Mossad, Bush planned, executed 9/11

[Indos]

As for our military budget, if you cannot find the US defense budget in comparison to other US social programs, then there is no hope for you as an aspiring economists, as you pointed out economics is not my competency. Nevertheless, I hope whatever sorry country you are from, all economists thinks like you do.

Do we have debate like always happening in Fox News ? I bet all US people understand Obamacare vs anti Obamacare..
So is it true that economy is trapped by politics ? But for me, I dont get understand with you all...in here, Indonesia we have already had Obamacare with so less money to pay (paying Government not private insurance company like in US ) and free health care for poor people. Even in some local government we have free hospital. Dont want to get to your never ending debate about that ....

 

[gambit]

Do we have debate like always happening in Fox News ? I bet all US people understand Obamacare vs anti Obamacare..
So is it true that economy is trapped by politics ? But for me, I dont get understand with you all...in here, Indonesia we have already had Obamacare with so less money to pay (paying Government not private insurance company like in US ) and free health care for poor people. Even in some local government we have free hospital. Dont want to get to your never ending debate about that ....

You should drop that 'THINK TANK' tag. More like 'THINKING TANKED' for you.

You chopped US for our defense budget without knowing how it is compare to other social programs. Now you are busted for your ignorance and absurd economic notion that war is an economic stimulus, you attempt to feebly evade by talking about health care.

 

[MastanKhan]

Lol hitting me where that's hurt.

If nut job conspiracist like you can believe US did 9/11 by themselves, then why can't I believe that there are WMD in Iraq?

You know the only problem I can see is? US had never attack their own soil prior to the alleged 9/11 inside job( unless you are one of those crazies who say US used Planes in Japanese marking to attack Pearl Harbor to suck US in war with Japan) but Iraq did use Chemical Weapon on Iran in 1988, so if I have to pick one to believe in, I would put my money at Iraqi had WMD than US 9/11 inside job

And ok, I'll bite, mr military expert, how many people should we use to capture or kill OBL in torabora? A battalion? An regiment? Or a Division?

Set aside if OBL were indeed in Torabora at that time (you say like you were next to him in Torabora) let's for argument sake, he is. Should we send a whole battalion of 600 soldier in and trying to trap OBL? While you are at it, maybe we should put an international joint task force of 1000 soldier in, or may be we should send the whole division of 10,000 men to capture a HVT.

Dude, did it ever occurs to you the local airfield and base were watched and monitored by Taliban? They will know if we have any large scale operation if we would brought in chopper load and truck load of reinforcement. Sending anything other tan a company may as well tie up a banner on a C-17 and fly around Torabora saying "Osama Bin Laden, we are doing to get you", it's not like OBL will stick around when the goon see a lot of US military movement in the area. Even the dumbest of the dumb knows that

You do know there were 4 Tier 1 team (2 delta, 2 devgru) how many more man do you want?

Plus there were also intel showing OBL were in Pakistan at that moment. So what were you to say if the intel he is in Torabora is correct and he was not in Pakistan, and vice versa.

And dude, you are expecting or assuming one side of intel is always right and disregard all other, even the delta and seals and SBS on scene does not know for sure that OBL is in Torabora when they were back there in 2001. You are telling me he is? Lol then either you are god or you were with OBL in Torabora, so, which one is it?

By the way, you still has not answer me what is the roles of NSA, CIA and FBI.

Jhungary,

You piece of fcuking sh-it----you should have put a whole division of troops to take out OBL at tora bora---because he was responsibvle for killing 3000 americans---and you ended up killing a million and a half of muslims in afghanistan and then contd to iraq to kill another million.

Fcuking ars-hole---you slaughtered my people without remorse because the very reason of invasion---you let escape---fcuck you---sob---.

You raped my mothers and sisters and daughter and sodomized my children---you made porno movies of your actions nd sought pleasure.

You know why there were no wm-ds' in iraq----because there was no glassware sold to iraq to produce wm--d's. You understand what glassware I am talking about---the one's used in microbiology labs---. These glss items have seril numbers and none of the countries that produced those items had any missing serial numbers and neither they had sold any of them to iraq----and that was even verified by Israel before the gulf war.

Next time at a university---go to a microbilogy lab and see the glass ware items----they have serial numbers assigned to them that can be traced back to the seller---and iraq had no facility to manufacture glass items.

