Mumbai Attacks

[linkinpark]

we are educated people, we all want to have the full details about the attack, am I right?

then how about having a discussion on why those Muslims would like to carrier out such an attack against India? maybe because of the wide crimes against Muslims in India just like what you saw in the Slumdog Millionaire?

please don't just stop at the first half which looks in your favor, tell me the whole story and I will show you why you are the trouble maker.

Those Muslims are Pakistani terrorists and has nothing to do with Indian Muslims, their only aim is to cause damage to the country and create fear for the foreign investors to invest in India. Stay on topic. If you want to discuss about why they attacked in a larger sense open another thread.

 

[roadrunner]

^^ If Pakistan wants to destabilize India and blow up its investments it wouldn't just do one lousy attack which would leave Pakistan's fingerprints over everything!!

This plot was hatched in India and carried out with the cooperation of the Indian police.

 

[linkinpark]

^^ If Pakistan wants to destabilize India and blow up its investments it wouldn't just do one lousy attack which would leave Pakistan's fingerprints over everything!!

This plot was hatched in India and carried out with the cooperation of the Indian police.

People who view the world with blinkers that suit their psychology cannot be convinced (no matter what) even with the acceptance of GoP that the plan was hatched in Pakistan and the terrorists involved in the attack were from Pakistan. I guess you can say now GoP is being paid by RAW.

 

[Rehmat]

A western media report has claimed that the last year's terror attacks on the Indian city of Mumbai were partly planned in the US.

Gunmen behind Mumbai raids used cell phones that were activated in the US and paid for with funds sent from Italy Corriere della Sera reported Tuesday.

The revelation comes after New Delhi sent the intelligence information to some Western countries so investigators could expose any ties to the network behind the November raids.

The Italian daily said that the Italian security forces were also investigating a wire transfer sent to the US from the northern Italian city of Brescia.

The message was sent by a Pakistani- suspect, named as Javaid Iqbal. Iqbal also sent the funds via Western Union to pay for five cell phones with Austrian country codes.

But the cell phones were activated in the US by an American company and registered to an Indian citizen, it said.

Based on the report, at least three of these phones were used by the militants during the Mumbai siege.

"Everything is being registered by the media. You must inflict the maximum damage. Fight to the end. Don't leave any survivors," read one of the excerpts, in a call to an attacker at the Trident-Oberoi hotel.

India has highlighted the importance of cell phone communication between the plotters and militants carrying out the attacks.

Relations between Islamabad and New Delhi have worsened in the aftermath of the Mumbai terror raids, in which 179 people were killed including nine militants.

Washington and New Delhi have been maintaining that the Mumbai terror attack plan was hatched in Pakistan.

Following an investigation earlier this month, Pakistan's interior ministry admitted for the first time that the raids were partly hatched on its soil.

Islamabad, however, has denied any involvement by Pakistani state agencies and says it is building a case against Pakistani 'non-state actors' accused of involvement in the raids.

SOURCE

 

[shchinese]

Those Muslims are Pakistani terrorists and has nothing to do with Indian Muslims, their only aim is to cause damage to the country and create fear for the foreign investors to invest in India. Stay on topic. If you want to discuss about why they attacked in a larger sense open another thread.

you didn't answer my question - why those terrorists are targeting india? not other countries?

we all know the goal of terrorism, but why against india?

 

[linkinpark]

you didn't answer my question - why those terrorists are targeting india? not other countries?

we all know the goal of terrorism, but why against india?

It is not just India which is victim of the terrorist, there are several countries. Did you forget Terrorism in Xinxiang before Olympics. Don't divert the topic.

 

[was]

continue bark you indians forget about crippling ISI and operate freely to treat pakistan like nepal, isi will stay and **** RAW's *** and take you indains at bay

 

[ejaz007]

MUMBAI: Indian police have accused a Pakistan Army official of involvement in the Mumbai attacks, a Times Online report said.

Colonel R Sadatullah’s name has appeared in the 11,200-page document that lists the charges against Ajmal Kasab, the sole surviving gunman in the attacks.

Colonel Sadatullah is believed to be a serving officer in the Pakistan Army’s Special Communications Organisation, the report said.

The document alleges the use of an official government email account linked to Sadatullah to have been used for the purpose.

