Muhammad Bin Qasim

[Talwar e Pakistan]

He conquered a province Sindh which was unprotected.

lol Sindh was not unprotected.

 

[Hamza913]

Your history defies logic and told no where outside Pakistan.

Ironic coming from the Hindustani, you guys make extraordinary claims such as:

1. All Muslims in South Asia are the product of Arab rape
2. The Indo-Aryan migrations are a lie
3. Indus Valley Civilisation came from Hindustan
4. Akbar was a peace-loving Hindustani ruler
5. Aurangzeb destroyed 1000's of temples
6. Hindustan won all wars with Pakistan

I can name so much more crap coming from your country, so stuff it.

Anyway, I have only told the truth. No bending of history here.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Muhammad Bin Qasim was a general of the Umayyad Khilafah who conquered modern day Sindh and Multan, starting what was to be the 1000 year long Islamic conquest of the Indian sub-continent.

The conquest was started as a result of pirates from the area capturing a ship, kidnapping all the Muslims on board. One of the kidnapped Muslims managed to escape and asked the Khilafah to rescue the rest of the kidnapped Muslims. This resulted in the Khilafah asking the current ruler of the area (Dahir) to release the prisoners and provide compensation for this misdemeanour, however, Dahir refused. This resulted in Muhammad Bin Qasim being tasked to conquer the region, even though he was still a young boy, only 17 years of age.

Muhammad Bin Qasim led an army initially consisting of 6,000 Syrian and Mawali (recent non-Arab converts to Islam) troops, however, another several thousand camel riders and other reinforcements were provided by the governor of Makran, along with 5 catapults. Many Gujjars and Meds also joined Muhammad Bin Qasim's army.

During the conquest of the region, Muhammad Bin Qasim acted fairly and justly, attempting to do as little economic damage as possible with as little casualties as possible (on both sides). He always gave the people he encountered the choice of surrendering peacefully, only if they refused and remained in adamant in fighting him would he use violence. Even then, Muhammad Bin Qasim only killed those belong to Ahl-i-Harb (combatants), which included Dahir himself. The majority of the people he encountered chose to surrender peacefully.

Once a new town was conquered, Muhammad Bin Qasim always incorporated the locals into his administration and (if they willed it) his army. He also opened the gateway for proselytism to occur.

His reasons for success were his superior battle tactics, his more advanced technology (e.g the Mongol bow), the fact that the current ruler (Dahir) was very unpopular among people of the region, and the fact that he incorporated the people of the region into his army and administration, rather than alienating them.

Muhammad Bin Qasim was eventually arrested and executed during the Abbasid revolution, due to his uncle being Hajjaj Ibn Yusuf (a person who was greatly despised by the Abbasid's).

The legacy of Muhammad Bin Qasim is a large one. He was the first Muslim ruler to gain large amounts of territory of the Indian sub-continent, arguably paving the way for future Islamic conquests and proselytism, as well as large migrations of Muslims to the region. Muhammad Bin Qasim is also considered to be the first Pakistani, as the idea of a Muslim homeland in the Indian sub-continent started after his conquests of the region. Yom-e-Babul Islam is also observed in Pakistan in his honour. There are also many places in Pakistan named after him, such as the Muhammad Bin Qasim library in Thatta, Bin Qasim town in Karachi, Ibn-e-Qasim Bagh stadium in Multan, Port Qasim (Pakistan's 2nd largest port), etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Qasim
http://historypak.com/muhammad-bin-qasim/

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I would not at all consider him a "Pakistani" let alone the "first Pakistani".

Sure he was a part of our history and his influence/legacy still lives on in Pakistan, but I don't see in which logic he would be considered a Pakistani.

He was an Umayyad Commander, nothing more.

 

[Hamza913]

That is some flawed history , as there is no connection between Mohammad Bin Qasim and Pakistan

Asalamu Alaikum

Tell that to the Pakistani history curriculum.

He conquered a province Sindh which was unprotected.

I would not at all consider him the first Pakistani nor a Pakistani.

Asalamu Alaikum

Well, the Pakistani history curriculum does, and Pakistan itself exists as a homeland for Muslims of the region. Islam first became a dominant force in the region under Qasim, so calling him the first Pakistani is correct in my opinion.

