Mirage, F-7PG and other combat aircrafts

[fatman17]

interesting colour scheme!!!

 

[Windjammer]

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interesting colour scheme!!!

Painted in Polish national flag colours something like the sceme one of our F-6 was given on retirement.

 

[nangyale]

Painted in Polish national flag colours something like the sceme one of our F-6 was given on retirement.

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Not Polish but Croatian national colours, I think.

The emblem on the tail is Croatian

 

[ice_man]

beautiful jets & have rendered great Service to our nation.

However, time has come for them to retire and ride of into the setting Sun just like the F6s.

Paksitan MUST think beyond these two fighters now.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The Jets still carry or are capable of carrying sufficient variety of weapons , which makes them useful
in Air Combat

Only reasonable retirement talk would have to come once we induct 150 J10B or J11 Fighters into Pakistani airforce

F-7 is a very nimble agile platform as well , the agility and nimbleness adds to dynamics in air vs Larger bulkier jets

This appears to be a good answer by User "Strongpa" which appears in inner pages


F-7 PG is a very economical solution right now for PAF.

It is a greatly improved F-7, some say the best variant of Mig-21 ever.

Here is the impression of Air Cdr Kaiser Tufail after he evaluated F-7 PG

Pakistan Military Consortium :: www.PakDef.info


Evaluation showed that with respect to F-7P, F-7PG had a
35% imporvement in take-off distance
33% improvement in turn rate at 5000 feet
50% improvement in in turn rate at 10000 feet
66% improvement in turn rate at 20000 feet.
At least 25-33% reduction in the safe speed required for low speed loop...likely to be even better at lower altitudes.
In fact turn rate at med to high altitudes is close to F-16.
Lower speeds required for landing.
Glide ratio of 1:8.5 compares favorably with some modern fighters
50% improvement in spool up time
25% improvement in time for acceleration (500Km/h to 1100Km/h) and climb speed.

This article seems to agree that F-7PG's close combat capability is very close to that of F-16. In chinese simulations, it has also beaten SU-27 in close combat

F-7PG uses Grifo-7PG RADAR which has a little more range than the Grifo 7, plus some other technological advancements.

The F-7PG is capable of firing :

AIM-9P (Side Winders)
AIM-9L
PL-9C (Infra Red Homing Missiles)

PAF initially ordered 46 single seater and 9 trainers. They were so impressed with its capabilities that later they ordered another 11 single seaters

Airforce Representative talks about the modifications on the plane direct from source

 

[N/A]

Hi sorry to be a little off topic but my goal is to protect and serve Pakistan as a officer in the Pakistan air force as a GDP. Currently i live and study in the United States. I lived in the USA all my live, i am a Pakistani citizen. I am currently in high school, my grades are above average, my grades are 84-95 i take many advance classes. I am part of many sports teams and i am currently a class officer. After i graduate high school i will be getting my degree from a American College in Aerospace Engineering. After that what will i have to do to become a GDP as a officer in the Pakistan Air Force.

 

[nomi007]

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[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Never hurts to have few 100 F-7PG up in air with sidewinder and other homing missiles
Not to mention the new HUD display that aids in air combat

 

[nomi007]

 

[nomi007]

'Missing Man formation' led by F-7P of No.19 Sqn and F-16 aircraft marking end-of-service of F-7P aircraft in No.19 Sqn. The F-16 induction ceremony in the unit was held on 20-May-2014 at Mushaf AB, Sargodha.

 

[hassan1]

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[nomi007]

 

[Basel]

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[nomi007]

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[Shabi1]

Bangladesh is inducting a further improved version of the F-7BG designated as F-7BGI, specs for it are hard to find but according to wikipedia it has 7 hardpoints and BVR capability. Ive even read on a Bangla forum that it has CFT (highly doubtful).

These specs are very speculative and I have my doubts but if such performance upgrades are possible I think PAF should consider since the F-7PG air frames are relatively new and will remain in service for a while. It might be dated but can serve as as good interceptor/point defense platform.

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• F-7BG 16 was delivered to Bangladesh in 2006 including with 4 two-seater FT-7BG. The capability to carry reconnaissance pods and operate the equipment inside the pods from the cockpit of earlier F-7MB is retained. Reported to use Grifo MG radar.[4]

• F-7BG1 Upgraded version for Bangladesh Air Force ordered in 2011. Based on J-7G, guided munition capable.

1) F-7 BGI has a speed of Mach 2.2 2) 7 Hard-points to carry Air to Air missiles, Laser guided bomb, GPS Guided Bombs, Drop tanks 3) Full glass cockpit. 4) can carry 3000 kg Bomb including Chinese Laser Guided Bombs. 5) F-7 BGI has KLJ-6F radar Fire control Radar with 86 km+ Range which is near BVR or BVR considering what is the silver lining between them and can track 6 and engage 2 enemy aircraft simultaneously. 6) F-7 BGI can carry C-704 Antiship Missiles (Therefore maritime also possible) 7) afterburner: F-7 BGI (82 kN) thrust 8) Missiles procurement are currently unknown for F-7 BGI but they can fire the 70-75 km range PL-12,PL-11 and also PL-2, PL-5, PL-7, PL-8, PL-9, Magic R.550 and AIM-9 . 9) F-7 BGI got J-7G2 Airframe with double delta wing. This improves the lift at high angles of attack and delays or prevents stalling. 10) G-limit: +8 g / -3 g 11) Service ceiling: 17,500 m (57,420 ft) for F-7 BGI 12) 3 Multi functional HUD displays and Hotas. 13) Chinese Helmet Mounted Sights. 14) Reportedly more maneuverable than most of the Mig21s and many of the other contemporary fighters.