Rakesh Maria, the officer heading the investigation, confirmed that the officer is wanted for questioning, the report said.

Maria told Times Online that another army officer (who is referred to as ‘major general’ in telephone calls between the gunmen who orchestrated the attacks and their alleged handlers in Pakistan) is involved.

DAWN.COM | World | Pak Army colonel ?involved? in Mumbai attacks: Rakesh Maria

 

[Patriot]

Woah, A Major General plotted this plan and left so many footprints.This Major General must be a villain in Bollywood.

 

[jeypore]

More serving Pakistani army officers may be named as conspirators in the Mumbai terror attacks, according to officials dealing with the case, after an 11,509-page charge sheet identified two high-ranking Pakistani military personnel who directed militants during the three-day killing spree.

Police in India named Colonel R Sadatullah of the Pakistani army's Special Communications Organisation (SCO) as part of the conspiracy to attack India's financial centre – a bloody rampage that left more than 170 people dead. Investigators said his email account was used to set up the "voice over internet" system – which allows calls to be made over the web.

Today Indian television contacted Sadatullah after being given his number by the Pakistani army switchboard. He hung up. Another accused is known as "Major General Sahab", whose title is used repeatedly in the taped conversation between the gunmen and their handlers.

The general manager of the SCO is Major General Muhammad Khalid Rao, an expert on China who joined the corps in 1979. The SCO operates only on the Pakistani side of the Himalayan region of Kashmir – which is claimed by both Pakistan and India.

Brigadier Azmat Ali, Pakistan's army spokesperson, said the "charge sheet does not accurately identify army men allegedly linked to 26/11. There are many Colonel Sadatullahs in the Pakistan army."

Speaking on condition of anonymity, Indian officials said "it was not a good sign to see this kind of response from the Pakistani army … supplementary charge sheets will be added as the investigation progresses and might be many more [Pakistani army] names to add".

Experts said it was significant that the Pakistani army's telecommunications officers had become part of the investigation – pointing out that the militants were guided by phone calls from their handlers in Pakistan.

During the 58-hour siege of Mumbai, a total of 284 calls, running into 995 minutes, were made by the 10 gunmen using mobile phones from the Taj Mahal hotel, Oberoi-Trident and a Jewish centre – where hostages were taken and shot.

Mumbai police point the finger at 38 individuals, 35 of whom are yet to be apprehended. The three who are in police custody include the lone surviving Pakistani gunmen, Ajmal Amir Kasab, and two Indians, Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Ansari. "The investigation is not over," said the officials.

The two Pakistani army officials are mentioned as accomplices of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Islamist militant group which India says was behind the attacks. The others charged include the group's founder Hafeez Muhammad Saeed and fellow members Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi, Zarar Shah and Abu Hamza.

The Pakistani government, which has a number of men in custody, says it will not allow its nationals to face trial in India.
Pakistani officers helped plan Mumbai attacks, says India | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[blain2]

Nice way to pin guilt:

Today Indian television contacted Sadatullah after being given his number by the Pakistani army switchboard. He hung up.

Any Army officer would immediately hang up as soon as he hears that media is calling or someone is asking questions without first getting clearance from the higher command channels.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, Indian officials said "it was not a good sign to see this kind of response from the Pakistani army … supplementary charge sheets will be added as the investigation progresses and might be many more [Pakistani army] names to add".

Please give me a break. So Pakistan Army officers are now to respond to idiotic Indian media calls just to keep Indian officials happy? Lets not mix regulations up with a desire to hide. No officer would be caught talking to the Indian media in the first place, and without prior and appropriate approval, good luck!

 

[qsaark]

This Zardari and Co has opened up the pandora's box. There was no need to start any investigations or crap like that. Now this bullshit will go a long way. I dont know what Kiyani is doing about it. If Indians want to fight, let them come. It is better to resolve it this way rather than allowing them to accuse our officers and anybody they please to.

