Mumbai Attacks

[Orakzai]

u silly pple who started this thread????
where is he now????
an american started form now he would b sittin on his seat watchin u pple and would b gettin amuse of wot u pple throwin shits on each other.

n this is wot they r doin from an ages ago to our countries too

 

[Flintlock]

Drop the broken record like cantor.....PAKISTAN should do this or that yada yada yada!

I can assure you, it will happen again & again & again to India until such time the very reason for such incidents is not resolved once and for all.......i.e KASHMIR!

If Pakistan doesn't rein in the terrorists, it will harm Pakistan first, and then India.

Just remember that before predicting such things.

This is not 1989. It is 2009. Things don't work the same way anymore. If Pakistani territory is used to attack another country, it not only spoils your country's image, but leads to some real consequences, as the leaders and people of Pakistan are discovering every day.

 

[Flintlock]

Please elaborate on the word "dangerous".

It means that the GOI will come under tremendous domestic pressure to 'do something'.

 

[notorious_eagle]

It means that the GOI will come under tremendous domestic pressure to 'do something'.

Your absolutely right, prolly GOI will repeat what they did in 2001 and what they did just now in 2008. You are right we are not living in 1989 anymore, so its about time India stops supporting terror inside Pakistan by giving arms and money to BLA and other terrorists on the Afghan border.

 

[Flintlock]

Your absolutely right, prolly GOI will repeat what they did in 2001 and what they did just now in 2008. You are right we are not living in 1989 anymore, so its about time India stops supporting terror inside Pakistan by giving arms and money to BLA and other terrorists on the Afghan border.

Well if you guys have any solid evidence, do present it in front of the world - the globalized world works both ways, not one way.

 

[Captain03]

great post
simply amazing

 

[jeypore]

I don't know if any of you have read this somewhere, but I've read on a dutch newswebsite that the Indian high court is launching an investigation onto powerful Indian politicans who might've had a hand or a role in the Mumbai attacks.
It has been said that it was possible for the suspected politicians to have initiated or planned the Mumbai attacks because they wanted to get rid of certain elements including the Indian anti-terror chief Hermant Karkare, who has died in the attacks, also trying to harm and damage Pakistans image in these attacks was part of the plan of these politicians, something that has yet to be investigated to determine which politicians really were behind this.

I'm translating a large part of the dutch website: 'Politici schuldig bloedbad Mumbai' - Buitenland - Telegraaf.nl [24 uur actueel, ook mobiel] [buitenland]

It has been said that politicians from Maharashtra wanted Karkare to step down or get rid of him in some way because Karkare was on a trail and had important information about terrorist attacks and plannings regarding the Hindu extremist organisation "Hindutva".
Karkare had also been threatened several times due to his investigation.

The goal of the Indian investigation is to find out which politicians from Maharashtra wanted Karkare to step down in his position.
Also, the finance minister of Maharashtra who goes over the taxes and such has allegedly given funds and logistic aid to the purpetrators of the Mumbai attacks.
It has also been said that the only survivor of the Mumbai attacks, a Pakistani national (Ajmal Kasab), had been in jail in India before the attacks even occured.

the dutch newswebsite Telegraaf.nl - De website van wakker Nederland has gotten its information from the Indian "Radiance" news agency.

This is a direct translation from Dutch to English, these are serious allegations and let's see if the investigation from Indian side will shed more light on this, i'm hoping for someone to have more proper source or information about this.

Something this big would be first in Indian news paper, before it even hit the dutch papers.

 

[linkinpark]

Something is lost in translation, I have never seen any such news in Indian or other World media yet.

 

[notorious_eagle]

Well if you guys have any solid evidence, do present it in front of the world - the globalized world works both ways, not one way.

So those dozens of consulates that India has opened in Afghanistan are to give those poor Afghans work visas . Please buddy we are not dumb, we know whats going on in Afghanistan. As far as the evidence is concerned, ISI handed the evidence over to CIA regarding Indian activity but like India we are a bunch of whinners. We dont like to make a fool out of ourselves crying like a little ***** infront of the world. Oh and btw, how about India starts handing over evidence to Pakistan instead of information. GOI blames ISI for all the problems in India, heck there was a report that ISI was trying to spread aids among Indian personals . I guess all this whining has brought GOI to a defensive position, even though they were in a position of strength after the Mumbai attacks.

