated ceasefire and the subsequent issuance of the Tashkent Declaration.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1971: The third war was unique in that it did not involve the issue of Kashmir, but was rather precipitated by the crisis brewing in East Pakistan. After months of internal conflict, Bengali-majority East Pakistan wanted to break away from Pakistan and demanded independence. India saw this as an oppurtuinty to take revenge and sent their trained terrorists called Mukti Bahini across the border into East Pakistan much to the consternation of West Pakistan. Mukti Bahini acted as fuel to fire in the movement of civil disobedience by carrying out various terrorist activites and blamed them on Pakistani Armed forces such as the alleged large-scale genocidal atrocities[1][2][3]. Pakistani forces trapped in East Pakistan with supplies becoming scarce surrendered on the eastern front. The war resulted in the creation of Bangladesh. This war, saw the highest number of casualties in any of the India-Pakistan conflicts, as well as the largest number of Prisoners of War since the Second World War after the surrender of nearly 90,000 Pakistani troops and civilians. It is believed that 1,000,000-3,000,000 Bangladeshis were killed as a result of this war.
Indo-Pakistani War of 1999: Also known as Kargil War is considered a minor war because fighting was limited to a single front in Kashmir; though it produced stirring emotions between the two nations involved, coming at a time of increased media and electronic coverage. This was the second and most recent ground war between any two nations after they had developed nuclear weapons, after the Sino-Soviet border conflict. Pakistani troops along with Kashmiri insurgents occupied Indian army posts across the Line of Control (LoC) and began shelling Indian positions. If Pakistan had been able to capture Kargil they could easily take Kashmir but United States intervened hence Pakistan was forced to draw its forces back across the LoC."
You mean like in 1965 when PAF had an attrition rate of 2.16 compared to IAF's 1.45? You mean like in 1971 when IAF changed the face of East Pakistan? Or you mean like the time during Kargil? When IAF had BVR and cud lock on to inferior PAF fleet, forcing them to disengage and giving IAF complete Air superiority?
Now dont tell me that you have BVR now so you can fight or atleast take your jets up in the sky, you may have got BVR in 21st century, but by 2009 we have a lot more.
No I mean like in 1965 when PAF shot down over 100 Indian Jets while losing only around 30 of her own. And in 1971 when IAF destroyed only grounded planes in west Pakistan while losing almost every dogfight in eastern Pakistan, must I advise you that in 1971 because of mutiny PAF in west Pakistan wasn't allowed to man their planes!
And in 1999 Pakistan Military did not actively participate the the conflict, the purpose of Kargil episode was to get the world's attention towards a very real problem in Kashmir dispute, almost the only major issue because of which we have fought 3 wars. You have forced me to shame you by reminding you that a handful of Mujahideen not only kept the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force at bay but also held their ground until you begged the US and UNO to intervene which politically forced Pakistan to stop supplies to the Mujahideen who eventually had to retreat as their ammo depleted and supplies exhausted. The only victory you can really enjoy was murdering the retreating Mujahideen who had nothing left to fight back with!
In honesty the handful of Mujahideen raped your Army mostly because of their strategic location and passion till they ran out of support and supplies. Well if all the above makes you proud then be it.
Seriously dude? What world do you live in?
Aah *sigh* ........ sadly not the same as yours.