 

[Jihad]

This Mumbai drama is going on for way too long, these Indians continue to come up with the craziest BS to make our country look bad.
I say enough is enough, prosecute the culprits and end it, if India wants more, give them nothing.
I've had it with this whole "26/11", it's personally tiring me out, it looks like (according to Indians) that ISI+ our Army + our government and our people were fully involved in this attack, as if our nation has any interests or benefits with these attacks. :S

 

[Neo]

A Shock to Indian Diplomacy - Mumbai Drama ​

Wednesday February 25, 2009

On February, 2009 Bangladeshi Foreign Minster Mr. Hassan committed that Mumbai Drama was planned on their land. Unfolding of this issue slowly and gradually is continuously causing embracement and giving shock to New Delhi on diplomatic and international fronts. According to Press Trust of India on February 17,2009 BJP leader L K Advani demanded thorough judicial inquiry into the Mumbai terror attack since it could not have taken place without local support. The ruling Congress is still not accepting the actual facts and is trying to hide the failure of their intelligence agencies. The maligning Pakistan and ISI in Mumbai issue has again proved a **** tail story and blame game.

Rehman Malik, interior advisor to Prime Minister, stated in a Press Conference in Islamabad that terrorist attack in Mumbai was planned in a number of countries, including Austria, Spain, Italy, Russia, US and Pakistan but reportedly the attackers had gone to Mumbai from Thatta Coast near Karachi. He also revealed that stern actions would be taken against the culprits as per territorial law. The FIR has been lodged against nine suspects. Six have been taken into custody, including the alleged mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi. The actions of Pakistan clearly depict that government means business and her agencies have carried out proper investigation. On February 14, Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir briefed foreign envoys on the steps taken by it to cooperate with India in bringing the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks to justice and to eliminate terrorism and militancy. Meanwhile, US and several other countries have welcomed the outcome of Pakistan`s probe into the Mumbai incident, especially its recognition that the attack was partly planned in Pakistan.

US State Department spokesman Robert Wood while addressing the newsmen in Washington declared that Pakistan is committed to do `everything in its power` to bring the culprits to justice particularly those `living within their borders`, Pakistan has also handed over a dossier to New Delhi to seek answers of 30 questions that have cropped up during the investigations for further probe into the attack. Islamabad has also demanded that Ajmal Kassab and other persons involved in the Mumbai episode be handed over to it for further and detailed interrogation. Pakistan has adopted a constructive, proactive, well-coordinated and coherent regional approach to deal with the Mumbai Issue. The diplomatic corps and world`s leadership expressed satisfaction over Pakistan action but on the other hand India is yet to proceed further and is just carrying on media warfare.

Whereas, the responsibility displayed by Pakistan government on February, 12 do demand reciprocal actions from India too. She must take steps to stop state terrorism against minorities and Kashmiris. But the current statements of Indian interior and foreign ministers reflect that New Delhi is not serious in cooperating with Pakistan. Therefore it would be the duty of world community to pressurize India for handing over Col Purohit to Pakistan so that justice be granted to the victims of Samjhota Express. The United Nations Organisation should also ask so-called secular state to ban Hindu extremists groups that are operating under the leadership of Bal Thackeray since over 200 million Muslims, Christians and Sikhs have been targeted by these Hindu organizations.

According to media reports, on February 13, President Zardari chaired a conference in Islamabad which was attended by Prime Minister Gillani, Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, the Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) and Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief. The meeting reviewed the current security situation and Indian response to Pakistani investigations over Mumbai attacks. ISI chief Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha gave a detailed briefing on the current situation in Swat and FATA and the ongoing efforts of law enforcement agencies to restore normalcy in the troubled areas. President Zardari expressed satisfaction with the ongoing actions against the Taliban, and vowed to eliminate insurgency. He paid tribute to the bravery and patriotism of the members of law enforcement agencies and ISI while saying that many of them had laid down their lives and many more had been injured inthe line of duty. "They are our heroes," he said. In fact India is indulging in anti-Pakistan activities. Several training camps are being maintained all along the western border and these are being used as launching pads for terrorist activities in Pakistan. She is busy in blame game against Islamic nuclear state for destabilizing it.

As per Hindustan Times its extremists have started advocating the severing of ties with Pakistan and accusing Islamabad of failure to initiate action against perpetrators of the Mumbai carnage and handing over of wanted terrorists. The paper further alleged that the Mumbai attacks were planned with military precision under the guidance of Pakistani establishment and the ISI. The point of view of the second largest party in relation to minorities is quite discouraging because it amounts to storming terrorism. The point be noted here that Pakistan itself is facing acute terrorism all over its territory. There is a need to find out the actual root cause of terrorism so that the same be eliminated. The main cause of spreading terrorism in South Asian Region is depriving rights of minorities in India, crushing Muslims, Sikhs and Parsies, poverty, lack of education, lack of national interests and new RAW-sponsored sabotage activities in neighbouring States.