 

[Flintlock]

So those dozens of consulates that India has opened in Afghanistan are to give those poor Afghans work visas . Please buddy we are not dumb, we know whats going on in Afghanistan. As far as the evidence is concerned, ISI handed the evidence over to CIA regarding Indian activity but like India we are a bunch of whinners. We dont like to make a fool out of ourselves crying like a little ***** infront of the world.

Fine then, don't 'whine'. Just let internet warriors whine about it on internet forums, if that's what you want.

 

[EagleEyes]

Next time anything like mumbai will happen with pak links established, India will launch war against pak and pak will try to persuade china to fight for it as well apart from providing back support.But china wont considering International obligations and repercussions of a direct war with India.So pak will try to use it's nukes (if it looks that pak is going to loose conventionally)first on strategic parts of India and India will retalliate.The end result: India will loose a few million people and Pak will become lawless with tens of millions of loss of it's people and India or china or U.S. or taliban will take over of whatever will be left of pak.
So it's in pak and India's interest that a second mumbai doesn't follow any time soon.

Dear Cheif of Staff,

What makes you think that India will lose less people than Pakistan?

 

[asaad-ul-islam]

yet again, we see war-mongering indians daydreaming about indian capabilities and grossly underestimating ours. please grow up and behave, you CANNOT attack Pakistan. You couldn't do it in 2002, you couldn't do it now. You guys thought and boasted that you had complete superiority, yet your forces knew that war with us, even in our weakened state, would spell disaster.

over the past month, your voice to take action against us has weakened, and all the 'fuss' has died down. everyone is ignoring you now, and to top it off, the russians are screwing you for your money. so please do stop this madness. just seeing you guys holding your heads up high even after you have been wasted the past year, is too painful to watch.

 

[jeypore]

The report acknowledges that both countries have nuclear weapons, making any military action ‘a dangerous course’, but warns if India does not respond, that “would signal a lack of Indian resolve or capability”.

“Without an appropriate response, Pakistan, or at least those elements of its military and intelligence leadership that are supportive of the activities of groups like the LT, are likely to conclude that these operations, in some measure, yield benefits that exceed the cost,” said RAND while releasing the study titled ‘The Lessons of Mumbai’.

Atleast from the report the findings are that India does need to keep preassure on Pakistan because if it does not the report clearly says the elements in Pakistan establishment found a way of cheap proxy war. What i am amazed about that the Pakistan Gov't clearly knows that there are rouge player in there military and intelligence agency and there has been no crack down or even as far as recognition that it exists.


India is in catch 22 here, where preassure has to be mounted, yet it clearly see no sign from the Pakistan establishment. Infact the blame game is still being played not only to India, but even internally between the agencys. Overall it is going to remain a status quo, where relation or no relation will not even matter.

 

[XYON]

If Pakistan doesn't rein in the terrorists, it will harm Pakistan first, and then India.

Just remember that before predicting such things.

This is not 1989. It is 2009. Things don't work the same way anymore. If Pakistani territory is used to attack another country, it not only spoils your country's image, but leads to some real consequences, as the leaders and people of Pakistan are discovering every day.

Yeah! Yeah! You first try to look at your own border which is porous enough that dangerous criminals get through and tight enough that all the legal fishermen get caught day in and out! We in Pakistan know what are our issues and problems and are handling them!

Secondly, LeT which your GoI blames for the Mumbai Mow Down is a Kashmir specific organization (and yet GoI is stupid enough top say that the event was not related to Kashmir!!). Like I said before resolve KASHMIR and you will not have these problems! And you are right this is 2009 and not 1989! What 'consequences' are you referring to? Please list them so that I could answer each for you.

 

[ejaz007]

Perhaps Indian press was prevented from publishing the news.