MQM launches ‘movement for separate province'

[Mav3rick]

RAW funding is a lie for the weak mind.... ok for the sake of argument accepted.

however, please explain demand on live tv for calling india for help calling RAW for help?

JIT is also a lie stating most target killers are MUTHAIDA kay launday?

as for stone hurled earlier, well Altaf said 13 years ago that division of india was wrong. but we won't go that far..

i am sure you want to discuss sazish's after 2011 onwards right? against mazool bhai and his mazloom launday

You want to touch on so many subjects and discuss so many things simultaneously that it takes the whole essence of decency out of any argument. The purpose is usually lost.

But, lets discuss a couple of more important ones. Now, as for the help from India, are you referring to the video clip where he was speaking to an Indian audience or some telephonic speech? The call to India and RAW were sarcastic calls based on assumption that MQM is an Indian proxy as was being propagated at that time.

By the way, let me be very clear about 1 thing, whenever you call MQM a terrorist organization or a treacherous organization, you are calling all its supporters traitors and terrorists. And that will invoke an equally absurd response so my suggestion is to avoid doing that.

AH did say that the partition was a big blunder.........was it not? What sane mind could still say that the partition wasn't a major blunder when we have already lost more than half of our land and resources and have also fought 3.5 wars with India because of partition era disputes that were not settled at that time? What about our water and other disputes??

JITs are formed to investigate certain crimes, not to issue statements as you have posted above. Perhaps you meant that most of the JITs have been formed against MQM activists or against people who are associated with MQM. Or maybe you were confusing the SC observation which said that most of the target killers belonged to MQM.......however, did not the same observation implicate all other parties?

The problem today is that 'everyone' who is picked up by Rangers is an MQM activist and is involved in target killing. Honestly, they have arrested over 5000 people who are supposed to be target killers.......is that just not insane? Can there literally be 5000 target killers? Seriously think about it. And there need not be a conviction either because even those who are released by courts are labelled target killers. If you consider the background, it is all propaganda. It's not as if MQM has no target killers or other criminal elements but to say that every target killer and criminal belongs to MQM and none to any other party is outright criminal.

 

[Patriots]

یار تم لوگ مہاجر اور الطاف حسین کو الگ تصور کر ہی نہیں سکتے ـ اگر کسی نے الطاف یا ایم.کیو ایم کے خلاف بولا تو اس کا مطلب وہ شخص مہاجروں سے نفرت کرتا ہے اور مہاجروں کے خلاف ہے ـ مگر کیا یہی کلیہ سندھیوں پہ لگایا جا سکتا ہے؟ کسی نے پیپلز پارٹی یا بھٹو کو برا کہا رو اسے سندھیوں سے نفرت ہے؟
یا ولی خان اور اے این پی کو برا کہنے والا پٹھانوں کا مخالف ہے؟
لیکن تم لوگوں کی یہی ذہنیت ہے ـ
ایم.کیو ایم اور مہاجر یک جان دو قالب ہیں . مگر ہم باقی پاکستانی ایسا نہیں سمجھتے ـ تو مسٰلہ تم لوگوں میں بھی ہے ـ
تمھیں تمہاری پارٹی خوف میں مبتلا کر کہ سیاست کر رہی ہے ـ

آپ کی بات سے بالکل اتفاق نہیں ہے ۔۔۔ ھم چار بھائی ہیں ۔۔۔ میں مہاجر آئیڈیالوجی کو بالکل نہیں مانتا لیکن ایم کیو ایم کو کو سب سے بہترین سیاسی جماعت سمجھتا ہوں سوائے مہاجر سیاست کے ۔۔۔ میرا ایک بھائی ایم کیو ایم کی سیاست سے اتفاق نہیں کرتا لیکن مہاجر کمیونٹی کی بات کرتا ہے اس نے آج تک ایم کیو ایم کو ووٹ نہیں دیا اپنی زندگی کا پہلا ووٹ پی ٹی آئی کو دیا تھا جس پر اب افسوس کرتا ہے ۔۔۔ ایک بھائی نا ایم کیو ایم کی سیاست کو اچھا سمجھتا ہے اور نہ مہاجرازم کو ۔۔۔ وہ مذہبی جماعتوں کو بہتر سمجھتا ہے ۔۔۔ ایک بھائی ایم کیو ایم کی بھی حمایت کرتا ہے اور مہاجر قومیت کی بھی ۔۔۔ لیکن چاروں میں سے ایک بھی الطاف حسین کے بڑبولے پن کو اچھا نہیں سمجھتا اور سب اس پر متفق ہیں کہ اگر الطاف حسین قیادت چھوڑ دے تو ایم کیو ایم سے بہتر جماعت پاکستان میں اور کوئی نہیں ہوگی ۔۔۔ اس سب کے باوجود نہ ہم کسی خوف میں مبتلا ہیں اور نہ ھی ھمیں مہاجروں سے نفرت کرنے والا تصور کیا جاتا ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔

 

[ice_man]

You want to touch on so many subjects and discuss so many things simultaneously that it takes the whole essence of decency out of any argument. The purpose is usually lost.

But, lets discuss a couple of more important ones. Now, as for the help from India, are you referring to the video clip where he was speaking to an Indian audience or some telephonic speech? The call to India and RAW were sarcastic calls based on assumption that MQM is an Indian proxy as was being propagated at that time.

By the way, let me be very clear about 1 thing, whenever you call MQM a terrorist organization or a treacherous organization, you are calling all its supporters traitors and terrorists. And that will invoke an equally absurd response so my suggestion is to avoid doing that.

AH did say that the partition was a big blunder.........was it not? What sane mind could still say that the partition wasn't a major blunder when we have already lost more than half of our land and resources and have also fought 3.5 wars with India because of partition era disputes that were not settled at that time? What about our water and other disputes??

