Mumbai Attacks

[Neo]

Everyone reap what they sow. Thats why we have **** PM calling us up and saying we are also equal victims.

Correction: Not equal but bigger victom.

 

[Bull]

Correction: Not equal but bigger victom.

Ok Neo, wont disagree wth you.

 

[Vinod2070]

Shahid is not a "Shuddha Hindi" word, but its borrowed from Arabic and used to indicate "martyr".

I don't think there is a Hindi word for "Martyr" (someone with good knowledge of Hindi please confirm this)

Shahid in Hindi would roughly translate as "Veergati ko prapt hona".

Shahid is used much more commonly for the martyrs in India as you pointed out but Doordarshan would use the words "Veergati ko prapt huai" (roughly met the fate of a brave person).

 

[dr.umer]

This isnt pakistan, we dont have our army killing our own.

Indian intelligence sponsored grenade attack in Sopore, one killed, 3 injured ​

27 Nov 2008

SRINAGAR, Nov 27 (APP): One person was killed and three others injured when an unidentified person hurled a grenade at a road show organized by a National Conference candidate in Sopore, Baramulla district. Eye witnesses indicated that ex‑SPO (Special Police Officer) who is presently on the payroll of Indian Border Security Force carried out the grenade attack to develop sympathies of locals for National Conference candidate and hatred against pro‑independence groups.

As per the details, the grenade was thrown at the road show organised by Mohammad Ashraf Ganaie at Braat‑Kalaan in Sopore area at around 1315 hours on Nov 25, Initially four persons were injured but injured identified as Afaq Ahmad succumbed to injuries while being shifted to hospital. This is the first grenade attack on an election rally in Indian held Jammu and Kashmir since campaigning process began. Locals in Baramulla district are of the view that Indian intelligence agencies have carried out this grenade attack through their source in order to defame all those who boycotted the elections. It is on record that in the first two phases of elections no untoward incident took place any where in IHK.

 

[smeaglegolum]

Arrested Fidayeen reveal terror route, LeT hand

PTI | November 28, 2008 | 13:01 IST

The arrest of three Pakistani nationals hailing from Multan in connection with Mumbai siege has once again revealed the role of Lashkar-e-Tayiba in terror strikes in India after the Akshardham attack in 2002.

Owner says trawler hijacked on high seas

Police and central security personnel have arrested at least three Pakistanis, including Ajmal Amir Kamal, a resident of Faridkot near Multan in Pakistan's Punjab province. All the three belong to the suicide squad of Lashkar-e-Tayiba.

The terrorists told interrogators that 12 of them had left in a merchant vessel from the port city of Karachi, which was on its way to Vietnam, from which they got down and rowed 10 nautical miles into Indian waters up to Gateway of India.

The dozen people split into at least five groups that created havoc in five star hotels -- Taj and Trident (Oberoi). The terrorists were carrying dry fruits, suggesting they were prepared for a long-drawn battle.

The sources said the group was joined by some of the local contacts who provided them logistics like bags and dry fruits, the sources said, adding initial reports suggested that the terror group had come to the metropolis in the intervening night of Sunday and Monday.

However, new leads suggested that they had entered the Indian waters on early Wednesday morning, the sources said.

This major strike from the banned Lashkar comes six years after it had carried out an audacious attack on Akshardham temple in Ahmedabad in which 25 were killed on September 25, 2002.

Elite National Security Guards had to be airdropped into the complex to rescue 50 people.

The Lashkar-e-Tayiba had a mixed luck with attack on RSS headquarters in Nagpur and attack on Group Regimental Centre of the Central Reserve Police Force at Rampur (Uttar Pradesh) in 2007.

After being banned by the US for spreading terror in the world and being linked with Al-Qaeda, Lashkar had mainly used its Indian contacts, which included Indian Mujahideeen, to indulge in terror network.

However, this time in Mumbai, the terror group decided to carry out the attack itself as they wanted to strike in a big way, the sources said.

 

[Bull]

Indian intelligence sponsored grenade attack in Sopore, one killed, 3 injured ​

27 Nov 2008

SRINAGAR, Nov 27 (APP): One person was killed and three others injured when an unidentified person hurled a grenade at a road show organized by a National Conference candidate in Sopore, Baramulla district. Eye witnesses indicated that ex‑SPO (Special Police Officer) who is presently on the payroll of Indian Border Security Force carried out the grenade attack to develop sympathies of locals for National Conference candidate and hatred against pro‑independence groups.

As per the details, the grenade was thrown at the road show organised by Mohammad Ashraf Ganaie at Braat‑Kalaan in Sopore area at around 1315 hours on Nov 25, Initially four persons were injured but injured identified as Afaq Ahmad succumbed to injuries while being shifted to hospital. This is the first grenade attack on an election rally in Indian held Jammu and Kashmir since campaigning process began. Locals in Baramulla district are of the view that Indian intelligence agencies have carried out this grenade attack through their source in order to defame all those who boycotted the elections. It is on record that in the first two phases of elections no untoward incident took place any where in IHK.