Pakistan was fromed by Political Movement , not by Mohammad Bin Qasim's war

The political movement only existed because of Qasim's war, and the ancestors of many Pakistanis (as explained earlier) fought under his army and worked under his administration.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Asalamu Alaikum

Well, the Pakistani history curriculum does, and Pakistan itself exists as a homeland for Muslims of the region. Islam first became a dominant force in the region under Qasim, so calling him the first Pakistani is correct in my opinion.

Islam became a dominant force in the region because of Sufi missionaries. Sufi influence can be seen in every corner of Pakistani culture.

Most of these invaders came to conquer and plunder, not to convert people.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The influence can be divided into Three folds

a) Cultural
b) Religious
c) Political views

So under this principle , we can say yes Bin Qasim , brought a new Religious/Political process. However the region called Pakistan today has been actively infuenced by Miltiple civilizations over 2600 Year period


Our dress code/ and clothese we wear are all silk and cottom , fine stuff. So this type of dress code was not prominent in Land of Arabia as it was releatively underdeveloped back in past. Now of course due to Technoogy and trade every one wears fairly westernized stuff

The agricultural infuences were shared with our neighbour country , and same for the trade goods and food and how food is prepared

We still see similarities between food in Iran/Afghanistan or Pakistan , it is just our food tends to be on spicy side

The political views Pakistani have are very similar to Turkey , focused on education and close collaboration work with each other


The religious views ties us with folks in Arabia very well. However since Pakistan is not a Dynasty but a Republic so some differences exist


Lastly we also have to acknowlege the influence left behind on Pakistan by being part of even British Empire , as our Court system , Police System and most of existing institutes are still heavily influenced by British system. The ideal of the Bachelor's degree is a purly British concept used in University

The A Level course or 0 Level course are highly popular in student community even now after 70 years of indendence from British Government

 

[Hamza913]

Islam became a dominant force in the region because of Sufi missionaries. Sufi influence can be seen in every corner of Pakistani culture.

Most of these invaders came to conquer and plunder, not to convert people.

Sufis only came because of these conquerors.

No, only Tamerlane and Nader Shah came to plunder Pakistan. The rest of them considered Pakistan a vital piece of their empire and developed it significantly, with many of these rulers even coming from Pakistan (e.g Ghazi Malik, Shah Jahan, Sikander Shah Mir, etc). Many Pakistanis also worked in their armies and administration, and during these conquests many Turks, Arabs and Persians all came, settled down in Pakistan and intermarried with the local population.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I dont agree with title

He was not Pakistani but arab general

Pakistani are those who are living in this land which comprise present day Pakistan and people of this land had long history before the arrival of Islam or Muhammad bin Qasim in sub continent . If we make him first Pakistani then it would mean that we all Pakistani had no existence prior to arrival of Islam or Muahmmad bin Qasim which is lie

 

[Hamza913]

I dont agree with title

He was not Pakistani but arab general

Pakistani are those who are living in this land which comprise present day Pakistan and people of this land had long history before the arrival of Islam or Muhammad bin Qasim in sub continent . If we make him first Pakistani then it would mean that we all Pakistani had no existence prior to arrival of Islam or Muahmmad bin Qasim which is lie

Asalamu Alaikum

We have a pre-Islamic history, but our Islamic history is more important as it is the reason why Pakistan exists today. We only exist as a nation because of the likes of Qasim, Ghaznavi, Aurangzeb and Abdali. Not because of the likes of Panini, Porus, Kautilya or Kanishka (but we can still like these guys and consider them part of our history and as national heroes too).

Also, many Muslims of the sub-continent (especially those in Pakistan and north-west Hindustan) are descended from those who migrated to the region during these Islamic conquests, so we do have an ancestral link with these Islamic conquerors.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3163234

"The study showed that the Muslim Gujjars differ significantly from their counterpart, the Hindu Gujjars"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19809480

"Overall, our results support a model according to which the spread of Islam in India was predominantly cultural conversion associated with minor but still detectable levels of gene flow from outside, primarily from Iran and Central Asia"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20067368

"we observed a certain degree of genetic contribution from Iran to both (Sunni and Shia) Muslim populations"

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Asalamu Alaikum

We have a pre-Islamic history, but our Islamic history is more important as it is the reason why Pakistan exists today. We only exist as a nation because of the likes of Qasim, Ghaznavi, Aurangzeb and Abdali. Not because of the likes of Panini, Porus, Kautilya or Kanishka (but we can still like these guys and consider them part of our history and as national heroes too).

