Modi greeted with Bharat Mata Ki Jai slogans at World Sufi Forum

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Modi greeted with Bharat Mata Ki Jai slogans at World Sufi Forum

Prime Minister Narendra Modi was greeted by loud chants of Bharat Mata Ki Jai (Hail to the Mother India) at the inaugural World Sufi Forum in New Delhi today.

The greeting to the prime minister by a predominantly Muslim audience comes in the backdrop of a bitter row over the slogan, triggered by RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat's comment that the young generation should be taught to praise Mother India.

In protest, All India Muslim Majlis-E-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM) chief Asaduddin Owaisi said he cannot be forced to say Bharat Mata Ki Jai to prove his patriotism.

"I don't chant that slogan. What are you going to do, (Mohan) Bhagwat sahab," the Lok Sabha MP from Hyderabad said, adding "I won't utter that (slogan) even if you put a knife to my throat".

On Wednesday, MIM legislator Waris Pathan was suspended from the Maharashtra Assembly when he followed his boss and refused to raise the slogan in the House.

"We will say Jai Hind but not Bharat Mata Ki Jai as there was no compulsion on this nor did the Constitution say it," Pathan said in the Assembly after being asked by a Shiv Sena MLA to say it.

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@Levina @Mentee @Spring Onion @jamahir @ranjeet

I am wondering if modi forced them to chant Bharat mata ki jai or by chanting it these sufis became any less Muslims

I am wondering if you will be accepting and respecting them as INDIANS now after they shouted this slogan and I am wondering if you would be expelling/suspending them if in near future they refuse to chant this slogan which BTW is unnecessary as anything .

And NOT chanting it does not make them any less Indian. So Hindu extremists need to review their own mentality regarding nationalism and anti-nationalism theories

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

I am wondering if you will be accepting and respecting them as INDIANS now after they shouted this slogan and I am wondering if you would be expelling/suspending them if in near future they refuse to chant this slogan which BTW is unnecessary as anything .

And NOT chanting it does not make them any less Indian. So Hindu extremists need to review their own mentality regarding nationalism and anti-nationalism theories

Plz quote my post where i quentioned their Indianness ?

Waris pathan was suspended for his arrogance and unparliamentary behaviour in the assembly.

Was he asked to chant it ?

Was he questioned about it ?

He himself picked the topic and started politicising it in an umparliamentry manner and got suspended for his behaviour not the slogan and now playing victim

 

[jaunty]

Did some one force them to chant it ?

Should not force anyone either way.

And what about about the fundamental duties ?

Fundamental duties are clearly outlined by the constitution. Nowhere does it say that you have to shout "bhatat mata ki jai". If someone does not want to do it, let him be.

 

[jamahir]

Who imposed this slogan in the world sufi forum ?

Did some one force them to chant it ?

1. there are always some muslims in india who try to outdo the sangh in nationalism and 99 percent times these are the mullah types, because both the mullah and the sanghi are against the progressiveness, spirituality and the universality of socialism.

so you are partially correct that some "muslims" in that audience would have shouted the slogan.

2. there is always the fear of attack by 'bajrang dal' or another such group.

3. the fear is doubled with the arrival of modi because he may arrange for some obscure law to be imposed on the organizers and the audience.

What u have to say about maulana who said that this slogan has nothing to do with religion and Ppl like u are making a political issue out of a nonissue ?

i don't know of this... who was the maulana??

And what about about the fundamental duties ?

i saw your posting of the 'fundamental duties' to @Spring Onion ... if you actually read those you will find that the sangh and the indian corporate world go contrary to all but one of those.

 

[HariPrasad]

Yes one by proving his stature of 53'' chest and the other running about 20 years late.
But then fan boys have the habit of talking through their butt.

20 years and 52" chest is secondary thing. What is important is the butt hurt they caused. I can see it clearly and it is increasing day by day.

 

[jamahir]

Plz quote my post where i quentioned their Indianness ?

Waris pathan was suspended for his arrogance and unparliamentary behaviour in the assembly.

Was he asked to chant it ?

Was he questioned about it ?

