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gun culture was solely introduced by MQM! before 1990s
Dear you are wrong over here .... Gun culture was introduced in Karachi by Islami Jamiat e Talaba ... They introduced arms in Karachi university along with their influenced colleges ... In 1970's they were operate a militant group which were called thunder squad ... As well as they sent their militant group named al badar in East Pakistan before Dhaka fall ..
please tell me how many people did they ransom for money and shoot on streets in karachi? and then compare it with live footage of MQM in 2007 MAY 10th!!!
and you will have your answer!
please tell me how many people did they ransom for money and shoot on streets in karachi? and then compare it with live footage of MQM in 2007 MAY 10th!!!
and you will have your answer!
This is not a justification to keep arms by someone ... Anyhow would you tell how many cases proved of your mentioned charges against them ???????????
Pakhtuns dont carry guns with them when they go outside their home towns to earn. You wont see pakhtun labourer, driver or tandoorwala with gun in northern areas, kashmir, punjab, gulf countries and in baloch-dominated areas. If in karachi they are keeping guns then it means they were forced to do so for security reasons, some people were targeting them and they dont liked to be killed like sheeps and you must have heard about our "badal".
And MQM advertising itself as middle class party is not impressive. It is a mohajir party and there are no feudals among urban folk like them so they would naturally speak against feudals. Moreover they criticize wadairas because of their anti-sindhi sentiments.
Check out JUI-F members, they are not even from middle class but from poor background. Another great example is jumat e islami. With far more better organization, merit system and members with middle class background who make progress from student life as IJT members.
@pak-marine is their any reality to MQM's claim that next CM will be from MQM? or MQM is just exaggerating things here? will they get the majority in sindh?
PPP,ANP and MQM have been tried and tested time to give another team a chance! this team must retire and Pakistan should move on!
sorry not true! balochistan has hazare,pathans,balochis and punjabis!
similarly the "HAZARA province movement" is from within the NWFP! clearly the hazara division is a major part of NWFP.
then in punjab you have seraykis and bhawalpuris and chachachis and pashtuns in attock. and go to lahore and see almost all tandoor walas are pathans! so what is your point???
If every party has a land grabbing unit it doesn't mean MQM has a right to have one,
brother whats wrong is wrong. And MQM were the first landgrabbers in Karachi commanded by the Babur Ghauri. Lets get your fact right i am karachite and i hate MQM just for one reasons they try to be badmash.
O Bhai, there must be a limit to lies and deceit, Karachi has attracted more of the criminal elements of Pashtun then any other area of Pakistan. I mean look at all the terrorists of the country, they are almost all from the Pashtun tribes, why is terrorism the main trade of Pashtun? And do the pashtun carry out terrorism, throughout the country and outside it too, without weapons??? Where are all the illegal weapons made??? Who is responsible and involved in all the drug trade and smuggling??? Do they do all that without weapons??? Is all that terrorism and weapons use for ...... humanitarian missions???
Everyone must have heard of Pashtun "badal", (badla I take it?), well for a great many years pashtun had a great ride on the non-violent, laid back and hard working Mohajir in Karachi......well until early 1980's atleast and then Mohajirs had enough of the looting/plundering/harassment etc. MQM has almost always responded to actions of these fitnas and not initiated anything. I mean, its these pashtun that are coming to Karachi in hoardes and for illegal activities, they mostly even live in illegally occupied kachi abadis in Karachi, and not us Mohajirs going to the pashtun areas!!!!
Yeah, the IJT members are shining examples of humans, as if most of us have not been to school and colleges in Karachi. We, the real Karachiites, are well aware of ground realities of everyone and yet we continue to support MQM over others, that is proof enough of what MQM is and what propaganda is!
MQM is not in a position to post a CM in Sindh. It's like IK claiming that he will whitewash the elections, BB and AZ claiming that PPP will form the government in the centre and in all the provinces too, NS making similar claims etc. Big talk from all political parties.
Which team, other then APML??
Quite off the mark there bro, the first real land grabbers in Pakistan were the feudals, the first real land grabbers in Karachi were the Sindhi folks who formed illegal kachi abadis (goths) but they had no political reasons, they were here only for livelihood and could not really afford to purchase land. Then came in the pashtun from the northern areas who began to populate land illegally. After that came political reasons to bring in Sindhis from interior Sindh into Karachi to break the vote bank of Jamaat and finally Afghan refugees escaped their restricted living areas to occupy land illegally in Karachi. MQM came way after them all but yes there are individuals in MQM who are involved in land grabbing. However, MQM is a very small part of this massive tyranny that plagues Karachi and people from outside Karachi are responsible from then anybody else. Lately Mr. Tappi's name has surfaced as the most influential person behind some of the most high profile lang grabbing cases in Karachi.
O Bhai, there must be a limit to lies and deceit, Karachi has attracted more of the criminal elements of Pashtun then any other area of Pakistan. I mean look at all the terrorists of the country, they are almost all from the Pashtun tribes, why is terrorism the main trade of Pashtun? And do the pashtun carry out terrorism, throughout the country and outside it too, without weapons??? Where are all the illegal weapons made??? Who is responsible and involved in all the drug trade and smuggling??? Do they do all that without weapons??? Is all that terrorism and weapons use for ...... humanitarian missions???
Everyone must have heard of Pashtun "badal", (badla I take it?), well for a great many years pashtun had a great ride on the non-violent, laid back and hard working Mohajir in Karachi......well until early 1980's atleast and then Mohajirs had enough of the looting/plundering/harassment etc. MQM has almost always responded to actions of these fitnas and not initiated anything. I mean, its these pashtun that are coming to Karachi in hoardes and for illegal activities, they mostly even live in illegally occupied kachi abadis in Karachi, and not us Mohajirs going to the pashtun areas!!!!
Yeah, the IJT members are shining examples of humans, as if most of us have not been to school and colleges in Karachi. We, the real Karachiites, are well aware of ground realities of everyone and yet we continue to support MQM over others, that is proof enough of what MQM is and what propaganda is!
MQM is not in a position to post a CM in Sindh. It's like IK claiming that he will whitewash the elections, BB and AZ claiming that PPP will form the government in the centre and in all the provinces too, NS making similar claims etc. Big talk from all political parties.
Which team, other then APML??
Very bigoted and racist views based on lies....
MQM is fasad ki jar there