Also, many Muslims of the sub-continent (especially those in Pakistan and north-west Hindustan) are descended from those who migrated to the region during these Islamic conquests, so we do have an ancestral link with these Islamic conquerors.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3163234

"The study showed that the Muslim Gujjars differ significantly from their counterpart, the Hindu Gujjars"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19809480

"Overall, our results support a model according to which the spread of Islam in India was predominantly cultural conversion associated with minor but still detectable levels of gene flow from outside, primarily from Iran and Central Asia"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20067368

"we observed a certain degree of genetic contribution from Iran to both (Sunni and Shia) Muslim populations"

Walikum salam

You are confusing many things. I am proud of my Muslim identity . You should realise that Pakistan and Arab are two different races . Arab rulers/invaders/commander/merchants/saints brought Islam in this region dont change their race and dont make them Pakistani . Similarly we Pakistani adopting Islam as religion dont make us Arab so this title making Muhammad Bin Qasim as first Pakistani dont make any sense

 

[gangsta_rap]

Also, many Muslims of the sub-continent (especially those in Pakistan and north-west Hindustan) are descended from those who migrated to the region during these Islamic conquests, so we do have an ancestral link with these Islamic conquerors.

Not really...samandri (before he was banned) had commented widely on this (with backup and evidence). The link is actually very weak in terms of descent & lineage.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

If the premise of the title is true,then what happened to pakistani IVC.I suppose i was misled into thinking pak history began with IVC,its Qasim the founding father of Pakistan i guess.

 

[Hamza913]

If the premise of the title is true,then what happened to pakistani IVC.I suppose i was misled into thinking pak history began with IVC,its Qasim the founding father of Pakistan i guess.

The reason Qasim is the first Pakistani is because Pakistan was founded on the basis of Islam, which started to play a major role in the region once Qasim came around.

IVC is our pre-Islamic history, from before the concept of Pakistan was slowly beginning to form.

Not really...samandri (before he was banned) had commented widely on this (with backup and evidence). The link is actually very weak in terms of descent & lineage.

Asalamu Alaikum

The link is there, as previous posts of mine have shown.

 

[SQ8]

If the premise of the title is true,then what happened to pakistani IVC.I suppose i was misled into thinking pak history began with IVC,its Qasim the founding father of Pakistan i guess.

Actually the first Pakistani was probably one of the children of Adam as it is widely understood that after all that those early men were all Muslims in their conceptual beleifs so which ever of them was the first to touch the border at Chaman was Pakistani. They probably put the name Pakistan and the two nation theory down in a pamphlet which Mohammad bin Qasim discovered but decided not to tell anyone and had sent to Aligarh to be buried in a time capsule which Sir Syed read a little then post dated a letter to Sir Iqbal and Jinnah who decided to appropriate for themselves and gave this person no credit.

Mohammed bin Qasim was late to the party but since it is impossible that Chaudhry Rehmat Ali put a name to the concept that was originally given form by a heathen trained barrister(Iqbal).. it must be attributed to the arab lands since those are of the pure blood that reflects in the “Pak” of Pakistan.

True story

 

[Hamza913]

Walikum salam

You are confusing many things. I am proud of my Muslim identity . You should realise that Pakistan and Arab are two different races . Arab rulers/invaders/commander/merchants/saints brought Islam in this region dont change their race and dont make them Pakistani . Similarly we Pakistani adopting Islam as religion dont make us Arab so this title making Muhammad Bin Qasim as first Pakistani dont make any sense

It makes perfect sense. Pakistan exists as a separate homeland for Muslims of the region. Islam played a major role in the region once Qasim started his conquests. Therefore, Qasim is the first Pakistani. Also, as started earlier, many people migrated to Pakistan during these conquests, intermarrying with the local people, not to mention we are all Bani Adam (Peace Be Upon Him), so the ethnic link is there to satisfy those of us who want a blood connection.

Actually the first Pakistani was probably one of the children of Adam as it is widely understood that after all it is muslim belief that those early men were all Muslims in their conceptual beleifs so which ever of them was the first to touch the border at Chaman was Pakistani. They probably put the name Pakistan and the two nation theory down in a pamphlet which Sir Syed and then Sir Iqbal decided to appropriate for themselves and gave this person no credit.

Mohammed bin Qasim was late to the party but since it is impossible that Chaudhry Rehmat Ali put a name to the concept that was originally given form by a heathen trained barrister(Iqbal).. it must be attributed to the arab lands since those are of the pure blood that reflects in the “Pak” of Pakistan.

True story

Asalamu Alaikum

Why do you have to make fun of me man lol