I pity my countrymen and muslims----muslims being slaughtered in afghanistan and iraq by christian armies---and my worthless countrymen and muslim brethren are clueless as to what transpired---.

 

[Indos]

You should drop that 'THINK TANK' tag. More like 'THINKING TANKED' for you.

You chopped US for our defense budget without knowing how it is compare to other social programs. Now you are busted for your ignorance and absurd economic notion that war is an economic stimulus, you attempt to feebly evade by talking about health care.

I never say it...you misunderstood me. I think more logic poster should help me to understand you....My point is that Bush letting 9/11 to happen because his religious belief and agenda. Yeah some about oil as well, but not the first reason.

By the way, War as an economic stimulus is the way Republican understand it........I know it, but some others view it in a more complex way like me. Economics is not a game for one sided person, it should be seen as a holistic way. One sided thinking is like the way Reagan and Margaret Thacher rule their economy. Extreme approach in one side only, and it is the recipe for US and European economic failure in 2008.

Great depression of US in 1930's was recovered by war or by Keynesian ? Looking in holistic way where trade was starting to rise and only US infrastructure that was not destroyed at that time...and global trade was happening in a more healthy way...not protectionist any more. US product are everywhere. Many variables need to be put into account.

 

[gambit]

I never say it...you misunderstood me. I think more logic poster should help me to understand you....My point is that Bush letting 9/11 to happen because his religious belief and agenda. Yeah some about oil as well, but not the first reason.

In order for B43 to 'let it happened', he must have knew such an attack was imminent, and if he knew it was imminent, he must have knew for some time that it was planned. Might as well said B43 and Osama bin Laden were partners.

By the way, War as an economic stimulus is the way Republican understand it........I know it, but some others view it in a more complex way like me. Economics is not a game for one sided person, it should be seen as a holistic way. One sided thinking is like the way Reagan and Margaret Thacher rule their economy. Extreme approach in one side only, and it is the recipe for US and European economic failure in 2008.

Great depression of US in 1930's was helped by war or by Keynesian ? Looking to holistic way where trade was starting to rise and only US infrastructure that was not destroyed at that time...and global trade was happening in a more healthy way...not protectionist any more. US product are everywhere. Many variables need to be put into account.

Stop trying to portray yourself as some kind of economic 'expert'.

 

[Indos]

Hi,

To attach 9/11 with the escape of OBL at tora bora is far fethced. U S does not attack its own assets on its land like that at such a massive scale.

What happened at tora bora was the incompetence of the worst kind. OBL was let to escape on purpose---so that the war could continue---. This war---after the first few days---was hijacked and taken over by the defence contractors. It just became a war for money and money alone.

When a retd sergeant could make $200000 + a year with no taxes and a colonel retd could make in the range $300000 a year tax free, when they joined private contractors---the direction and ideology of the war changed directions.

Just for example---a seargenyt makes around $48000 to 60000 a year on active duty---a col around 80--90k a year.

I blame the pakistani for not seeing thru the ruse---the moment they saw the US let OBL escape at tora bora---they should have corralled their wagons against al qaeda---. They should have taken out OBL and his cohorts right then and there and executed him.

Pakistanis should have understood that under those circumstances---the longer OBL lived---the more problems pakistan will have.

Simply put---the day of his escape at Tora Bora---OBL became from a benign tumor to a malignant cancerous growth for pakistan.

Incidently---as it was not related to any corruption and bribe---thus the pakistani minds did not understand the significance of the scenario---. My poor simple minded pakistani brethren were just simply clueless to this deceit of world class.

Hi too buddy,

Yup, defense industry needs money of course.....and yes, Pakistan at that time should have helped to kill OBL. But maybe Pakistan leaders at that time knows exactly how powerful Taliban is in their own soil. Too afraid to make a move. Only great leader who dares to do it.

 

[Indos]

In order for B43 to 'let it happened', he must have knew such an attack was imminent, and if he knew it was imminent, he must have knew for some time that it was planned. Might as well said B43 and Osama bin Laden were partners.

I believe Indonesian intelligent can penetrate our terrorist cells...thats why we are successfull at curbing them. And Al-Qaeda at that time was so easily penetrated since it was still in one command, so I believe as well that CIA has the possibility to understand the whole plan already. Your inquiry report told that the reason of why Al-Qaeda operatives can do it so easy because FBI was not told. And of course we are debating theories now....every debater can get any information from the other side.