MQM launches ‘movement for separate province'

[Amaa'n]

Will Pakistan allow Indian high commission to host private tea party anf dinner with separatists ? Like you want to hold talks with kashmi separatist ? separati

well keeping it as close possible to the topic and not going into Kashmir dispute....then both cases are different....this particular one is asking for a Separate 'Province' and not ' a Country' , so no we will not allow such things

 

[Armstrong]

@dexter @HRK @Jazzbot - I too want to have a separate province carved out of Lahore called Buttistan !

 

[Jazzbot]

Please always be truthful even in the middle of the battle. I agree with your post but not the last sentence. I have watched that program where Altaf was referring to Allama Iqbal who wrote that poem. His argument was that I (AH) have my POV just like Iqbal had who went on writing 'saarey jahan sey achha'. Again, be truthful and honest and never ever try to twist the facts.

I agree, but his (AH's) intentions were different. We all know when Sir Allama Iqbal wrote that poem under what circumstances. The time when he wrote that poem, the idea of Pakistan wasn't even born. At that time, Quad-e-Azam was either not part of politics or was a part of Congress and was striving for united India.

Can AH quote any poem like Sare Jahan se Acha Hindustan Hamara, after the struggle for Independent Muslim Country aka Pakistan had started? Allama Iqbal had those views about India when Pakistan was not even in dreams, but AH on the other hand has such views about India when Pakistan is a reality since past 68 years. Still no difference?

called Buttistan !

That sounds way too much retarded, I wouldn't like to live in such a place even if I'll be offered first class citizen's privileges. What would you tell others where you live?

 

[Armstrong]

That sounds way too much retarded, I wouldn't like to live in such a place even if I'll be offered first class citizen's privileges. What would you tell others where you live?

Traitor !

 

[Jazzbot]

Yeah right .... I have bolded above parts to show as an example how touchy you got when it comes to POTY - PTI .. so save it and dont try and score political points .. Same altaf the toad was blammed for all the anti state conspiracies a decade and a half back but same were taken back by the those who accused him .. between saray jahan say acha was written by Iqbal .. SO !?

This discussion with you is fast proving to be worthless, so I'm off. Good luck with your new province.

 

[ice_man]

Will Pakistan allow Indian high commission to host private tea party anf dinner with separatists ? Like you want to hold talks with kashmi separatist ? separati

Kashmir is disputed territory even UN agrees to it NEHRU agreed to it.

Is Assam disputed you can complain if we wish to talk to ASSAM seperatists!

no try to troll

 

[syedali73]

I agree, but his (AH's) intentions were different. We all know when Sir Allama Iqbal wrote that poem under what circumstances. The time when he wrote that poem, the idea of Pakistan wasn't even born. At that time, Quad-e-Azam was either not part of politics or was a part of Congress and was striving for united India.

Can AH quote any poem like Sare Jahan se Acha Hindustan Hamara, after the struggle for Independent Muslim Country aka Pakistan had started? Allama Iqbal had those views about India when Pakistan was not even in dreams, but AH on the other hand has such views about India when Pakistan is a reality since past 68 years. Still no difference?

Below is the transcript of what Altaf Hussein said:

Altaf Hussein: Mein, meri apni philosophy hey, meri philosophy sey aap ikhtilaaf kar sakyey hein. Allama Iqbal ka mazaar is bunyad par ukhad kar phenk diya jye... saarey jahan sey acha Hindustaan hamara hamara?

Hamid Mir: Theek hey…

Altaf Hussein: Ab iss bunyaad par Allama Iqbal kaa mazaar ukhaad kar phenk diya jye keyh tum ney Hindustan ko achha kaha. Aisey nahin hota hey.

Now you can clearly see that Altaf Hussein is only defending himself by giving an example. It is not about what Iqbal wrote post 1908 etc. All I am saying is, try not to blame someone for something that he has not said in the first place, no matter how much you dislike him or disagree with him.

Altaf Hussein has gone wrong on so many things that he has become undefendable. MQM knows this too so I wont take their latest gimmick, a separate province for Urdu speakers, too seriously. Bey waqt ki raagni hey. Many provinces are needed, but not under present circumstances when enemy is hell-bent on weakening Pakistan both from outside and from within. This is time for political stability and to back the government so that military could do its job with full concentration.

 

[Jazzbot]

Traitor !

You want a province to be carved out of the great Lahore and then you call me traitor?

Oh well, put that Buttistan on hold for a while. I'm eating a very tasty biryani made by my mom, want some?

 

[Mughal-Prince]

URDU SPEAKING PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT MQM. the only ones that do are the ones who have family members working for them.

Hahahaha you have no Idea! Even those who's family members are in army and establishment will support this cause for a province. If and only if MQM would have said for a separate country that would be 200% backfire. Believe me being an Urdu speaker I love this country from my heart and soul and take proud in every achievement no matter from which race of my country has achieved. Sindhi, Balochi, Pathan, Punjabi, Hazarewal, Kashmiri, Gilgiti, Siraiki I don't care I take proud in their achievements, I feel sad in their grief, I feel happy when I find out something good happening to them. I appreciate the way Puktoons Vote, I appreciate when a Punjabi dies while fighting furiously with a terrorist even now I am having tears in my eyes and unable to type. This is my country and they all are my people I love them with my heart and soul and if required and asked I will give my last drop of blood for them. But it seriously hurts when I encountered with Son Of Soil mentality and that happens frequently because a huge chunk of my family is in Army and Establisment as well as in power circles of Pakistan and almost every week I heard a new story happens with some of my Urdu Speaking relative.