The reason of unrest in Pakistan and India is Kashmir issue. Thus there is a need to resolve this matter permanently. The composite dialogues should be restarted so that bi-lateral issue could be resolved immediately. The termination of peace talks on Kashmir has once again pushed the issue into dark abyss. India is the "most dangerous country" in the world. It has everything from nuclear weapons to extremism which gives "an international migraine". Probably Indian leadership has thought that it is the right time to establish her regional hegemony under the garb of Mumbai drama. Bal Thackeray, India`s Hindu terrorist too has advised his government to attack Pakistan without warning. He also stated that he is proud of extremist Hindus if at all they have launched Mumbai attacks. His statements do reflect the exact mentality of extremist thoughts.

Earlier reports are there that US had asked Islamabad to allow New Delhi to attack some selected targets in Pakistan and later should not retaliate. Whether these reports are correct or not but the fact is that President Zardari, democratic government and Armed forces chiefs have loudly and clearly stated that Pakistan will retaliate with its full force if any aggression was imposed on her. The Prime Minister also sounded in a clear tone that any surgical strike by India in response to the Mumbai terror attacks would be seen as an "act of war" and will be dealt with accordingly. India has started proxy wars in the region. The first proxy militia - Mukti Bahini in East Pakistan - was created and used by India in 1971 to invade Pakistani territory.

And again, in Balochistan, India and the Soviets created and armed a Baloch `liberation army`. Then in 1989 the Americans left Afghanistan and ran away, leaving Pakistan to worry about the results. In short, it`s difficult to bring peace without settling the regional issues for example, Kashmir, and water conflicts. It may be recalled that David Miliband during his recent visit to India had called for resolution of the long-standing Kashmir dispute to bring lasting peace in the region. The Indian political pundits should pressurize their government and ask it to cooperate with Pakistan in elimination of regional terrorism. Pakistan is determined to eradicate the problems but her rival is not likely to show responsibility in resolving major regional issue i.e. Kashmir, water disputes and stopping Hindu extremists from terrorism against minorities

In short, India faced terrible failure on Mumbai Issue, LTTE defeat and other regional matters. RAW supported by Hindu Taliban is deceiving her government, national and international community from actual root cause of the problem .i.e. communal violence and terrorism against minorities.

End.

 

[foofighter]

A Shock to Indian Diplomacy - Mumbai Drama ​

Wednesday February 25, 2009

On February, 2009 Bangladeshi Foreign Minster Mr. Hassan committed that Mumbai Drama was planned on their land. Unfolding of this issue slowly and gradually is continuously causing embracement and giving shock to New Delhi on diplomatic and international fronts. According to Press Trust of India on February 17,2009 BJP leader L K Advani demanded thorough judicial inquiry into the Mumbai terror attack since it could not have taken place without local support. The ruling Congress is still not accepting the actual facts and is trying to hide the failure of their intelligence agencies. The maligning Pakistan and ISI in Mumbai issue has again proved a **** tail story and blame game.

Rehman Malik, interior advisor to Prime Minister, stated in a Press Conference in Islamabad that terrorist attack in Mumbai was planned in a number of countries, including Austria, Spain, Italy, Russia, US and Pakistan but reportedly the attackers had gone to Mumbai from Thatta Coast near Karachi. He also revealed that stern actions would be taken against the culprits as per territorial law. The FIR has been lodged against nine suspects. Six have been taken into custody, including the alleged mastermind Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi. The actions of Pakistan clearly depict that government means business and her agencies have carried out proper investigation. On February 14, Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir briefed foreign envoys on the steps taken by it to cooperate with India in bringing the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks to justice and to eliminate terrorism and militancy. Meanwhile, US and several other countries have welcomed the outcome of Pakistan`s probe into the Mumbai incident, especially its recognition that the attack was partly planned in Pakistan.