JITs are formed to investigate certain crimes, not to issue statements as you have posted above. Perhaps you meant that most of the JITs have been formed against MQM activists or against people who are associated with MQM. Or maybe you were confusing the SC observation which said that most of the target killers belonged to MQM.......however, did not the same observation implicate all other parties?

The problem today is that 'everyone' who is picked up by Rangers is an MQM activist and is involved in target killing. Honestly, they have arrested over 5000 people who are supposed to be target killers.......is that just not insane? Can there literally be 5000 target killers? Seriously think about it. And there need not be a conviction either because even those who are released by courts are labelled target killers. If you consider the background, it is all propaganda. It's not as if MQM has no target killers or other criminal elements but to say that every target killer and criminal belongs to MQM and none to any other party is outright criminal.

it is good you tried to change the topic but anyhow i will reply to you. even though i doubt anything will get through.

1) HE called for indian help and RAW help and RABITA COMMITTEE wrote a letter to indian government along with other country government. NOW how is there two point of views on this? no if's and but's its clear writing letter to india asking for help is something that BLA would do. so MQM doing it makes it into BLA type of ghadar. you said he was being "sarcastic" well sorry but you can't ask for help and write letters and then deny all and say i was joking. Its like TTP leader turns around one day and says hey guys we were joking.


2) as for MQM being ghadar as stated in point one asking for indian help and writting letter to india for help and claims of RAW funding by BBC which by the way MQM hasn't filed a defamation case against BBC yet. proves ghadari. so yes MQM is ghadar and like any TTP supporter and BLA supporter anyone supporting MQM NOW AFTER FINDING ALL THIS OUT. is equal to being a ghadar. sorry but no one can support a party that writes to india for help.

3) partition was a blunder? really how, the disputes with india exist no denying it but does that make all the QURABNIS of Pakistanis a blunder. India thinks creation of Pakistan was a blunder and hence the disputes with them. NO PAKISTANI except maybe BLA think Pakistan is a blunder. go tell the 3 million people who died at partition that it is a blunder. one more question for you why did ALTAF GO TO INDIA and call Pakistan a blunder but he doesn't come to Pakistan, isn't that also another proof of his ghadari?

4) JIT of Karachi target killers named MOST and let me repeat MOST target killers belong to MQM. So is IB,MI & Police intelligence lying now? and since the so called 5000 people picked up by LEAs hasn't target killing come down? clearly MQMwas involved even altaf bhai said it maybe you might again say he was "being sarcastic" that CHINA CUTTERS,TARGET KILLERS AND BHATTA KHAUR should leave MQM. so they do exist.

5) now other party killers such as Uzair Baloch are on the run. the ANP is completely finished off as a militant wing same goes for TTP cells in karachi. however, i don't see ANP or JI OR other parties asking for a province.


MQM is crying because its TERRORIST ASSETS are being targeted perfectly. 5000 launday pakray according to you but so many set free.

remeber the video of 90 raid where waqas shah murder was being blamed on RANGERS only later a video emerged showing a muthaida ka Launda shot the poor kid.

 

[iapk1]

They tried their best but didnt fulfill the Mission of RAW

 

[Patriots]

 

[Patriots]

A shameless creature ......

 

[Asian.Century]

MQM-P being compelled to launch South Sindh province campaign
* Farooq Sattar says his party will boycott elections if it is not allowed to do politics under the country's constitution

Muzammil Ferozi

KARACHI: Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-Pakistan) senior leader Farooq Sattar said on Tuesday that his party was being compelled to announce a campaign for a south Sindh province.

The MQM-P leader was addressing a press conference at PIB Colony.

Sattar said that the chronic shortfall of water in the port city needed to addressed, adding that all basic problems of the people must be dealt without any political influence.

Sattar said it was a victory for the party’s voters that both factions were contesting the election on the symbol of kite.

“I congratulate all members of MQM-P that we have been allotted our customary election symbol kite,” said Sattar, who later announced a campaign for a south Sindh province. He said the province was required on administrative basis.

“We are going to take part in the upcoming election and yet some forces are unwilling to accept us as a political reality,” he said, adding that it was in front of the public how the MQM was targeted.

While speaking on the census, he said that the census wasn’t carried out in the right manner and his party faced discrimination even before the elections, “There was a lack of fairness in the census so that elections could be manipulated in favour of specific units and languages, I, therefore, demand that a separate province be made in south Sindh. There should not just be two, but 100s of administrative units. We are ready to struggle for that.”

He said that there was complete consensus in the MQM ranks over the issue of a separate province in Sindh. Sattar said that the MQM’s mandate was being given to others. “We are not being ‘minused’, we have been ‘minused’,” he said.

Regarding the tussle between PIB and Bahadrabad factions, Sattar said he had extended a hand of friendship to Bahadrabad faction and that was why the two groups were able to hold a jalsa to prove to their detractors that the muhajjir community was united in its state of deprivation.

Sattar said that like other parties, the MQM-Pakistan must be allowed to engage in politics in accordance with the country’s constitution. He said the party’s offices that had been sealed must be re-opened immediately. Otherwise, he said, the MQM-P reserved the right to boycott the upcoming election. “We will continue our struggle until injustices against us continues unaffected,” he said, adding that Sindh Chief Minister Murad Ali Shah and Peoples Party leader Khursheed Shah were used to giving malicious statements against the Urdu speaking community.

Sattar requested to ECP to take action against violation of rules in the delimitation process.

Separately, the MQM-P parliamentary party has proposed the name of Sheikh Aftab Ahmed as the caretaker Sindh CM.

Published in Daily Times, May 31st 2018.

 

[Asian.Century]

South Sindh, Karachi, South Punjab, Hazara, and 2 in Balochistan all needs to be created on administrative lines.