Lol APP. Couldnt find a better news agency than APP to comment abt India.

 

[smeaglegolum]

Indian intelligence sponsored grenade attack in Sopore, one killed, 3 injured ​

27 Nov 2008

SRINAGAR, Nov 27 (APP): One person was killed and three others injured when an unidentified person hurled a grenade at a road show organized by a National Conference candidate in Sopore, Baramulla district. Eye witnesses indicated that ex‑SPO (Special Police Officer) who is presently on the payroll of Indian Border Security Force carried out the grenade attack to develop sympathies of locals for National Conference candidate and hatred against pro‑independence groups.

As per the details, the grenade was thrown at the road show organised by Mohammad Ashraf Ganaie at Braat‑Kalaan in Sopore area at around 1315 hours on Nov 25, Initially four persons were injured but injured identified as Afaq Ahmad succumbed to injuries while being shifted to hospital. This is the first grenade attack on an election rally in Indian held Jammu and Kashmir since campaigning process began. Locals in Baramulla district are of the view that Indian intelligence agencies have carried out this grenade attack through their source in order to defame all those who boycotted the elections. It is on record that in the first two phases of elections no untoward incident took place any where in IHK.

Look at the source, where it is published.

 

[Flintlock]

Shahid in Hindi would roughly translate as "Veergati ko prapt hona".

Shahid is used much more commonly for the martyrs in India as you pointed out but Doordarshan would use the words "Veergati ko prapt huai" (roughly met the fate of a brave person).

Yes, you're right the phrase would be "veergati ko prapt huey" - I haven't heard that one in a while

Perhaps because I haven't watched DD in a while.

 

[Halaku Khan]

Shahid is not a "Shuddha Hindi" word, but its borrowed from Arabic and used to indicate "martyr".

I don't think there is a Hindi word for "Martyr" (someone with good knowledge of Hindi please confirm this)

The Sanskrit word for Martyr is Hutatma.

Very commonly used in some Indian languages like Marathi but not in Hindi, it seems.

Personally I would prefer that the word Shaheed not be used.

 

[anand]

I wonder what kind of "Mujahids" are these people. I mean what we see normally is that those terrorist who defame name of Great Islam are usually having beards and their way of talking is much different than those interviewed by NDTV. Those terrorist don't match the regular profile of Pakistani Jihadis that carry out attacks in Pakistan.

All of this interview crap seems to be staged to blame Pakistan as elections are coming and this is the biggest blow that present govt has suffered. It is good that ISI chief will visit India. India's foreign minister has accused Pakistan but has said that "Proof cannot be disclosed at this time." Most probably because there is none.

Both countries are suffering from terrorism and it is time Indian media should realize that doing politics on such an affair will not do good for them. If they are really interested in making any effort against terrorism, they needs to stop blame game and seriously focus on anti-terror operations against people who cause harm in the name of religions (Islam and Hindu).

FM did not blame Pakistan. He told some element in Pakistan are responsible. They may be some terrorist organization, some individuals or anyone. it does not mean Pakistan as a country has planned this.

 

[s90]

Indians dont know that attack will take place on this massive scale crippling a city like Mumbai,they dont know who these guys are,they dont know about this group

But yes one thing they know is that they are from Pakistan

 

[Flintlock]

The Sanskrit word for Martyr is Hutatma.

Very commonly used in some Indian languages like Marathi but not in Hindi, it seems.

Personally I would prefer that the word Shaheed not be used.

Yes, there's "Hutatma Chowk" In Mumbai.

I thought it was a Marathi word only !!

 

[dr.umer]

Arrested Fidayeen reveal terror route, LeT hand

The arrest of three Pakistani nationals hailing from Multan in connection with Mumbai siege has once again revealed the role of Lashkar-e-Tayiba in terror strikes in India after the Akshardham attack in 2002.

Owner says trawler hijacked on high seas

Police and central security personnel have arrested at least three Pakistanis, including Ajmal Amir Kamal, a resident of Faridkot near Multan in Pakistan's Punjab province. All the three belong to the suicide squad of Lashkar-e-Tayiba.

The terrorists told interrogators that 12 of them had left in a merchant vessel from the port city of Karachi, which was on its way to Vietnam, from which they got down and rowed 10 nautical miles into Indian waters up to Gateway of India.

How sweet. Terrorist exactly told the same story what India media was showing in early hours of operations with out any proof. PTI at it's best.

 

[smeaglegolum]

Indians dont know that attack will take place on this massive scale crippling a city like Mumbai,they dont know who these guys are,they dont know about this group

But yes one thing they know is that they are from Pakistan

Yes, you are right. Evidence is pointing towards that direction.

 

[smeaglegolum]

How sweet. Terrorist exactly told the same story what India media was showing in early hours of operations with out any proof. PTI at it's best.

Truth doesn't change, that must be the reason.