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Militants getting weapons form Afghanistan: IG FC - GEO.tv
ISLAMABAD: Inspector General Frontier Corps NWFP Maj. Gen. Tariq Khan has said that militants in SWAT and tribal areas were getting arms and financial assistance from Afghanistan.

He told the Senate Committee for Defence that foreign hand was involved in worsening situation in Swat, FATA and other tribal areas.

Khan said the government has approved induction of 7000 men into FC, as well as the pay scale has been brought upto that of Army scale, in order to fight militants and terrorism in the affected area.

He said miscreants from Afghanistan, in connivance with local militants, were attacking forces in Pakistan. Media’s role to that regard was not appreciable, he said.
 
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"Maj. Gen. Tariq Khan has said that militants in SWAT and tribal areas were getting arms and financial assistance from Afghanistan."

Money, yeah, in the form of dope. I don't know about weapons unless they're coming in from Tajikistan or Iran, through Afghanistan, and into Pakistan. That seems terribly convoluted and would make little sense.

Personally, I think you've buyers in the gulf states that are shipping weapons through Karachi and then trucked north to FATA, maybe in the same convoys as NATO supplies before turning off.
 
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ISLAMABAD: Inspector General Frontier Corps NWFP Maj. Gen. Tariq Khan has said that militants in SWAT and tribal areas were getting arms and financial assistance from Afghanistan.

Pakistan Must Protect its Frontiers on its Own, He have to Increase our Security measures so that No terrorists and Weapons are Poured into our Country.

For Example,If i see a risk that my house is gonna be robbed i will increase the height of my Walls and i will put Wire on top of the walls with Electric current, I will make sure that My gate is Strong and Locked at night, I will keep a dog as well and I will always Keep a Loaded Shotgun under my Bed. BUT I will not ask the Robbers Not to Rob my home, SO If you are asking Afghanistan to do something you are wrong, they are not Responsible for our Security they have their own issues and troubles at home.

We have to Defend our Country on our own.
 
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Personally, I think you've buyers in the gulf states that are shipping weapons through Karachi and then trucked north to FATA, maybe in the same convoys as NATO supplies before turning off.

Now that, is even more unlikely in my opinion. Afghanistan has tones of equipment lying around in the form of militia arsenals, arms caches and many of these war/drug lords keep importing. Furthermore there were reports including one on BBC where it was claimed that Taliban are getting weapons from Iran, Pakistan and from the north directly or from police/ANA units willing to sell. They even explained why elements in the NA and Iran prefer to sell weapons to Taliban. But weapons getting shipped in from Karachi's official lanes to Pakistan's own Taliban and beyond, now that is impossible without establishment support, allegations of which I consider BS.
 
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"Maj. Gen. Tariq Khan has said that militants in SWAT and tribal areas were getting arms and financial assistance from Afghanistan."

What about Stole American Equipment like Humvees and Javelin. Taliban know how to get their weapons and sometimes they stole it even from Americans.
 
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Well of course you would. Any self-respecting Pakistani will point fingers at everybody but themselves. See, Afghanistan is an arsenal but FATA...naw.

ANA/ANP are immensely corrupt but PAKISTANI customs and other officials are neither corruptable nor might they have any sympathies to such an ideology. No, easier to leach weapons here and there from this unit and that rather than bring supplies in coherantly with some economies of scale through reasonably reliable sources that can deliver with absolute consistency and scale.

Whatever Kasrkin.

We know the unprecedented effort that it took to supply the mujahideen during the Afghan-Soviet war. We know the channels existed then. We know that the taliban have supplied themselves as a government between 1996-2001. We know the channels existed then. But you're here to tell me that insurgencies fought in TWO nations are supplied by some tajiks in the north and ANA units.

Karachi is the obvious port of entry to receive large shipments that are easily transported to where they are most needed- in the south and east of Afghanistan.
 
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What about Stole American Equipment like Humvees and Javelin. Taliban know how to get their weapons and sometimes they stole it even from Americans.

That is a very small ratio of weapons. The common afghani tries to single out any american or nato troop and try to kill him for the sake of equipment. That equipment is later sold to the taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These free lancer talibs are very common in those regions.
 
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That is a very small ratio of weapons. The common afghani tries to single out any american or nato troop and try to kill him for the sake of equipment. That equipment is later sold to the taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. These free lancer talibs are very common in those regions.

exactly but Taliban need UAVs.
 
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exactly but Taliban need UAVs.

What are they going to do with UAV's? Lol, the control center from where they are operated are in the middle of a fortified garrison. Besides, who'd teach them the basics?

I don't think the talibs would get a hold of this any time soon :P

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What are they going to do with UAV's? Lol, the control center from where they are operated are in the middle of a fortified garrison. Besides, who'd teach them the basics?