He himself picked the topic and started politicising it in an umparliamentry manner and got suspended for his behaviour not the slogan and now playing victim

i don't like aimim really but i have watched waris pathan on the 'aaj tak' panel discussion program at 6 pm... there were three sangh representatives ( including one female from shiv sena )... all three were verbally lynching him and one of them demanded that he chant it.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

Should not force anyone either way.



Fundamental duties are clearly outlined by the constitution. Nowhere does it say that you have to shout "bhatat mata ki jai". If someone does not want to do it, let him be.

Understand the context of the post (and the person i am replying to ) in which i am talking about fundamental duties.

With rights comes duties as well.

One of the duties is not to create divide on the basis or religion and to proptect the integritity of the nation.

Now you chant it or not is "totally you choice" but dont give it religious colour either.

Which i am totally against

i don't like aimim really but i have watched waris pathan on the 'aaj tak' panel discussion program at 6 pm... there were three sangh representatives ( including one female from shiv sena )... all three were verbally lynching him and one of them demanded that he chant it.

i don't like aimim really but i have watched waris pathan on the 'aaj tak' panel discussion program at 6 pm... there were three sangh representatives ( including one female from shiv sena )... all three were verbally lynching him and one of them demanded that he chant it.

Were those sanghis the members of Legislative assembly of Maharashtra ?

Or were they speaking in assembly at that time ?

There is a code of conduct to be followed in assembly which waris pathan didnt and got suspended. How hard is it to comprehend ?

 

[jaunty]

Now you chant it or not is "totally you choice" but dont give it religious colour either.

There can be any number of reasons for not shouting "bharat mata ki jai", including religious. You may not like it ( I don't like it too personally) but there is nothing wrong in that. Shouting or not shouting a slogan should not be a test of patriotism.

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

There can be any number of reasons for not shouting "bharat mata ki jai", including religious. You may not like it ( I don't like it too personally) but there is nothing wrong in that. Shouting or not shouting a slogan should not be a test of patriotism.

Again u are asuming too much on my behalf.

I am not questioning their patriotism. I am questioning their basis of rejection.

They are givving a religious colour to their personal belief resulting in a divide in the society.

If they have the right to express themselves ignoring the funtamental duty of not to create any divide in the society on religious lines.

I have the right to question their motives

Deal with it.

 

[Jamwal's]

Syed Atta Husnain is a father figure for Garhwal Scouts and Commander of entire Indian Army in Kashmir.

So it was expected from him,a great son of soil.

 

[Nexus]

Few agents of Hindus does not represent Muslims, i am Sufi Muslim my self and i know that biggest center of Sufis in subcontinent Baraily have discard this meeting as govt funded fake conference...

Muslims Ko Divide Karne Ka Full Plan (AIUMB) | Haq Baat

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they are representing Sufis of India, not Pakistan.

 

[jamahir]

Were those sanghis the members of Legislative assembly of Maharashtra ?

i am sure the bjp spokesman is not but i don't know about the female shiv sena spokesperson.

There is a code of conduct to be followed in assembly which waris pathan didnt and got suspended. How hard is it to comprehend ?

surely the maharashtra state parliament accepts the indian constitution and i don't think the constitution makes it the fundamental duty of every indian citizen from the age 4 to chant "bharat mata ki jai".

 

[HariPrasad]

Who imposed this slogan in the world sufi forum ?

Did some one force them to chant it ?

What u have to say about maulana who said that this slogan has nothing to do with religion and Ppl like u are making a political issue out of a nonissue ?

And what about about the fundamental duties ?

Yes ,

Some time maulan dose commendable job. One maulan in ayodya declared that We are sanatan dharmi and Lord shiva was the first prophet of Islam. We indian Muslims are basically sanatan dharmis.

 

[Dragon4]

Put a Muslim soldier in front of Owaisi and then see. Majority of the Muslims dont have any problem in glorifying their country. Owaisi type opportunist mullahs are very less.

 

[jamahir]

If they have the right to express themselves ignoring the funtamental duty of not to create any divide in the society on religious lines.

but that is exactly what the bjp and the rest of the sangh has been doing, especially since 2014.

okay, let us all agree on refining the constitution by including clear articles against religious reactionaryism, traditional reactionaryism, capitalism, fascism and feudalism... surely anyone who wants the delivery of justice and freedom and relief from oppression to the indian masses will not object.