US State Department spokesman Robert Wood while addressing the newsmen in Washington declared that Pakistan is committed to do `everything in its power` to bring the culprits to justice particularly those `living within their borders`, Pakistan has also handed over a dossier to New Delhi to seek answers of 30 questions that have cropped up during the investigations for further probe into the attack. Islamabad has also demanded that Ajmal Kassab and other persons involved in the Mumbai episode be handed over to it for further and detailed interrogation. Pakistan has adopted a constructive, proactive, well-coordinated and coherent regional approach to deal with the Mumbai Issue. The diplomatic corps and world`s leadership expressed satisfaction over Pakistan action but on the other hand India is yet to proceed further and is just carrying on media warfare.

Whereas, the responsibility displayed by Pakistan government on February, 12 do demand reciprocal actions from India too. She must take steps to stop state terrorism against minorities and Kashmiris. But the current statements of Indian interior and foreign ministers reflect that New Delhi is not serious in cooperating with Pakistan. Therefore it would be the duty of world community to pressurize India for handing over Col Purohit to Pakistan so that justice be granted to the victims of Samjhota Express. The United Nations Organisation should also ask so-called secular state to ban Hindu extremists groups that are operating under the leadership of Bal Thackeray since over 200 million Muslims, Christians and Sikhs have been targeted by these Hindu organizations.

According to media reports, on February 13, President Zardari chaired a conference in Islamabad which was attended by Prime Minister Gillani, Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, the Chief of the Army Staff (COAS) and Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief. The meeting reviewed the current security situation and Indian response to Pakistani investigations over Mumbai attacks. ISI chief Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha gave a detailed briefing on the current situation in Swat and FATA and the ongoing efforts of law enforcement agencies to restore normalcy in the troubled areas. President Zardari expressed satisfaction with the ongoing actions against the Taliban, and vowed to eliminate insurgency. He paid tribute to the bravery and patriotism of the members of law enforcement agencies and ISI while saying that many of them had laid down their lives and many more had been injured inthe line of duty. "They are our heroes," he said. In fact India is indulging in anti-Pakistan activities. Several training camps are being maintained all along the western border and these are being used as launching pads for terrorist activities in Pakistan. She is busy in blame game against Islamic nuclear state for destabilizing it.


The reason of unrest in Pakistan and India is Kashmir issue. Thus there is a need to resolve this matter permanently. The composite dialogues should be restarted so that bi-lateral issue could be resolved immediately. The termination of peace talks on Kashmir has once again pushed the issue into dark abyss. India is the "most dangerous country" in the world. It has everything from nuclear weapons to extremism which gives "an international migraine". Probably Indian leadership has thought that it is the right time to establish her regional hegemony under the garb of Mumbai drama. Bal Thackeray, India`s Hindu terrorist too has advised his government to attack Pakistan without warning. He also stated that he is proud of extremist Hindus if at all they have launched Mumbai attacks. His statements do reflect the exact mentality of extremist thoughts.

Earlier reports are there that US had asked Islamabad to allow New Delhi to attack some selected targets in Pakistan and later should not retaliate. Whether these reports are correct or not but the fact is that President Zardari, democratic government and Armed forces chiefs have loudly and clearly stated that Pakistan will retaliate with its full force if any aggression was imposed on her. The Prime Minister also sounded in a clear tone that any surgical strike by India in response to the Mumbai terror attacks would be seen as an "act of war" and will be dealt with accordingly. India has started proxy wars in the region. The first proxy militia - Mukti Bahini in East Pakistan - was created and used by India in 1971 to invade Pakistani territory.



In short, India faced terrible failure on Mumbai Issue, LTTE defeat and other regional matters. RAW supported by Hindu Taliban is deceiving her government, national and international community from actual root cause of the problem .i.e. communal violence and terrorism against minorities.

End.

Haha! Fascinating. After reading you entire post I can say , all you have done is take the best anti-pakistan speeches, and quotes from world leader, and replaced Pakistan's name with India. Try as hard as you wish, its not gonna change the fact that Pakistan has 70% of world terror emenating from its soil, most of it affecting India.

India faced terrible failure on Mumbai Issue

Which world do you live in? You mean persuading Pakistan to change its denial within 79 days, go from saying "Kasab is not a Pakistani" to actually accepting in front of the world that all the terrorists were Pakistans and attack was planned and executed from Pakistan, is India's failure?

Wow, I'm spell bounded. I wonder if making Pakistan act just short of actual war is not a success, then what is?