Mob blocks Dalits' entry into temple

[Spring Onion]

How many Indians were talking of Pk issues when Mumbai was under attack ?

Check the forum they were even poking their nose into our personal affairs anyway thats not again any criteria for not posting about a Human right issue.

Is it ?

Besides you tell me when someone dies do you die with him or her halting your day today normal routine?

 

[third eye]

Check the forum they were even poking their nose into our personal affairs anyway thats not again any criteria for not posting about a Human right issue.

Is it ?

Besides you tell me when someone dies do you die with him or her halting your day today normal routine?

Depends on how much you cared for the person...

In any case , I would wait a while to gather myself before I began routine hatred with my neighbors.

 

[arihant]

I heard that somewhere in India if a husband dies than people use to burn his wife also so that the husband's atma(Rooh, Soul etc) may get Shanti (Sukh,Chain Peace , Relive etc )...

No, this has been abolished several years ago. I don't remember any such incident heard by me in my life.

 

[arihant]

is not sharia that much **** similar to untouch.

 

[Spring Onion]

Depends on how much you cared for the person...

In any case , I would wait a while to gather myself before I began routine hatred with my neighbors.

This is a reality and not a routine hatred. And one should be able to multidimentional. Our country is faced with one of the most dangerouse terrorism in the world which even NATO, US failed to check, So we have to be strong enough to take on different fronts
Now coming back to the topic as i said the bellow is a reality not hatred by anyone against anyone of you.





After 60 yrs of Independence, untouchability alive and kicking in India
Shobha John, TNN 3 August 2009, 09:35am IST


More than 60 years after Independence, untouchability is alive and thriving in India’s hinterlands. Pockets of social change have been but mere
drops in an ocean of casteism and prejudice.

This was borne out in a survey by National Law School, Bangalore, which was reported recently. Following this, TOI correspondents did a reality check in eight states across India.

Dalits are still segregated with little access to temples, water sources and upper caste areas. And ironically, even in Radhanagar in Hooghly district, the birthplace of social reformer Raja Ram Mohan Roy, there are separate crematoria for Brahmins and non-Brahmins.

And in a bizarre case in Waganagere village in Gulbarga district of Karnataka, 120 Dalit households were forced to draw water from their well even after a dog fell in and died. During festivities, not only are they served food separately, but they have to bring their own plates and tumblers.

Gulbarga, incidentally, has 126 cases registered under the SC/ST Prevention of Atrocities Act 1989 and the Protection of Civil Rights Act 1955, the highest in Karnataka.

In UP, almost every village has a chamar toli, a place segregated for them. Dalit children are made to sit separately in schools.

In Malasa village in Kanpur Dehat, though the post of gram pradhan was reserved for scheduled castes, it has been lying vacant as no Dalit has the courage to contest the election, fearing backlash from the dominant Thakurs. And when they do, as two Dalits did last year, their candidature was rejected because no one, not even Dalits, seconded them during the filing of nomination papers. Uniquely in UP, untouchability is practised by Dalits too.

In Rajasthan’s Dholeria Shashan village near Pali, newcomers are interrogated and if they are scheduled castes, entry is tough. They also cannot pass upper caste houses wearing footwear or headgear, says poet and writer Vinod Vithall.

Segregation is also blighting the next generation. In Rajpur tehsil, 60 km from Kanpur, Thakurs withdrew their children from a primary school after a Dalit cook was employed to prepare mid-day meals.


D Shyam Babu, senior fellow, Rajiv Gandhi Foundation, says authorities often turn a blind eye to caste atrocities. Acts which protect the lower castes aren’t implemented either. The National Commission for Scheduled Castes in Chandigarh admitted that it receives 3-4 complaints daily. Ajmer district police reportedly has recorded 360 cases pertaining to SCs/STs over the last 18 months. In UP, over two dozen such cases were filed in the last six months.

But Dalits have now started asserting themselves. ‘‘In Tamil Nadu, upper castes are now at the receiving end after two decades of virulent clashes. In Punjab, thanks to the Green Revolution and prosperity, most Dalits have a good lifestyle,’’ says Balwinder Singh Sidhu, a government official, though there are pockets of discrimination.

Individuals have made a difference too. Tamil Nadu inspector general Pratheep V Philip has started a social justice tea party where the police provides tea to villagers and counsels them against discriminating Dalits. Two months back in Alwar, a Brahmin invited Dalits to his daughters wedding. In rural Bengal, says social scientist Amal Mukhopadhyay, inter-caste marriages too are taking place.

So will B R Ambedkar’s dream of an India where untouchables are not a sub-division of Hindus, but a separate and distinct element in the national life fructify?

(With inputs by Ashish Tripathi and Faiz Rehman Siddiqui, Lucknow; Ramaninder K Bhatia, Chandigarh; Deepender Deswal, Rohtak; Ajay Parmar and Kshitiz Gaur, Jaipur; Sanjeev Kumar Verma, Patna; Falguni Banerjee and Ashish Poddar in Kolkata; Prashanth G N, Bangalore and Radha Venkatesan, Chennai)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...icking-in-India/articleshow/4850136.cms]After 60 yrs of Independence, untouchability alive and kicking in India - India - The Times of India

 

[Spring Onion]

is not sharia that much **** similar to untouch.

Not at all besides open a new thread and i will reply you there on this.

For the time being be an honest person and do not justify cast system by derailing the thread.

Come on guys be little honest with yourself

 

[arihant]

Please highlight this too.

