MPVs (Four 600 T, Two 1500T) for the PMSA - Discussions

[Certain Somebody]

First of SIX? Wasn't there another thread here on PDF stating that KSEW had "lost" the construction of four of the six, and will build only two?

 

[Cool_Soldier]

yes, that is mentioned and being discussed in another thread.

 

[nomi007]

ARE they are base upon
Type 056 corvette

 

[Penguin]

is there any weapon this ship can carry ? like SAM or anti ship missile?

This is an PMSA ship, i.e. a civilian government ship not a navy ship. It is not intended to carry antiship missiles or surface to air missiles: those capabilities are not needed for execution of its tasks.

 

[war&peace]

I hope they design and develop bigger ships i.e. thousands of tons

 

[313baberali]

@Muhammad Omar
You can find details regarding MPV in this thread
Other MPV related threads
https://defence.pk/threads/steel-cutting-ceremony-for-pakistan-maritime-security-agency-pmsa.422100/

https://defence.pk/threads/due-to-h...truction-of-4-maritime-patrol-vessels.428800/

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

These will be a force multiplier to "peeli patti"

 

[Pathan khan]

Well th

This is an PMSA ship, i.e. a civilian government ship not a navy ship. It is not intended to carry antiship missiles or surface to air missiles: those capabilities are not needed for execution of its tasks.

Well these ships are for Pakistan Maritime Security agency but it can be used in war times by installing missile launchers as it have vacant space.
Secondly both classes (600t 1500t) posses a helicopter hanger .which means that it can park a helicopter like z9ec. Which can be used for anti submarine warfare

 

[Hassan Guy]

Yo, we ever gonna get that aircraft carrier? Maybe after 2030.

 

[Penguin]

Well th

Well these ships are for Pakistan Maritime Security agency but it can be used in war times by installing missile launchers as it have vacant space.
Secondly both classes (600t 1500t) posses a helicopter hanger .which means that it can park a helicopter like z9ec. Which can be used for anti submarine warfare

Just because there is deck space doesn't mean these ships are suitable platforms. You also need to be able to detect targets to target your missiles. And have self-defence capability. A helicopter like Z-9EC could perform ASW but if the base vessel is not sonar equiped the heli must have a dipping sonar and/or ability to launch ASW buoys and process signal from them. Platform must also be able to refuel and rearm and maintain the heli. Z-9EC has a low frequency dipping sonar and can carry light ASW torpedoes.

Where on deck would you place those AShM? Where is the helicopter hangar and support facility?

As for the 1500 ton ship, depends on whether it is Type 056 based or e.g. Haixun class cutter. Here too, the question is where the missiles would go + self defence.

056 Coast Guard OPV

Haixun class MSA cutter

 

[Arsalan]

Just because there is deck space doesn't mean these ships are suitable platforms. You also need to be able to detect targets to target your missiles. And have self-defence capability. A helicopter like Z-9EC could perform ASW but if the base vessel is not sonar equiped the heli must have a dipping sonar and/or ability to launch ASW buoys and process signal from them. Platform must also be able to refuel and rearm and maintain the heli. Z-9EC has a low frequency dipping sonar and can carry light ASW torpedoes.

Where on deck would you place those AShM? Where is the helicopter hangar and support facility?

As for the 1500 ton ship, depends on whether it is Type 056 based or e.g. Haixun class cutter. Here too, the question is where the missiles would go + self defence.

056 Coast Guard OPV

Haixun class MSA cutter

Simply put, the ship is not built for this role. Only being a 1500 ton platform do not means you can covert that into a ASW or AShW frigate/corvette! This ship is build for coastal PATROL and that is what it will be doing.

 

[Pathan khan]

So i

Just because there is deck space doesn't mean these ships are suitable platforms. You also need to be able to detect targets to target your missiles. And have self-defence capability. A helicopter like Z-9EC could perform ASW but if the base vessel is not sonar equiped the heli must have a dipping sonar and/or ability to launch ASW buoys and process signal from them. Platform must also be able to refuel and rearm and maintain the heli. Z-9EC has a low frequency dipping sonar and can carry light ASW torpedoes.

Where on deck would you place those AShM? Where is the helicopter hangar and support facility?

As for the 1500 ton ship, depends on whether it is Type 056 based or e.g. Haixun class cutter. Here too, the question is where the missiles would go + self defence.

056 Coast Guard OPV

Haixun class MSA cutter

So it means this deal is same like f22p. These ships are just for chokidari?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Looks like a wonderful design , very modern and offers enough for Anti Piracy and rescue missions

Appears around same size as our fast attack craft

Almost same design just missing room for weapons and of course missing heavy weaponry and systems

Which also is a 560 Ton Ship (Around 600 Ton range)

This would have been nice to have 4-5 of theses with detachable speed boat

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Yo, we ever gonna get that aircraft carrier? Maybe after 2030.

No, we don't need one. Aircraft Carriers are for those countries who have large maritime borders, overseas territory or a far-away hostile country.

 

[Penguin]

Looks like a wonderful design , very modern and offers enough for Anti Piracy and rescue missions

Appears around same size as our fast attack craft

Almost same design just missing room for weapons and of course missing heavy weaponry and systems

Which also is a 560 Ton Ship (Around 600 Ton range)

Yes, but the latter is designed for higher speeds and will have lesser endurance. It is also designed and fitted out in such a way that it can mount AShM AND effectively used them.