I firmly believe that we need an Urdu or Raikhta Sooba(Province) minus MQM. Why I said minus MQM because although I support them but I know them as well. I am well wisher of their good deeds like excellent discipline, work management, vision, integration with people but I am afraid of their fascist behaviour.
I hope you people try to understand every thing has its merit.

 

[Mav3rick]

yes this will be followed up by a separate country!

they are completing their MASTER INDIA's plan. MQM is GHADAR

URDU SPEAKING PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT MQM. the only ones that do are the ones who have family members working for them.

Asking for an independent province, where the mandate of the people can actually be implemented rather then imposition of mandate of our Rural brothers, is 'GHADDARI'?

As per the last census, Lahore has over 18% population of Urdu Speaker, second largest community in Lahore after Punjabis. But no one of these urdu speakers have any issue. Why only Karachi's urdu speaker have these issues?

Name is not an issue, MQM shouldn't be allowed a separate province at any cost. The anti state thugs running MQM will take advantage from such province to forward their own agenda. These thugs shouldn't be allowed to have control over a small city, let alone an entire province..

If you can take off the blinds and look at the plights of Karachi, which has been ruled by rural policies, you wouldn't post such BS.

Will Pakistan allow Indian high commission to host private tea party anf dinner with separatists ? Like you want to hold talks with kashmi separatist ? separati

You already do that, and a whole lot more. Ask any BLA or TTP member!

Give them a province in Inida.

That too......but only after the conquest of India.

I have always supported establishment of more provinces but at this point of time, I totally reject MQM's call.

They are indeed 10 years too late, but better late then never buddy.

you wrote why urdu speaking dont demand a province and why are they asking for karachi so what does that mean .. for once be little fair .. you dont have to continue trolling for PTI 24/7

Actually, he has to troll.....he has been doing it ever since he joined. You can read any of his posts.

Sure, LG elections some how magically exist in a vacuum without any representation in the provincial assembly, or will Mayors office pass a new province order? How exactly will this be working? As for by elections, we still have to wait for the resignations to be accepted, or as was the case with PTI resignations, the issue might be dragged. MQM thought its a Zero sum game and some how they can twist governments arm and stop the Karachi operation, but it was a great strategic mistake on part of MQM.

And as for your typical rant of Wadeyras and blab blab, please don't insult the intelligence of Karachities. They are more sick of terrorism and thuggery by MQM than any wadeyras. By the way MQM been a part of this wadeyra assembly since day one, so cut the useless rhetoric. It aint working outside hardcore MQM numbskull racists voters.

Yes, and I have been a resident of Karachi for 30 years so I am also responsible for every bad in the city!

Beautiful logic!

 

[waleed3601]

New Province? Yes.
New province ruled by MQM? Hell no.
@Menace2Society can you post that map that you once posted which suggested 20 or more something provinces for Pakistan based on major ethnic group residing in that area? Thx.

 

[ice_man]

Asking for an independent province, where the mandate of the people can actually be implemented rather then imposition of mandate of our Rural brothers, is 'GHADDARI'?






Beautiful logic!

Yes 100% Ghadari if you want it on ethnic grounds. if you want it on administrative grounds we can understand.

Specially when the leader is a british national who asks INDIA for help. secondly he calls division of Pakistan a mistake. then his party worker accuses him of taking money from RAW

THEN YES clearly it is GHADARI.

 

[Xenophon]

Urdu Speaking dnt support mqm anymore but we do need a separate province these sindhis are totally corrupt , illiterate and criminals.

 

[ice_man]

Hahahaha you have no Idea! Even those who's family members are in army and establishment will support this cause for a province. If and only if MQM would have said for a separate country that would be 200% backfire. Believe me being an Urdu speaker I love this country from my heart and soul and take proud in every achievement no matter from which race of my country has achieved. Sindhi, Balochi, Pathan, Punjabi, Hazarewal, Kashmiri, Gilgiti, Siraiki I don't care I take proud in their achievements, I feel sad in their grief, I feel happy when I find out something good happening to them. I appreciate the way Puktoons Vote, I appreciate when a Punjabi dies while fighting furiously with a terrorist even now I am having tears in my eyes and unable to type. This is my country and they all are my people I love them with my heart and soul and if required and asked I will give my last drop of blood for them. But it seriously hurts when I encountered with Son Of Soil mentality and that happens frequently because a huge chunk of my family is in Army and Establisment as well as in power circles of Pakistan and almost every week I heard a new story happens with some of my Urdu Speaking relative.

I firmly believe that we need an Urdu or Raikhta Sooba(Province) minus MQM. Why I said minus MQM because although I support them but I know them as well. I am well wisher of their good deeds like excellent discipline, work management, vision, integration with people but I am afraid of their fascist behaviour.
I hope you people try to understand every thing has its merit.

ok don't cry but do tell me is any province made on ethnicity correct?

make 200 provinces but on administrative grounds.

and IF MQM leader who is british national asks for help from INDIA and RAW on live tv. and calls creation of PAKISTAN a mistake then i am sorry i will never support it.

 

[Xenophon]

Well they can start whatever they want but there will be no new provinces made on the basis of ethnic lines. Heck I doubt there will be any new provinces made at all. Mqm is becoming dangerous. In thirst for complete power they will do anything even if it means causing riots and death. The govt must make sure to not to bend down to this demand.

Jeez these thugs can't sit down for one second.

Then why we have 4 province on the basis of ethnicity?