Mumbai Attacks

[Imran Khan]

Listen to the rest of the tape, its clearly an Indian talking. Have you even been to Pakistan, do you even know how a Pakistani pronouces "z" (as in Zulu or Zebra)?

exelent sir tihis one i note sevral time when guy talking he use z same like my indian friends here in my company.

 

[Neo]

What sort of a question is that? Why are Sanskrit words like "Guru" used in English but not "Shishya".

Can you confirm that shaheed is an official Hindi word?
I'm just curious.

 

[shchinese]

Pakistani Army may have been involved in training the terrorists!!! (highly speculative)

could you please stop spamming here? provide solid evidence that can be reviewed by respectful 3rd party (e.g. UN) or you can just unsubscribe from this forum and RIP.

 

[salman nedian]

What sort of a question is that? Why are Sanskrit words like "Guru" used in English but not "Shishya".

The question is relevant in a sense that the word ‘Shaheed’ has a religious background. off course the background is Islamic so it doesn’t make any sense to use this if u are willing to use these religious words than u have to believe on Islamic ideology.

 

[shchinese]

how about the other 6? Born in India and 100% native Indians right?

 

[Flintlock]

Can you confirm that shaheed is an official Hindi word?
I'm just curious.

Shahid is not a "Shuddha Hindi" word, but its borrowed from Arabic and used to indicate "martyr".

I don't think there is a Hindi word for "Martyr" (someone with good knowledge of Hindi please confirm this)

 

[Neo]

Is there a word for Jihad in Hindi?

 

[Flintlock]

Is there a word for Jihad in Hindi?

No, not really.

If you want to literally translate "Holy War" into Hindi, it would be "Dharm Yuddh"

 

[Neo]

Thanks Flint.

The reason I asked is because Shaheed is a very delicate and honord word in Islam, it also happens to be one of the 99 names of Allah. To qualify to be called a "Shaheed" one atleast has to be a muslim.

 

[third eye]

We are moving tangentially.

Urdu was the official language in courts in N India till the mid / late 60's. In fact even today, FIR ( first info Reports) written by Delhi & UP Police ( I do not know of Punjab, Haryana & HP) contains urdu words spelt in Hindi.. e.g Hadsa - to describe an accident, Maut for death, Mauqa -e - wardat - scene of crime etc etc. This continues for the following reasons :

1. Udru words sometimes convey more in less .
2. Convention.
3. These words / phrases have gained acceptability being in vogue for ages.
4. No reason to change.. its working fine.

Lastly, cinema too has served to cement usage of Urdu in our daily lives.

The word Shaeed does not necessarily have religious overtones. Bhagat Singh is called a Shaeed even now..there are so many more.

We should refrain from finding flaws where there are none.

 

[Flintlock]

Thanks Flint.

The reason I asked is because Shaheed is a very delicate and honord word in Islam, it also happens to be one of the 99 names of Allah. To qualify to be called a "Shaheed" one atleast has to be a muslim.

Well in India its just a normal word for "martyr", so it doesn't have the religious connotation here.

 

[Super Falcon]

why india always claims pak in terorist attacks before any sufficent proof indian government use to claim terorist attacks in its terority to pakistan we are also suffering from terror why our govt claim that Indian RAW and indian govt is involved in terrorist attacks against pakistan we have to make a solid policy against indian agression

 

[nitesh]

Commando ops at Oberoi over; hotel death toll 30
Commando ops at Oberoi over; hotel death toll 30

 

[Neo]

The word Shaeed does not necessarily have religious overtones. Bhagat Singh is called a Shaeed even now..there are so many more.

We should refrain from finding flaws where there are none.

Excellent post T.E.!

Shaheed is an arabic word with a religious background, meant to specify a certain cause of death only. I can imagine that not every muslim (and there are 150 million in India only) would agree with your modest view.

Q.) The word "Shaheed" has been frequently used in the books, newspapers, and magazines for different types of people. I am sure that this word should have a specific connotation in the Islamic Terminology. I will be grateful if you please explain the true meaning of this word and the categories of persons for whom this term may be applied in Shariah.

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A.) In fact "Shaheed", is a specific term, used in the Holy Quran and Sunnah. It has certainly a specific meaning and one should be careful before applying this term to a person and you should ascertain whether he is really qualified to be called a "Shaheed."

According to Islamic Jurisprudence, "Shaheed" is of two kinds:

Shaheed in the real sense.
Shaheed in the constructive sense.

Shaheed in the real sense is a Muslim who has been killed during "Jihad" or has been killed by any person unjustly. Such a person has two characteristics different from common people who die on their bed. Firstly, he should be buried without giving him a ritual bath. However, the prayer of the Janazah shall be offered on him and he shall also be given a proper kafin (burial shroud). Secondly, he will deserve a great reward in the Hereafter and it is hoped that Allah Almighty shall forgive his sins and admit him to Jannah. It is also stated in some of the traditions that the body of such a person remains in the grave protected from contamination or dissolution.

As compared to this kind of "Shaheed" a Shaheed in a constructive sense is a person who has been promised by the Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam to get a reward of a Shaheed in the Hereafter but is not taken as Shaheed with regard to the rules of burial. It means that the dead body has to be bathed like a dead body of any other person. The Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam has included in this category of Shaheed a large number of persons such as a person who has died in a Plague or who has died in an unexpected accident, like a fire or a traffic accident or who has been drowned in the water or a woman who has died during the delivery of her child etc.

Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, a well-known scholar of Islamic disciplines, has collected all the Hadiths relating to this kind of Shaheed and has come to the conclusion that there are thirty categories mentioned by the Holy Prophet Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam who can deserve to be called Shaheed in this sense. But in the normal course, the word "Shaheed" is applied only for the first kind. However, it is not prohibited to use the word for a person who falls in any of the categories mentioned in the second kind.

It is evident from the above discussion that the word "Shaheed" can only be used for a Muslim and cannot be applied to a non-Muslim at all. Similarly, the term cannot be used for a person who has been rightly killed as a punishment of his own offence.

 

[nitesh]

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