I don't think the talibs would get a hold of this any time soon :P

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that sucks but we should armed with the Ak-47s and kevlars what a brave fighters.Yestarday they killed 18 soliders and left 26 badly injured quickly US army emptied the base hahah

-soruce AAJ.TV
 
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that sucks but we should armed with the Ak-47s and kevlars what a brave fighters.Yestarday they killed 18 soliders and left 26 badly injured quickly US army emptied the base hahah

-soruce AAJ.TV

A common Taliban sometimes carry the same weapons as their enemies. Kevlars, grenades, New assault rifles, even NIGHT VISION at times is available to them because of the running network of free lancing "Robbers". But it doesn't matter what you provide a guerilla fighter with, if the battles on his home ground, he'll use every inch of his land and knowledge to defeat the enemy.

Which is pretty much the same with Afghanistan.
 
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"Yestarday they killed 18 soliders and left 26 badly injured quickly US army emptied the base hahah"

Can you provide a link to the article? I checked AAJ.TV and found nothing specific on their site but I may have overlooked the article.

Thank you.
 
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Any self-respecting Pakistani will point fingers at everybody but themselves. See, Afghanistan is an arsenal but FATA...naw.

There is no need to be so naive S-2, and turn this nasty. I could say the exact same think about you ignoring the completely dysfunctional state of affairs Afghanistan is in. At every level, rampant and systematic corruption; more like lack of governance as opposed to ‘mis-governance’. NATO itself has said that much. But when our FC IG says now it’s coming from the other side then you still insist he is BS-ing?

Ofcourse Pakistan has problems, but to insist on such a stark country-wide polarization within the establishment is pushing it even for your imagination. FATA is a hard nut to crack and always has been, but FATA infrastructure is not capable of producing the quality or quantity of weapons both our enemies have access to. And your Karachi claim is completely retarded, bribing a gang of custom officials to ignore a container or two is not the same as channeling weapons sustaining a large scale insurgency that’s been raging for the better part of a decade, without intelligence or military authorities intercepting. In case you didn't notice, my observations weren't as sweeping as yours. You give me your view, I give you mine and we talk about it in a grown up mutually respectable way. Why cant you do that?

Why do you insist on being so bitter? Why do you insist on accusing us of being capable of such monstrous incompetence and/or subterfuge?

Whatever S-2, I wonder why you insist on acting like a kid.:disagree:
 
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"There is no need to be so naive S-2, and turn this nasty."

Neither is the case. There is no ignoring Afghanistan's dysfunctional state. Neither, though, should I ignore similar conditions elsewhere. Unlike Afghanistan, though, Pakistan has a major port.

Weapons acquisition will come from any and every source possible and to whom these weapons go depends upon the organization. Ali Baba and his forty thieves will take, steal, murder, and buy from whomever.

Jalaluddin and Sirajuddin Haqqani have a massive and old network that might have more extensive supply requirements. So too Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. Both operate extensively along your FATA border. It makes little sense to suspect these men depend upon irregular supplies that will travel to them via the local ANA or ANP post. Equally, however accessible Russian arms are in Tajikstan, to suggest that they are purchased there, brought into Afghanistan and then transported through your eastern borders in scale capable of meeting and sustaining the arms needs of just these two prominent irhabists doesn't match the road networks nor the security risks when other options might be available.

This, of course, doesn't even suggest that the ISI has retained links to certain elements deemed indispensible to their long-term objectives.

"...bribing a gang of custom officials to ignore a container or two is not the same as channeling weapons sustaining a large scale insurgency that’s been raging for the better part of a decade"

That's EXACTLY how it's done. You play on an official's greed and he is TURNED. The more greed, the more TURNED. Once TURNED, there's no going back as you've a chance to be killed by either side, arrested, job loss, etc. Once in, there's no going back.

To suggest a gang of customs officials have been turned is all you need to extrapolate the implications for each. They'll henceforth roll every damn time. They've little choice.

I'm not off nor am I nasty. It's the toughest job in the world to handle port or border customs. We are CONSTANTLY looking for exactly the same criminal leverage amidst our own officials along the Mexican border or our ports. Drugs don't reach America entirely by virtue of Mexican "mules" in 1978 Plymouths driving north.

Neither do weapons in Pakistan. Not on any economy of scale necessary to fuel two insurgencies. I've no proof. None. No article. Nada so I won't follow-up with my speculation but I hardly believe it to be naive or uninformed and is certainly worthy of serious consideration if truly interested in determining where weapons arrive from and to where they are ultimately destined.
 
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Reading your posts S2 no offense but you seem highly critical and biased towards Pakistan do you really think that Pakistan is so stupid to use its own weapons to arm the Taliban to kill Pakistani civilians can you please tell me how good are the Americans doing a job in Afghanistan they have technologically the most advanced equipment and yet they have failed to achieve anything in Afghanistan for the last 8 years.

You seem to be ignorant to take any consideration that the weapons are coming from Afghanistan to arm these Talibs and they are paid more money than a regular Pakistani soldier, the opium produced in Afghanistan is an all time high.
 
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