But Dalits have now started asserting themselves. ‘‘In Tamil Nadu, upper castes are now at the receiving end after two decades of virulent clashes. In Punjab, thanks to the Green Revolution and prosperity, most Dalits have a good lifestyle,’’ says Balwinder Singh Sidhu, a government official, though there are pockets of discrimination.

This system will stop in the next generation

 

[arihant]

Not at all besides open a new thread and i will reply you there on this.

For the time being be an honest person and do not justify cast system by derailing the thread.

Come on guys be little honest with yourself

we are not saying this is good. we all know it is bad. As this culture in deep of every people, only new generation like us can solve this problem. So you will need to wait atleast 40 years to see complete destruction of this.

Let me add, we are honest always and we accept this wrong culture.

 

[Spring Onion]

we are not saying this is good. we all know it is bad. As this culture in deep of every people, only new generation like us can solve this problem. So you will need to wait atleast 40 years to see complete destruction of this.

Let me add, we are honest always and we accept this wrong culture.

That is good and i wish if it happens. And it will only happen when educated like the members on forum instead of justifying the ills by bringing in other countries' or religions into this discussion as it is only shying away from real issue.

I seriously want to see Dalits equal to all other people. When the chief of Dalit Voice was here in Pakistan sometimes back few months back, i talked to him and it was sooo painful what Indian Government had done to him just because he was raising voice for cause and rights of Dalits

 

[arihant]

That is good and i wish if it happens. And it will only happen when educated like the members on forum instead of justifying the ills by bringing in other countries' or religions into this discussion as it is only shying away from real issue.

I seriously want to see Dalits equal to all other people. When the chief of Dalit Voice was here in Pakistan sometimes back few months back, i talked to him and it was sooo painful what Indian Government had done to him just because he was raising voice for cause and rights of Dalits

Seeing again you added twist to real fact. We apologies to world for giving such a bad gift of caste but we promise to solve it in the next generation by educating people.

You told about Indian Govt. Please refrain from telling those things. It's dalit (who are many) decide govt. They get reservation over us. They are provided around 50% and left 50% for us. Considering only few live in cities. reservation are basically in cities which put us behind. They get admission at 50% marks while we need around 80%. This is no way right that dalits are mistreated physically. They are just ignored mentally. They have more rights then us. They can decide whom to elect.

I don't what rights you talking. Govt. has now scheme for 100% employee irrespective of anything. They get every necessary food at a very subsidized rate (agree with corrupted shop keeper).

If they have problem, then it is because they are uneducated and cannot take their rights seriously. Everyone has problem and we should end debate here.

 

[Goodperson]

That is good and i wish if it happens. And it will only happen when educated like the members on forum instead of justifying the ills by bringing in other countries' or religions into this discussion as it is only shying away from real issue.

I seriously want to see Dalits equal to all other people. When the chief of Dalit Voice was here in Pakistan sometimes back few months back, i talked to him and it was sooo painful what Indian Government had done to him just because he was raising voice for cause and rights of Dalits

Are their any Dalits in your country?

What is the name of Chief of Dalits Voice?

Do you know its a huge crime for violence on Dalit ? If someone breaks law he gets punished, in Dalits case Police can keep the accused in Jail for 3 months based only on allegations.

Its like robbing is a crime still people break it. It does not mean the whole country is of robbers.

Then same can be applied to Kasab does it mean and whole Pxxxxx are terrorists?

Generalization is too bad.

 

[Spring Onion]

Are their any Dalits in your country?

we are talking about cast system based on your religion.

What is the name of Chief of Dalits Voice?

V.T. Rajshekar, he is editor of Dalit Voice. Few months back he was in Pakistan and we also interviewd him.

Do you know its a huge crime for violence on Dalit ? If someone breaks law he gets punished, in Dalits case Police can keep the accused in Jail for 3 months based only on allegations.

Its like robbing is a crime still people break it. It does not mean the whole country is of robbers.

Then same can be applied to Kasab does it mean and whole Pxxxxx are terrorists?

Generalization is too bad.

Generalization done on the basis of certain isolated things is unfair. In this case its a question of millions of Dalits and their discrimination at the hands of minority elite class and above all its based on the discriminatory division Hinduism have drawn.

This is not an isolated incident.

The laws indeed are there and appreciated but sans implementation these render useless.

The more disappointing thing is the mentality which still prevails and which is even decreasing the effectivness of laws.

 

[SSGPA1]

Have you seen the GHQ of a nation being attacked and hostages taken in any part of the world ?.

Yes and I have also seen the Parliament of a country attacked in broad day light and I have also seen the biggest city taken hostage for over a day by a bunch of terrorists.

Please don't derail the thread and speak against the apartheid of Dalits in india.

IMHO, there should be a strict implementation of laws in order to stop such incidents.

This is Hindu terrorism and culprits should be charged under POTA.

 

[humblehobbes]

we are talking about cast system based on your religion.



V.T. Rajshekar, he is editor of Dalit Voice. Few months back he was in Pakistan and we also interviewd him.






Generalization done on the basis of certain isolated things is unfair. In this case its a question of millions of Dalits and their discrimination at the hands of minority elite class and above all its based on the discriminatory division Hinduism have drawn.

This is not an isolated incident.

The laws indeed are there and appreciated but sans implementation these render useless.

The more disappointing thing is the mentality which still prevails and which is even decreasing the effectivness of laws.

now u know why i mentioned PAvlov's dogs in y'days post

 

[Spring Onion]

now u know why i mentioned PAvlov's dogs in y'days post

And you know you are again proving that the eye of an Ostrich is bigger than its brain (BTW its scientifically proven so dont get paranoid at me ) and it is understandable that why Ostrich try to stick its head in the sand